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Post by Cyno on Dec 13, 2023 14:45:28 GMT -5
Assuming I’m not completely burnt out after finishing Valhalla, I was definitely thinking of going back and playing one of the older games. Pretty sure I have the entire mainline series on my XB1 According to my end-of-year recap, I put in 283 hours on Odyssey this year, 183 hours on AC3 Remastered, and 151 hours on Black Flag. I'm definitely AC'd out for 2023, but I thoroughly enjoyed all three games. AC3 needs a reappraisal, I think it's pretty underrated. I'm pretty impressed you put in that much time in AC3 Remastered. I got it for free with Odyssey and I deleted it (even though I never played the King Washington DLC) because of how much of a buggy mess the thing was.
The game itself is fine and I love that my corner of New Jersey is actually represented on the Frontier world map. They did a great job of nailing the Colonial-era architecture and aesthetic of the Northeast US wilderness, too. But Connor definitely suffered from being a more stoic character sandwiched between the much more dynamic Ezio and Edward. Some of the missions are just dreadful, too, with ridiculously narrow fail conditions. Especially with the optional objectives. And after how awful the Paul Revere mission was, I'm glad the series never did another "follow vague directions" mission again. Unless there was one later on and my memory blocked it out.
Though I also think it has the best "Build up your home base" content in the entire series. Turning the Davenport Homestead from a couple of houses in the wilderness to an outright village was really neat, along with the interactions with the other settlers.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Dec 13, 2023 15:03:03 GMT -5
Anyone try the VR game yet?
Thinking about upgrading from a Quest 2 to a Quest 3, and eyeing that game as a purchase.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 13, 2023 15:37:39 GMT -5
I'm pretty impressed you put in that much time in AC3 Remastered. I got it for free with Odyssey and I deleted it (even though I never played the King Washington DLC) because of how much of a buggy mess the thing was.
The game itself is fine and I love that my corner of New Jersey is actually represented on the Frontier world map. They did a great job of nailing the Colonial-era architecture and aesthetic of the Northeast US wilderness, too. But Connor definitely suffered from being a more stoic character sandwiched between the much more dynamic Ezio and Edward. Some of the missions are just dreadful, too, with ridiculously narrow fail conditions. Especially with the optional objectives. And after how awful the Paul Revere mission was, I'm glad the series never did another "follow vague directions" mission again. Unless there was one later on and my memory blocked it out. Though I also think it has the best "Build up your home base" content in the entire series. Turning the Davenport Homestead from a couple of houses in the wilderness to an outright village was really neat, along with the interactions with the other settlers.
It's weird, I hear a lot about the bugs in AC3R, but only ever experienced a single one – the Boston background music continued playing even after travelling to other locations until I rebooted the game. There's a few terrible missions, but they're kinda the hallmark of the earlier AC games. Black Flag had an abundance of "follow and eavesdrop" missions that absolutely drove me nuts. The homestead-building aspect was probably my favourite part of the game. I'd quite happily play a game set in the AC universe which was almost entirely building a community from scratch and occasionally going out and assassinating a target.
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Post by Cyno on Dec 13, 2023 15:58:38 GMT -5
I'm pretty impressed you put in that much time in AC3 Remastered. I got it for free with Odyssey and I deleted it (even though I never played the King Washington DLC) because of how much of a buggy mess the thing was.
The game itself is fine and I love that my corner of New Jersey is actually represented on the Frontier world map. They did a great job of nailing the Colonial-era architecture and aesthetic of the Northeast US wilderness, too. But Connor definitely suffered from being a more stoic character sandwiched between the much more dynamic Ezio and Edward. Some of the missions are just dreadful, too, with ridiculously narrow fail conditions. Especially with the optional objectives. And after how awful the Paul Revere mission was, I'm glad the series never did another "follow vague directions" mission again. Unless there was one later on and my memory blocked it out. Though I also think it has the best "Build up your home base" content in the entire series. Turning the Davenport Homestead from a couple of houses in the wilderness to an outright village was really neat, along with the interactions with the other settlers.
It's weird, I hear a lot about the bugs in AC3R, but only ever experienced a single one – the Boston background music continued playing even after travelling to other locations until I rebooted the game. There's a few terrible missions, but they're kinda the hallmark of the earlier AC games. Black Flag had an abundance of "follow and eavesdrop" missions that absolutely drove me nuts. The homestead-building aspect was probably my favourite part of the game. I'd quite happily play a game set in the AC universe which was almost entirely building a community from scratch and occasionally going out and assassinating a target. I want another game like Rogue where you play as a Templar. That was really interesting to me since we saw their side of things.
Hell, the AC comics introduced the concept of the Black Cross: Assassin-like inquisitors who kill corrupt high-ranking Templars that put their own self-interests ahead of the Order's goals. Playing as one could be a ton of fun.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Dec 17, 2023 14:53:27 GMT -5
Oh god, I was nowhere near as far into the game as I thought. This f***ing game just doesn't end, and I basically haven't even touched Asgard.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 13, 2024 17:19:26 GMT -5
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Post by Cyno on May 13, 2024 17:34:02 GMT -5
That is in front of the Tsutenkaku Tower in the Shinsekai neighborhood in Osaka. Anyone who's played Persona 5 Strikers or Yakuza 2 should recognize it.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 15, 2024 12:50:57 GMT -5
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Post by Cyno on May 15, 2024 13:26:17 GMT -5
The racists are already whining about Yasuke lol.
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Post by xCompackx on May 15, 2024 17:01:32 GMT -5
I think it's pretty cool having two separate characters with different playstyles. Barring any Ubisoft stupidity, I'll definitely give Shadows a playthrough.
That said, can we get to the f***ing point with the current day/Isu stuff? Valhalla made... more progress, but if we're going to have it, it'd be cool to like, get to something.
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Post by Cyno on May 15, 2024 17:59:38 GMT -5
Another thing with this trailer, and this is a pretty sad commentary on Ubisoft's sexist corporate culture, but I think this is the first game in the series where the cinematic reveal trailer featured a female protagonist. IIRC, Syndicate's ONLY had Jacob. And AC Odyssey and Valhalla exclusively featured Alexios and Male Eivor despite the canon heroes of both games being Kassandra and female Eivor.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 15, 2024 18:14:04 GMT -5
That said, can we get to the f***ing point with the current day/Isu stuff? Valhalla made... more progress, but if we're going to have it, it'd be cool to like, get to something. Honestly, I'd be all in favour if they just nixed that entire part of the plot and just made it a series of unconnected games about Assassins and Templars influencing historical events.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 15, 2024 22:47:33 GMT -5
The racists are already whining about Yasuke lol. They're exhausting. Here's an exchange I had: Them: The real Yasuke wasn't a Samurai. Me: It's far from the first time the AC games have taken liberties with historical figures to suit a narrative purpose. Them: But there's a difference between taking liberties and outright lying. Me: Fine, I shall rephrase: It's far from the first time the AC games have outright lied about historical figures to suit a narrative purpose. AC2 and Brotherhood portrayed the Borgia as an incestuous Renaissance mafia who ran Rome into the ground and were despised by all, when in reality they were quite well-liked by the public, philanthropic, began the restoration of Rome, and were only really despised by the aristocracy, whose writings form most of the basis for history's depictions of the Borgia. Them: It's called embellishment. It's not like they've changed people's titles or jobs before. Why couldn't they have used a real Japanese historical figure? I bet you more people would rather play as Miyamoto Musashi than Yasuke. Me: I'll bet you even more people won't give a shit either way, and don't have any idea who Miyamoto Musashi or Yasuke were. I'll bet before today you didn't either. Ultimately, what does it matter if Yasuke's real life rank and title, which are disputed, don't match in a game series where the events of history are a proxy war fought by digital ghosts of a prehuman civilisation? Them: *blocked*
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on May 16, 2024 0:25:33 GMT -5
The racists are already whining about Yasuke lol. They're exhausting. Here's an exchange I had: Them: The real Yasuke wasn't a Samurai. Me: It's far from the first time the AC games have taken liberties with historical figures to suit a narrative purpose. Them: But there's a difference between taking liberties and outright lying. Me: Fine, I shall rephrase: It's far from the first time the AC games have outright lied about historical figures to suit a narrative purpose. AC2 and Brotherhood portrayed the Borgia as an incestuous Renaissance mafia who ran Rome into the ground and were despised by all, when in reality they were quite well-liked by the public, philanthropic, began the restoration of Rome, and were only really despised by the aristocracy, whose writings form most of the basis for history's depictions of the Borgia. Them: It's called embellishment. It's not like they've changed people's titles or jobs before. Why couldn't they have used a real Japanese historical figure? I bet you more people would rather play as Miyamoto Musashi than Yasuke. Me: I'll bet you even more people won't give a shit either way, and don't have any idea who Miyamoto Musashi or Yasuke were. I'll bet before today you didn't either. Ultimately, what does it matter if Yasuke's real life rank and title, which are disputed, don't match in a game series where the events of history are a proxy war fought by digital ghosts of a prehuman civilisation? Them: *blocked*I love how all of them are trotting out the, "Yasuke was a retainer!" bit. And yes, he was a retainer. So were literally all the other samurai who weren't a lord during the Sengoku Jidai. The lords *retained* the services of their samurai so they had a ready standing army at all times. They conscripted the rank and file foot soldiers from the peasantry when it came time for big proper campaigns. You also see these idiots try to use Yasuke's claimed role as Nobunaga's sword bearer to downplay his importance. That actually means he was even more important than they realize. A samurai lord wasn't going to entrust just any Tom, Dick, or Harry to handle his swords. Plus Yasuke's relative lack of records(he's only documented for like 3 years in Japanese historical records) is actually a plus in this situation because it means they can go buck wild in typical Assassin's Creed fashion and have even more plausible deniability about it than normal.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on May 16, 2024 0:37:15 GMT -5
Barring any Ubisoft stupidity Look forward to confirmation of the rumor going around about the game having a battle pass then, I guess.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 16, 2024 1:11:53 GMT -5
I love how all of them are trotting out the, "Yasuke was a retainer!" bit. And yes, he was a retainer. So were literally all the other samurai who weren't a lord during the Sengoku Jidai. The lords *retained* the services of their samurai so they had a ready standing army at all times. They conscripted the rank and file foot soldiers from the peasantry when it came time for big proper campaigns. You also see these idiots try to use Yasuke's claimed role as Nobunaga's sword bearer to downplay his importance. That actually means he was even more important than they realize. A samurai lord wasn't going to entrust just any Tom, Dick, or Harry to handle his swords. And, for what it's worth, most Japanese texts consider Yasuke a samurai. If these bozos had stuck automatically sided with the Japanese gamers who are angry that the first – and probably only – Japanese-set AC game lacks a male Japanese protagonist, which is a grievance I can empathise with, I'd be more convinced by their sincerity. As it is I suspect the same people bitching about this also bitched about the canon protagonists of the last two mainline games being female and Alexios in Odyssey being bisexual.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on May 16, 2024 2:06:52 GMT -5
OK cool. Assassin's Creed seem to be a summer spectacle for me last couple of years.
Just picked up Mirage and will pick up the new one for next summer.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on May 16, 2024 6:30:47 GMT -5
I think it's pretty cool having two separate characters with different playstyles. Barring any Ubisoft stupidity, I'll definitely give Shadows a playthrough. That said, can we get to the f***ing point with the current day/Isu stuff? Valhalla made... more progress, but if we're going to have it, it'd be cool to like, get to something. Hopefully the two protagonists thing is implemented better than it was in Syndicate. Preferred to use Evie, she was better at stealth and faster, but so much of the story locked you in as Jacob.
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Post by Cyno on May 16, 2024 8:19:32 GMT -5
They're exhausting. Here's an exchange I had: Them: The real Yasuke wasn't a Samurai. Me: It's far from the first time the AC games have taken liberties with historical figures to suit a narrative purpose. Them: But there's a difference between taking liberties and outright lying. Me: Fine, I shall rephrase: It's far from the first time the AC games have outright lied about historical figures to suit a narrative purpose. AC2 and Brotherhood portrayed the Borgia as an incestuous Renaissance mafia who ran Rome into the ground and were despised by all, when in reality they were quite well-liked by the public, philanthropic, began the restoration of Rome, and were only really despised by the aristocracy, whose writings form most of the basis for history's depictions of the Borgia. Them: It's called embellishment. It's not like they've changed people's titles or jobs before. Why couldn't they have used a real Japanese historical figure? I bet you more people would rather play as Miyamoto Musashi than Yasuke. Me: I'll bet you even more people won't give a shit either way, and don't have any idea who Miyamoto Musashi or Yasuke were. I'll bet before today you didn't either. Ultimately, what does it matter if Yasuke's real life rank and title, which are disputed, don't match in a game series where the events of history are a proxy war fought by digital ghosts of a prehuman civilisation? Them: *blocked*I love how all of them are trotting out the, "Yasuke was a retainer!" bit. And yes, he was a retainer. So were literally all the other samurai who weren't a lord during the Sengoku Jidai. The lords *retained* the services of their samurai so they had a ready standing army at all times. They conscripted the rank and file foot soldiers from the peasantry when it came time for big proper campaigns. You also see these idiots try to use Yasuke's claimed role as Nobunaga's sword bearer to downplay his importance. That actually means he was even more important than they realize. A samurai lord wasn't going to entrust just any Tom, Dick, or Harry to handle his swords. Plus Yasuke's relative lack of records(he's only documented for like 3 years in Japanese historical records) is actually a plus in this situation because it means they can go buck wild in typical Assassin's Creed fashion and have even more plausible deniability about it than normal. It's funny how little these schmucks understand what a retainer actually was in most feudal societies.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on May 16, 2024 12:23:58 GMT -5
I cannot wait for this!!!
Sprawling open world action/RPG AC might be my favorite games out there.
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