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Post by neilc on Dec 3, 2022 17:27:33 GMT -5
I really don't understand AEW's obsession with really bad factions. You add the Firm to the Factory, Trustbusters, Wingmen and maybe one or two I'm forgetting and that's a lot of cannon fodder for one company.
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Post by Peeetah on Dec 3, 2022 18:00:04 GMT -5
I really don't understand AEW's obsession with really bad factions. You add the Firm to the Factory, Trustbusters, Wingmen and maybe one or two I'm forgetting and that's a lot of cannon fodder for one company. Don't you dare compare the Wingmen to that rabble.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 3, 2022 18:13:46 GMT -5
I get that the All Out stuff effected the plans but I still cannot help but think that the awful initial promo also changed things.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Dec 3, 2022 18:35:21 GMT -5
I really don't understand AEW's obsession with really bad factions. You add the Firm to the Factory, Trustbusters, Wingmen and maybe one or two I'm forgetting and that's a lot of cannon fodder for one company. It's the only way to give people something to do, with such a bloated roster. For someone like Lee Moriarty, it's either get put into a faction, be relegated to Dark, or get chosen by someone like Jericho or Danielson to feud with. (Christ, even Stokely only had an important role because he was handpicked by a star wrestler who could make choices over his own angles. That seriously is legitimately the only way a person can possibly be elevated in AEW.) I honestly wish they did this more with the face side too, and they went full Dragon Gate with it. Then the star leaders of each stable could at least look after their own guys.
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Post by CeilingFan on Dec 3, 2022 19:35:40 GMT -5
I really don't understand AEW's obsession with really bad factions. You add the Firm to the Factory, Trustbusters, Wingmen and maybe one or two I'm forgetting and that's a lot of cannon fodder for one company. Trustbusters will rule ROH!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2023 20:35:08 GMT -5
You know your group is dead when Butcher and Blade are effectively members.
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Post by Wieners=$$$ on Feb 21, 2023 22:15:09 GMT -5
Stokely's cred sunk real fast.
When you had the Ass Boys as your clients, and they dumped you, only to then go on to become tag champs...
Did Big Bill ruin the Tensai gimmick, er Firm?
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Post by Fade on Feb 21, 2023 22:23:22 GMT -5
The hell happened to this stable?? Lol where’s Big Ass been? Dark, elevation?
Edit: just saw he and moriarty are on action on Dynamite.
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Post by coleslaw on Feb 21, 2023 22:35:18 GMT -5
The hell happened to this stable?? Lol where’s Big Ass been? Dark, elevation? Edit: just saw he and moriarty are on action on Dynamite. Dude....The Ass Boys bringing out Morrisey as "Big Ass" has to be the biggest missed opportunity of all time
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 21, 2023 22:38:12 GMT -5
Stokely's cred sunk real fast. When you had the Ass Boys as your clients, and they dumped you, only to then go on to become tag champs... Did Big Bill ruin the Tensai gimmick, er Firm? They didn't leave The Firm, they actually asked Big Bill and Lee to soften up Acclaimed on Dynamite this week
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Post by Wieners=$$$ on Feb 21, 2023 22:41:42 GMT -5
The hell happened to this stable?? Lol where’s Big Ass been? Dark, elevation? Edit: just saw he and moriarty are on action on Dynamite. Dude....The Ass Boys bringing out Morrisey as "Big Ass" has to be the biggest missed opportunity of all time All for the memeception. Billy "Daddy Ass" Gunn v. Big "Bill" Ass is money left on the floor. Now you've got me wondering if the Acclaimed use Billy's past connections to bring in Rikishi to neutralize the Ass Boys🤔
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Post by The Trashman on Feb 21, 2023 22:46:46 GMT -5
The group just always seemed so random and without MJF as the centerpiece they have no reason to exist
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 21, 2023 22:52:05 GMT -5
The group just always seemed so random and without MJF as the centerpiece they have no reason to exist This groups gonna be one of the bigger What Ifs of the last few years, because they clearly were supposed to be involved in the Punk/MJF storyline, which was gonna be a whole different storyline than MJF/Mox turned into, and their involvement just kinda... never clicked I like the idea of them and they aren't a lost cause to me right now, but they were gonna be involved heavily in the main event, and Scrumgate curtailed everything. We might not know all the storylines and wrestlers that whole event impacted, but the answer is definitely a lot...
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Post by Ash Kingston on Feb 21, 2023 23:00:18 GMT -5
The hell happened to this stable?? Lol where’s Big Ass been? Dark, elevation? Edit: just saw he and moriarty are on action on Dynamite. Yeah, the best way to get guys who seemingly haven't been on TV in a while to appear on Dynamite is to consider asking what the hell happened to them.
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Post by Fade on Feb 22, 2023 3:37:34 GMT -5
The hell happened to this stable?? Lol where’s Big Ass been? Dark, elevation? Edit: just saw he and moriarty are on action on Dynamite. Yeah, the best way to get guys who seemingly haven't been on TV in a while to appear on Dynamite is to consider asking what the hell happened to them. AY WHAT DUH HALE HAPPENED TO MIRO
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Feb 22, 2023 7:26:56 GMT -5
Yeah, the best way to get guys who seemingly haven't been on TV in a while to appear on Dynamite is to consider asking what the hell happened to them. AY WHAT DUH HALE HAPPENED TO MIRO Disclaimer: with the exception of Miro.
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Post by SneakMan on Feb 22, 2023 7:42:49 GMT -5
AY WHAT DUH HALE HAPPENED TO MIRO TK: Okay so Miro, I just saw this post on FAN and was thinking we'll have you return on Elevation- Miro: That doesn't work for me, братле
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Feb 22, 2023 13:27:48 GMT -5
The hell happened to this stable?? Lol where’s Big Ass been? Dark, elevation? Edit: just saw he and moriarty are on action on Dynamite. The entire reason Stokely ever got a big faction was because Punk handpicked him (and presumably at least some of the members) specifically to feud with. Because that's how AEW works: the only way to get elevated is to be chosen by a star who can book their own angles. Once Punk was gone, they just aborted the whole thing despite already having set up the connection to MJF. Yes, it needlessly made everyone involved look stupid, and it was bewildering TV, and MJF can only benefit with goons. But they couldn't ignore that old famous AEW booking maxim: Never have a member of the roster doing something when you can have them doing absolutely nothing. And I can't decide if Moriarty/Bill are an intriguing team or a nonsensical one. Or both? Maybe both.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 22, 2023 18:35:04 GMT -5
The hell happened to this stable?? Lol where’s Big Ass been? Dark, elevation? Edit: just saw he and moriarty are on action on Dynamite. The entire reason Stokely ever got a big faction was because Punk handpicked him (and presumably at least some of the members) specifically to feud with. Because that's how AEW works: the only way to get elevated is to be chosen by a star who can book their own angles. Once Punk was gone, they just aborted the whole thing despite already having set up the connection to MJF. Yes, it needlessly made everyone involved look stupid, and it was bewildering TV, and MJF can only benefit with goons. But they couldn't ignore that old famous AEW booking maxim: Never have a member of the roster doing something when you can have them doing absolutely nothing. And I can't decide if Moriarty/Bill are an intriguing team or a nonsensical one. Or both? Maybe both. Thing is they haven't been doing "Nothing", they've had numerous feuds going on, just not in the main event. Page/Hardy/Kassidy is highly entertaining on both Elevation and Rampage, Moriarty and Bill feuded with HOOK on TV and Moriarty got a AAC match with Cassidy in a Rampage main event, and The Gunns became tag champs on Dynamite The stable hasn't been the worldbeaters or gigantic threat they were likely going to be with Punk, but you're acting like because the Punk angle fell through, these guys haven't been given consistent TV and angle time... and I gotta tell ya, that's simply not true, even post-MJF.\ Moriarty and Bill are really fun together btw, they have a strange chemistry that works, seen a few of their Elevation matches together
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Post by markymark on Mar 22, 2023 23:43:41 GMT -5
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