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Post by Rhody Codes on Oct 1, 2022 8:36:25 GMT -5
City of Woe is a reference to Dante’s Inferno, but I can’t remember and I’m not going to go read it to see what exactly the context is. Likely just some spooky pseudo-Devil stuff “Abandon all hope ye who enter here” is the last line of the poem, which appeared on the Firefly Funhouse segments on a sign.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Oct 1, 2022 8:50:23 GMT -5
So if this is Bray (and it seems likely) who is he coming back for?
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Post by Hurbster on Oct 1, 2022 10:03:12 GMT -5
Azazel reborn...Loremaster?
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Post by Pooh Carlson on Oct 1, 2022 11:07:02 GMT -5
I was thinking it could make sense that he attacks Riddle as his return feud since he's closely associated with Orton. Or he could attack Edge, since there's a lantern and fireflies in the background of the Edge/Finn graphic.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Oct 1, 2022 11:36:08 GMT -5
So if this is Bray (and it seems likely) who is he coming back for? I'm hoping he returns as a face (or at least evil guy who people cheer so he ends up mostly fighting heels) so I'd have his first target be either Kross or Judgment Day. I think the worst possible choice would be Roman. He isn't losing the title so any match they have would have to have some bullshit ending. We don't need another HIAC 2019.
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Post by Kay Faban on Oct 1, 2022 11:39:42 GMT -5
Finding a way for his matches not to suck will be the real test.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 1, 2022 11:51:25 GMT -5
I was thinking it could make sense that he attacks Riddle as his return feud since he's closely associated with Orton. Or he could attack Edge, since there's a lantern and fireflies in the background of the Edge/Finn graphic. That's also there in the Seth / Riddle graphic. I think they're just reusing assets from the Horror Show at Extreme Rules graphics.
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Post by Fade on Oct 1, 2022 12:22:05 GMT -5
Finding a way for his matches not to suck will be the real test. I really hope he’s not coming back as “The Fiend”. Because I think that played a huge factor in the disappointing matches. I hope “White Rabbit” is some new persona that isn’t as indestructible.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Oct 1, 2022 12:26:28 GMT -5
Finding a way for his matches not to suck will be the real test. I really hope he’s not coming back as “The Fiend”. Because I think that played a huge factor in the disappointing matches. I hope “White Rabbit” is some new persona that isn’t as indestructible. The problem wasn't really hte fiend itself... it was using the fiend all the time. it's a character that works as like a seasonal thing... and I get still wanting to use Bray more oftne since he was popular but again the answer to that is have Firefly Bray wrestle differently.
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Post by Fade on Oct 1, 2022 12:32:20 GMT -5
I really hope he’s not coming back as “The Fiend”. Because I think that played a huge factor in the disappointing matches. I hope “White Rabbit” is some new persona that isn’t as indestructible. The problem wasn't really hte fiend itself... it was using the fiend all the time. it's a character that works as like a seasonal thing... and I get still wanting to use Bray more oftne since he was popular but again the answer to that is have Firefly Bray wrestle differently. Yeah, I wouldn’t mind “The Fiend” occasionally pop up ala Balor’s Demon, minus sucking.
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Post by Rhody Codes on Oct 1, 2022 12:42:15 GMT -5
I really hope he’s not coming back as “The Fiend”. Because I think that played a huge factor in the disappointing matches. I hope “White Rabbit” is some new persona that isn’t as indestructible. The problem wasn't really hte fiend itself... it was using the fiend all the time. it's a character that works as like a seasonal thing... and I get still wanting to use Bray more oftne since he was popular but again the answer to that is have Firefly Bray wrestle differently. The Fiend should’ve been Bray’s “nuclear option”, his “hey, you’ve gone and done screwed up” persona that only shows up on occasion.
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Post by koreycaskets on Oct 1, 2022 13:40:30 GMT -5
I just don't know who to believe any longer ...
According to Meltzer, the White Rabbit may NOT be Bray after all, instead hinting that it may be Malakai Black. "There was a buzzard spot during a backstage interview on Raw, and the source code on the website includes the opening lines of the Aleister Black theme, 'No man is ever truly good. No man is ever truly evil' meaning when this was first done, they expected Black or wanted to tease Black,'' said Meltzer. Interesting..
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Post by polarbearpete on Oct 1, 2022 13:42:20 GMT -5
I just don't know who to believe any longer ... According to Meltzer, the White Rabbit may NOT be Bray after all, instead hinting that it may be Malakai Black. "There was a buzzard spot during a backstage interview on Raw, and the source code on the website includes the opening lines of the Aleister Black theme, 'No man is ever truly good. No man is ever truly evil' meaning when this was first done, they expected Black or wanted to tease Black,'' said Meltzer. Interesting.. That sounds like Meltzer just talking about the various clues, not reporting that it might not be Bray.
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Post by Fade on Oct 1, 2022 13:43:46 GMT -5
I just don't know who to believe any longer ... According to Meltzer, the White Rabbit may NOT be Bray after all, instead hinting that it may be Malakai Black. "There was a buzzard spot during a backstage interview on Raw, and the source code on the website includes the opening lines of the Aleister Black theme, 'No man is ever truly good. No man is ever truly evil' meaning when this was first done, they expected Black or wanted to tease Black,'' said Meltzer. Interesting.. That screamed like misdirection. And also, isn’t it the case that..he legally can’t? Homey also just said he’s coming back to AEW. I’m picturing him returning to WWE and going on IG Live “guys - whoever said I’m going back to AEW: it. Is. Not. True!”
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Oct 1, 2022 13:48:57 GMT -5
The problem wasn't really hte fiend itself... it was using the fiend all the time. it's a character that works as like a seasonal thing... and I get still wanting to use Bray more oftne since he was popular but again the answer to that is have Firefly Bray wrestle differently. The Fiend should’ve been Bray’s “nuclear option”, his “hey, you’ve gone and done screwed up” persona that only shows up on occasion. Even have it be a thing he doesn't necessarily want to bring out.
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Post by Rhody Codes on Oct 1, 2022 15:40:02 GMT -5
The Fiend should’ve been Bray’s “nuclear option”, his “hey, you’ve gone and done screwed up” persona that only shows up on occasion. Even have it be a thing he doesn't necessarily want to bring out. Maybe it’s something that causes Bray great pain every time the Fiend is summoned. Like, he fears the Fiend just taking complete control, hence why he’s frequently warning people not to let “him” out.
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Post by Scooterdust on Oct 1, 2022 21:25:37 GMT -5
Even though I read what the Morse code message was, I wanted to decode it myself so I used the one from MorseCode World, and interestingly enough, some of the settings needed to be adjusted to translate the message properly. It default started with a WPM of 20 and a Farnsworth WPM of 20 and a Hz frequency that bounced back between 345 & 517 on automatic, but to properly decode the message, it needed to be at 15 WPM at a Hz of 517, don't know if 15/517 is going to be significant, but who knows?
I'm thinking we're being led to believe 3 things:
1. This is a wild goose chase (based on Drink More Ovaltine) 2. It's Bray Wyatt 3. It's Aleister/Malakai.
I think for this to have the biggest payoff (aside from it just being Bray returning), would have to be both showing up at the same time, meaning when the White Rabbit is finally revealed.
This is the hypothetical scenario that played out in my head (and it's similar to when they had the Taker countdown reveal, only to have Trips show up in the same reveal).
Keep in mind, this is assuming Black would receive just as loud a pop.
1. The possibly final White Rabbit teaser is shown, and in the grandest way possible, (think Cody's return or Rock's reveal as host for WM27), the lights go out, a spotlight shines on the center of the ring, and there stands the White Rabbit (someone in a Donnie Darko-esque rabbit mask, maybe even Fiend-like). The crowd is going wild, already chanting "Welcome Back" and "Let Him In" and "Yowie-Wowie" as the cell phone fireflies start to show en masse.
2. The Rabbit does everything to tease the crowd into thinking it's Bray, and then finally, the Rabbit removes the mask to reveal Aleister Black underneath. The crowd is still in a frenzy, but a little disappointed. From here, it goes one of two ways:
2-1: Black starts reciting the eerie sentences we've found in the lead-up to this, and he's basically admitting to being the White Rabbit until...another White Rabbit promo starts to play, and as the last "Feed Your Head" fades out, the pyro goes wild, and the spotlight goes dark, two spotlights return, Black still in his, but now, there's Bray in the second one, except he's only wearing half of the Fiend mask, and Bray/Fiend tells us Black was not the White Rabbit, but it's Black that was his White Rabbit, Black, in turn, responds with "And you were mine, too" (before they Keyzer Soze their way out of the ring) (not gonna go farther in this one, because the logic kinda stops here for me and I couldn't really think of how to progress further).
2-2: Before Black can utter a single word, the lights and pyro in the arena start going nuts. "Feed Your Head" is being repeated throughout the arena faster and faster and more garbled before it finishes and the spotlight goes out, and two spotlights return, again with Black in one, but non-Fiend Bray Wyatt in the other. They have an intense staring contest as the fans go insane. Bray makes a gesture and the lights go out again. When the spotlights return, they are red, and Bray is in full Fiend get-up, only there's something even more creepy about this Fiend mask, as if the most frightening thing ever was made even more frightening. It looks like this Uber-Fiend is sizing Black up, only for Black to make a similar gesture, and the spotlights go out again. This time, "Who Killed The World" starts repeating throughout the arena, and when it stops, spotlights return, Bray now in a single red spotlight as the Uber-Fiend, but Black is now in a get-up of his own, with a deranged-looking, even creepier than Donnie Darko-esque Rabbit mask in a single white spotlight. You could say Black found his "inner Fiend." From here, there's three possible conclusions:
2-2A: The two come face to face, lights and pyro go nuts again, and the arena goes dark, and when full lights return, both are nowhere to be seen.
2-2B: They come face to face and Black answers the question of Who Killed The World, pointing at Bray, with one of the digits from what appears to be a mutated paw with Freddy Krueger-esque claws with the only two words said at this point, "YOU DID" before taking hold of Bray, lights go out, insane pyro, etc. and when full lights return, just the masks are in the center of the ring as both Bray and Black are simultaneously repeating: "LET HIM IN."
2-2C: It's a combo of A & B, face to face, "Who Killed The World?" repeated throughout the arena, except both Bray and Black answer the question with "WE WILL" before insane lights and pyro, and only masks remaining in the ring, and both men are heard throughout the arena saying "LET US IN."
Yeah, this is way too over-thought and I need something more to do with my free time than go chasing rabbits, maybe I'll ask Alice...aww crap.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2022 2:05:38 GMT -5
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Oct 2, 2022 2:38:47 GMT -5
Not for nothing but I’m pretty sure Sami Zayn waved me through the stop sign today and I was about 7 hours away from where he was.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 2, 2022 3:07:25 GMT -5
The problem wasn't really hte fiend itself... it was using the fiend all the time. it's a character that works as like a seasonal thing... and I get still wanting to use Bray more oftne since he was popular but again the answer to that is have Firefly Bray wrestle differently. The Fiend should’ve been Bray’s “nuclear option”, his “hey, you’ve gone and done screwed up” persona that only shows up on occasion. Sort of like how Cactus Jack was used towards the end of Mick's active career.
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