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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2022 15:55:42 GMT -5
I was flipping a lot between Dynamite and the Yankees game and the local market rating for Yanks-Pirates last night was massive because of the potential of Aaron Judge hitting #61. Considering how big a wrestling market the NY Metro area is, that likely contributed to week-to-week being a bit lower. He has more homers than the Tigers and A's have wins.
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Post by markymark on Sept 22, 2022 15:57:12 GMT -5
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Sept 22, 2022 15:58:29 GMT -5
Most sources have the Nielsen margin of error at or around 10%. At least, that's what's considered "acceptable." So, a viewership of a million is really an estimated viewership between 900k and 1.1 million. All these ratings really show conclusively is that a comparable number of people watched this week and last.
I think people tend to put way too much stock into the actual audience numbers of TV ratings, when there's a very good reason that the "important" number is the demo rating, and the whole thing is an incredibly inexact science.
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Post by Cyno on Sept 22, 2022 15:59:15 GMT -5
Why are we even comparing AEW and WWE ratings? They’re on different nights with different competition and other variables, it’s so weird to me. The only way that we’ll know is if they ever go head to head and honestly, it’s not in the interest of either(or the fans) to do that anytime soon. WWE and AEW are both actually easy and enjoyable watches at the moment, just enjoy it as a fan because there haven’t been two National promotions that were actually good for a generation at least. We’re in a new golden age so just sit back and enjoy it instead of taking sides like it’s 1998 or something. 🤷🏻♂️ WWE ratings (and from what it seems, the product quality in general) has been the best it has in years. Seriously, MNF dip Raw numbers this year were the baseline normal just a few months ago. AEW's been consistently good in its ratings despite their arguable top draws not being on at all (with one very likely done for good). Shit's going good for both companies, but tribal fans have to be miserable pricks about something.
Most sources have the Nielsen margin of error at or around 10%. At least, that's what's considered "acceptable." So, a viewership of a million is really an estimated viewership between 900k and 1.1 million. All these ratings really show conclusively is that a comparable number of people watched this week and last. I think people tend to put way too much stock into the actual audience numbers of TV ratings, when there's a very good reason that the "important" number is the demo rating, and the whole thing is an incredibly inexact science.
This is all true. P2+ viewership really doesn't matter that much outside of people still stuck in the 90's Monday Night Wars mindset. It used to matter more, but it's no longer a real accurate measure of people watching due to all the different ways people consume content from DVR to the internet and streaming services. 18-49 demo is the money maker for most shows because that's what networks use to charge for ad space.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Sept 22, 2022 16:01:01 GMT -5
The Goal Post moving on socials that a million viewers is suddenly bad when all it was before was "They just can't ever hit a million" is f***ing hilarious, some people really need to get a life. A million is great and number 1 is great, but is still surprising that a stacked Grand Slam show was down from last week’s show. I don't even think it's surprising or a huge disappointment. Survivor started back. Even after all these years that's still a popular show that can take a hit out of anything else on TV. It's just funny after TK's tweet on Monday. I don't see how some can't see the irony in TK making fun of big competition causing Raw to lose viewers (they were up in the demo too, I thought that was more important than viewers?) then 2 days later big competition causes his show to lose viewers. Like it's not a big deal but if the billionaire boss is allowed to get his jokes off then people can gently tap him back. If you can dish it out etc.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 22, 2022 16:08:24 GMT -5
The Goal Post moving on socials that a million viewers is suddenly bad when all it was before was "They just can't ever hit a million" is f***ing hilarious, some people really need to get a life. A million is great and number 1 is great, but is still surprising that a stacked Grand Slam show was down from last week’s show. The ratings have been surprising, and last weeks show were probably the most surprising of the year. I'm not shocked there was a bit of a drop with Survivor and Masked Singer and such debuting, but the demos held strong and beat RAW in some categories.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 22, 2022 16:10:15 GMT -5
Most sources have the Nielsen margin of error at or around 10%. At least, that's what's considered "acceptable." So, a viewership of a million is really an estimated viewership between 900k and 1.1 million. All these ratings really show conclusively is that a comparable number of people watched this week and last. I think people tend to put way too much stock into the actual audience numbers of TV ratings, when there's a very good reason that the "important" number is the demo rating, and the whole thing is an incredibly inexact science. Here's another consideration, the average does not reflect how many people are actually watching the show at any given time A few weeks ago Garcia/Yuta looked like it had a drop, but minute by minute for the end of the match had it over a million viewers and the most watched segment of that entire Dynamite Even if we see drops in the quarterly breakdowns, it doesn't mean that segment was a failure, minute by minute it could be a success, and the average doesn't reflect it, same with the overall average not showing the overall peaks of the program
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Sept 22, 2022 16:12:45 GMT -5
A million is great and number 1 is great, but is still surprising that a stacked Grand Slam show was down from last week’s show. The ratings have been surprising, and last weeks show were probably the most surprising of the year. I'm not shocked there was a bit of a drop with Survivor and Masked Singer and such debuting, but the demos held strong and beat RAW in some categories. this. still over a million and was fine in the demos. You can't dunk on this rating. that is just dumb.
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Post by markymark on Sept 22, 2022 16:38:39 GMT -5
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Post by Deputy Muscle on Sept 22, 2022 16:51:34 GMT -5
Acclaimed rule the demo. Scissor me 18-49s
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Post by asuka007 on Sept 22, 2022 16:59:45 GMT -5
The Women’s Match gained.
It’s almost like featuring them consistently makes them feel more important. Fancy that.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Sept 22, 2022 17:08:46 GMT -5
The ratings have been surprising, and last weeks show were probably the most surprising of the year. I'm not shocked there was a bit of a drop with Survivor and Masked Singer and such debuting, but the demos held strong and beat RAW in some categories. this. still over a million and was fine in the demos. You can't dunk on this rating. that is just dumb. It was a joke reference to Tony's tweet. It wasn't meant as a dunk. Jesus christ. lol I'm not surprised at the demos being a bit higher than Raw for segments. I'd say Football is a bit closer to Wrestling's audience than something like The Masked Singer.
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Sept 22, 2022 17:24:56 GMT -5
this. still over a million and was fine in the demos. You can't dunk on this rating. that is just dumb. It was a joke reference to Tony's tweet. It wasn't meant as a dunk. Jesus christ. lol I'm not surprised at the demos being a bit higher than Raw for segments. I'd say Football is a bit closer to Wrestling's audience than something like The Masked Singer. my bad. I was speaking in generalities.
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Post by Dub H on Sept 22, 2022 17:29:12 GMT -5
two big points:
The acclaimed gained a ton of viewers.(and so did the woman)
The show was still very stable
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Post by HMARK Center on Sept 22, 2022 17:39:26 GMT -5
If I recall correctly, Grand Slam last year also saw a slight dip due to it being during season premiere week for the networks, like this week with Survivor and Masked Singer.
The big things the networks are going to care about are demo numbers and trends. Current trends for wrestling on TV are still strong for now.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Sept 22, 2022 17:52:18 GMT -5
Demo shows those who tuned in stuck throughout and there were those who didn't much all night (likely for other stuff on TV). Lower than you would like but nothing really lost viewers which is a sign of a strong show.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 22, 2022 18:02:32 GMT -5
Acclaimed rule the demo. Scissor me 18-49s Good for The Acclaimed and the women, I feel like Saraya might've helped there in the minute to minute Overall this was a very consistent show just like last week, you really want to see that, advertisers like seeing it too.
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Post by bob on Sept 22, 2022 18:37:21 GMT -5
Why are we even comparing AEW and WWE ratings? They’re on different nights with different competition and other variables, it’s so weird to me. The only way that we’ll know is if they ever go head to head and honestly, it’s not in the interest of either(or the fans) to do that anytime soon. WWE and AEW are both actually easy and enjoyable watches at the moment, just enjoy it as a fan because there haven’t been two National promotions that were actually good for a generation at least. We’re in a new golden age so just sit back and enjoy it instead of taking sides like it’s 1998 or something. 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Sept 22, 2022 19:47:19 GMT -5
If I recall correctly, Grand Slam last year also saw a slight dip due to it being during season premiere week for the networks, like this week with Survivor and Masked Singer. The big things the networks are going to care about are demo numbers and trends. Current trends for wrestling on TV are still strong for now. The thing I remember about last year is Alvarez being an idiot and predicting dynamite would slaughter Raw in the ratings that week and then they came in lower than the week before.
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Post by jm on Sept 22, 2022 20:42:52 GMT -5
If I recall correctly, Grand Slam last year also saw a slight dip due to it being during season premiere week for the networks, like this week with Survivor and Masked Singer. The big things the networks are going to care about are demo numbers and trends. Current trends for wrestling on TV are still strong for now. The thing I remember about last year is Alvarez being an idiot and predicting dynamite would slaughter Raw in the ratings that week and then they came in lower than the week before. Actually, his exact quote that week was "Next week could be a massacre". There's a difference between "could be" and "will be". He never outright said that Dynamite would slaughter Raw that week. He said it was a possibility. But over time, it has become a Mandela/Streisand effect that he outright said Dynamite would slaughter Raw that week.
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