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Post by PTBartman on Sept 19, 2022 14:23:07 GMT -5
Bloodline Family Matters is gonna go so f***ing hard in November. This isn't WWE this is Four Uces now. I misread this as “Bloodline Family Values” at first, and now I’m like “Who do they bring in as the Debbie Jellinsky of the piece?”, even though it definitely wasn’t what it said. Wargames Family Matters Sami: Did I do that?
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Sept 19, 2022 14:58:52 GMT -5
Add in the stipulation to it whomever from Team Seth can earn a title match with Roman Reigns. That way it adds another element to the match with possible shenanigans within Seth's team. Have it be a stipulation that Heyman works into the contract. And have it be Sami's idea so Roman calls Sami, "Brilliant" in front of Jey. Also gives them an out for Sami to take the loss and plant the seeds for his eventual face turn. This would be a perfect time for the Bloodline to actually lose for once, and it wouldn’t even need Roman to get pinned. Maybe he gets taken out in a table bump of some kind and the faces beat Sami’s ass for the pin.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Sept 19, 2022 15:06:08 GMT -5
This is good news. I always liked the Survivor Series concept but I was getting really tired of the brand warfare stuff. It wasn't interesting and was just getting tiresome and if they weren't going to do Survivor Series without it then it's best just to get rid of the whole concept in general.
Wargames will allow for better long term stories to be concluded. I'm assuming the men's one will be centered around the Bloodline and the women's one centered around Damage CTRL. Roman/Sami/Solo/Usos vs. McIntyre/Sheamus/Holland/Butch/KO and Bianca/Asuka/Alexa/Raquel/Becky (Shotzi or Aliyah taking Becky's spot if she's not cleared by then) vs. Bayley/Io/Dakota and I'm blanking on two heels they can team with as it feels like there's literally no credible heels on the roster outside of them. I guess maybe Sonya and Shayna.
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Post by PTBartman on Sept 19, 2022 15:44:15 GMT -5
This is good news. I always liked the Survivor Series concept but I was getting really tired of the brand warfare stuff. It wasn't interesting and was just getting tiresome and if they weren't going to do Survivor Series without it then it's best just to get rid of the whole concept in general. Wargames will allow for better long term stories to be concluded. I'm assuming the men's one will be centered around the Bloodline and the women's one centered around Damage CTRL. Roman/Sami/Solo/Usos vs. McIntyre/Sheamus/Holland/Butch/KO and Bianca/Asuka/Alexa/Raquel/Becky (Shotzi or Aliyah taking Becky's spot if she's not cleared by then) vs. Bayley/Io/Dakota and I'm blanking on two heels they can team with as it feels like there's literally no credible heels on the roster outside of them. I guess maybe Sonya and Shayna. Sasha and Naomi?
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Post by PTBartman on Sept 19, 2022 15:44:29 GMT -5
This is good news. I always liked the Survivor Series concept but I was getting really tired of the brand warfare stuff. It wasn't interesting and was just getting tiresome and if they weren't going to do Survivor Series without it then it's best just to get rid of the whole concept in general. Wargames will allow for better long term stories to be concluded. I'm assuming the men's one will be centered around the Bloodline and the women's one centered around Damage CTRL. Roman/Sami/Solo/Usos vs. McIntyre/Sheamus/Holland/Butch/KO and Bianca/Asuka/Alexa/Raquel/Becky (Shotzi or Aliyah taking Becky's spot if she's not cleared by then) vs. Bayley/Io/Dakota and I'm blanking on two heels they can team with as it feels like there's literally no credible heels on the roster outside of them. I guess maybe Sonya and Shayna. Sasha and Naomi?
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Post by cosmo on Sept 19, 2022 15:46:26 GMT -5
It's kind of annoying to think of some of the potential great war games matches we could've had over the years if Vince wasn't so stubborn. Evolution v Goldberg/HBK/RVD/Booker 2003 JBL's Cabinet v Eddie/Cena/Rey/RVD 2004 Cena/DX v Edge/Orton/Umaga 2006 Team WWE v Team Nexus 2010 Cena/Bryan/Punk v Team Authority 2013 Shield v Wyatt Family 2013 Roman/Rollins/Sami/New Day v Owens/Jericho/Braun/Sheamus/Cesaro 2016 Team WWE v Team NXT 2019 Team Becky/Charlotte v Team Sasha/Bayley 2019 Bloodline v New Day 2021 Hell, I still stand by the idea that the WWF vs. Alliance main event at Survivor Series 2001 should’ve been a War Games match.
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Post by PTBartman on Sept 19, 2022 15:48:00 GMT -5
This is good news. I always liked the Survivor Series concept but I was getting really tired of the brand warfare stuff. It wasn't interesting and was just getting tiresome and if they weren't going to do Survivor Series without it then it's best just to get rid of the whole concept in general. Wargames will allow for better long term stories to be concluded. I'm assuming the men's one will be centered around the Bloodline and the women's one centered around Damage CTRL. Roman/Sami/Solo/Usos vs. McIntyre/Sheamus/Holland/Butch/KO and Bianca/Asuka/Alexa/Raquel/Becky (Shotzi or Aliyah taking Becky's spot if she's not cleared by then) vs. Bayley/Io/Dakota and I'm blanking on two heels they can team with as it feels like there's literally no credible heels on the roster outside of them. I guess maybe Sonya and Shayna. Sasha and Naomi?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2022 15:49:00 GMT -5
This is good news. I always liked the Survivor Series concept but I was getting really tired of the brand warfare stuff. It wasn't interesting and was just getting tiresome and if they weren't going to do Survivor Series without it then it's best just to get rid of the whole concept in general. Yeah, there were some entertaining moments like Becky invading Raw in 2018, but it's hard to give a shit about brand warfare when people switch shows at least once a year and both shows feel the same anyway.
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Post by hyperstorm on Sept 19, 2022 16:21:37 GMT -5
So correct me if I am wrong but I thought MLW originally bought the name? I know NXT was using it but I could have sworn they used the proper name for a bit as well...Still wish AEW would have used "The Match Beyond" as a throwback to the original but I understand why they went with Blood and Guts based off Vince's statement. Either way this is a weird one on the main roster but I guess it fits with the Bloodline story MLW got the trademark after it lapsed in 2018, sold it back to WWE in 2019 and renamed their event to WarChamber which is a single-ring WarGames match with barbed wire across the top of the cage.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2022 16:32:51 GMT -5
This is good news. I always liked the Survivor Series concept but I was getting really tired of the brand warfare stuff. It wasn't interesting and was just getting tiresome and if they weren't going to do Survivor Series without it then it's best just to get rid of the whole concept in general. Wargames will allow for better long term stories to be concluded. I'm assuming the men's one will be centered around the Bloodline and the women's one centered around Damage CTRL. Roman/Sami/Solo/Usos vs. McIntyre/Sheamus/Holland/Butch/KO and Bianca/Asuka/Alexa/Raquel/Becky (Shotzi or Aliyah taking Becky's spot if she's not cleared by then) vs. Bayley/Io/Dakota and I'm blanking on two heels they can team with as it feels like there's literally no credible heels on the roster outside of them. I guess maybe Sonya and Shayna. Sasha and Naomi? Doubt they bring back Sasha and Naomi as heels (crowd aint gonna boo them upon their return) BUT if they did it here my thinking would have to be it would be to just lead to the swerve of them turning on Bayleys team costing them Wargames and making their declaration for the womens tag titles.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2022 16:37:02 GMT -5
So correct me if I am wrong but I thought MLW originally bought the name? I know NXT was using it but I could have sworn they used the proper name for a bit as well...Still wish AEW would have used "The Match Beyond" as a throwback to the original but I understand why they went with Blood and Guts based off Vince's statement. Either way this is a weird one on the main roster but I guess it fits with the Bloodline story MLW got the trademark after it lapsed in 2018, sold it back to WWE in 2019 and renamed their event to WarChamber which is a single-ring WarGames match with barbed wire across the top of the cage. War Chamber is a pretty rough name considering the ideas it invokes 100 years later.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Sept 19, 2022 16:40:19 GMT -5
That instantly makes Survivor Series the most interesting it's been in at least like 12 years.
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Post by 06vwgti on Sept 19, 2022 16:55:14 GMT -5
This is good news. I always liked the Survivor Series concept but I was getting really tired of the brand warfare stuff. It wasn't interesting and was just getting tiresome and if they weren't going to do Survivor Series without it then it's best just to get rid of the whole concept in general. Yeah, there were some entertaining moments like Becky invading Raw in 2018, but it's hard to give a shit about brand warfare when people switch shows at least once a year and both shows feel the same anyway. The lame red and blue jobber shirts didn't help either
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Post by BorneAgain on Sept 19, 2022 16:57:42 GMT -5
Just give me one hype video for the event set to War Pigs and I'll be a happy man:
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Post by Rudy Gobert Weather Machine on Sept 19, 2022 17:34:18 GMT -5
Sig changed for War Games loyalties purposes
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Post by BradMKE on Sept 19, 2022 17:37:04 GMT -5
On one hand, it's a big upgrade over the current format. On the other hand, having a set time where a big gimmick match happens independent of the storylines still sucks and having two of them waters it down a bit. Overall a plus I'd say but I am not overly excited. I have also felt like some of the NXT War Games matches have been just there and they have too often tried to be cute about the psychology when the match really just books itself. There is nothing in the interview that says it will be tied to Survivor Series every year. It might have just lined up that way this year because of the Bloodline storyline being so hot. There's no reason they couldn't do <insert B-level PPV name>: WarGames next year if the storyline justifies it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2022 17:39:02 GMT -5
Yeah, there were some entertaining moments like Becky invading Raw in 2018, but it's hard to give a shit about brand warfare when people switch shows at least once a year and both shows feel the same anyway. The lame red and blue jobber shirts didn't help either Bray Wyatt wearing a SD shirt that one year was hilarious.
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Post by MrElijah on Sept 19, 2022 17:42:06 GMT -5
While I would love the Final Match of Survival to return, this isn't a bad choice.
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Post by fg on Sept 19, 2022 17:42:10 GMT -5
The lame red and blue jobber shirts didn't help either Bray Wyatt wearing a SD shirt that one year was hilarious. Not to mention seeing faces and heels ON THE SAME TEAM kind of ruins it for me a little. I like the traditional faces vs heels better. The one year where the brand warfare gimmick was best was in 2019 because NXT got involved and we saw confrontations we didn’t see before.
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Post by Error on Sept 19, 2022 18:37:46 GMT -5
Rey and Legado v. Judgement Day and ?
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