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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Aug 1, 2024 14:03:43 GMT -5
Well I'm convinced by that non-apology. Everybody deserves a 50th chance. 51st chance, since he just tripled down.
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Post by darbus alan on Aug 1, 2024 14:04:14 GMT -5
"I'm still going to be transphobic as f***, but I'm going to sort of apologize for misgendering a woman as a man off lies but not really."
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Post by Renslayer on Aug 1, 2024 14:13:45 GMT -5
I need him to drop the belt and f*** off. Same for McAfee while we're at it
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Post by Goldash #BLM on Aug 1, 2024 14:17:19 GMT -5
Knight better beat this clown in 10 seconds, I wouldn't even mind if they do it on Smackdown.
This absolutely sucks by Paul in all aspects. And to react with "OOPSIE" there is such crap. Had it with this dude a decade ago, couldn't care less how "talented" in the ring he is.
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Post by Some Guy on Aug 1, 2024 14:18:30 GMT -5
There is one way for Punk to get back in the good graces of some and use his powers for good...
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Post by FinalGwen on Aug 1, 2024 14:21:04 GMT -5
There are so many things I could say about Logan Paul that would get me banned here, but suffice it to say that he's a transphobic sack of shit on top of every other issue he has, and that he's in WWE is another reason I will never trust that this company has somehow changed and is now less morally bankrupt.
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Post by dreidemy on Aug 1, 2024 14:27:26 GMT -5
F*** this clown and everyone who supports him
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Post by khali on Aug 1, 2024 14:33:53 GMT -5
No one this publicly and brazenly awful in so many ways should be employed by a wrestling company, let alone have his product plastered all over their mat. WWE should have never hired him, but after this he better be gone immediately. I’m goddamn sick of transphobia that continues to impact my friends and loved ones.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Aug 1, 2024 14:36:19 GMT -5
... damn. i gotta really remind myself to not read the comments and quotes on shit like this.
this is why when people like cm punk speak up, i take it as a really kind thing to do even if one could wonder if it is performative. it very well could be but when the rest of the world is waiting on people to just die already, it is nice to see and every little bit helps. not much else i can say
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Post by nisidhe on Aug 1, 2024 14:39:39 GMT -5
Knight better beat this clown in 10 seconds, I wouldn't even mind if they do it on Smackdown. This absolutely sucks by Paul in all aspects. And to react with "OOPSIE" there is such crap. Had it with this dude a decade ago, couldn't care less how "talented" in the ring he is. 25.5 seconds, then follow it up with sketches of Knight fixing himself a coffee, taking a wizz, making a quick phone call, just to rub it in.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Aug 1, 2024 14:44:33 GMT -5
But he's a changed man and is a good heel who can do the graps! f*** this c***
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Post by yokohamacpfc on Aug 1, 2024 14:53:13 GMT -5
I think HHH will secretly be upset at Paul because this means he's going to have to um and ah his way through an uncomfortable question or two at the presser which he enjoys as about as much as he enjoyed putting people over during the reign of terror but nothing is going to happen to him as from their point of view they need Paul more than he needs them. The double standard over Paul saying what he likes and Zayn having to be subtle over his activism (as well as CM Punk not having a single political opinion since All In) is a terrible look but unsurprising when you consider what people under the TKO umbrella have done and said in the past.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Aug 1, 2024 14:58:18 GMT -5
I don’t see the issue with his most recent statement? He admitted to spreading misinformation and I agree on the stance that biological males shouldn’t compete with biological females, especially in a dangerous sport like boxing. With Imane Khalief, it is an unfortunate situation as she is not in control of her chromosomes and she is no way at fault He has a gigantic outreach and has to know better before sending out something to viscerally hateful like that. He actively misgendered someone and called what she was doing outright evil. And his "apology" comes across as completely unserious and forced by a PR firm. Also he still has the first tweet up in spite of his apology.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Aug 1, 2024 15:00:32 GMT -5
There is one way for Punk to get back in the good graces of some and use his powers for good... I will take back everything I have ever said and reorient my entire moral core if CM Punk throws hands backstage with this clown
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Aug 1, 2024 15:01:05 GMT -5
I think HHH will secretly be upset at Paul because this means he's going to have to um and ah his way through an uncomfortable question or two at the presser which he enjoys as about as much as he enjoyed putting people over during the reign of terror but nothing is going to happen to him as from their point of view they need Paul more than he needs them. The double standard over Paul saying what he likes and Zayn having to be subtle over his activism (as well as CM Punk not having a single political opinion since All In) is a terrible look but unsurprising when you consider what people under the TKO umbrella have done and said in the past. it feels asinine to say it but I think they won't even acknowledge it purely because his character is supposed to be the biggest shithead heel imaginable if Sami or Punk's gimmicks were related to their own thoughts/beliefs, might be the same way. they really are that basic and dumb about this stuff pretty often. I would be astounded if this gets more acknowledgement from WWE than they did with tiffany stratton, which was really none (not at all equating the two obv)
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Post by darbus alan on Aug 1, 2024 15:08:08 GMT -5
I don’t see the issue with his most recent statement? He admitted to spreading misinformation and I agree on the stance that biological males shouldn’t compete with biological females, especially in a dangerous sport like boxing. With Imane Khalief, it is an unfortunate situation as she is not in control of her chromosomes and she is no way at fault Between this and bemoaning the DEI phantom, Bark Bark Bark Bark.
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Post by mistery on Aug 1, 2024 15:09:23 GMT -5
I think HHH will secretly be upset at Paul because this means he's going to have to um and ah his way through an uncomfortable question or two at the presser which he enjoys as about as much as he enjoyed putting people over during the reign of terror but nothing is going to happen to him as from their point of view they need Paul more than he needs them. The double standard over Paul saying what he likes and Zayn having to be subtle over his activism (as well as CM Punk not having a single political opinion since All In) is a terrible look but unsurprising when you consider what people under the TKO umbrella have done and said in the past. it feels asinine to say it but I think they won't even acknowledge it purely because his character is supposed to be the biggest shithead heel imaginable if Sami or Punk's gimmicks were related to their own thoughts/beliefs, might be the same way. they really are that basic and dumb about this stuff pretty often. I would be astounded if this gets more acknowledgement from WWE than they did with tiffany stratton, which was really none (not at all equating the two obv) I mean they absolutely acknowledged the Tiffany Stratton situation, because it felt like her losing to Bianca during the Queen of the Ring tournament and completely vanishing off of TV for awhile, only surfacing again to lose, was pretty telling (And she only got out of the doghouse imo when she won MITB). And she actively tried to nuke the post that pissed people off. Where Logan Paul is reveling in his controversy, and has shown absolutely zero remorse. I guess we'll see, but smart money is on Logan dropping the title this weekend and being taken off TV for a long time, or until his contract expires, whatever happens first.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Aug 1, 2024 15:11:55 GMT -5
There's a fun learning exercise in this; it's easy to go "Oh well he said a transphobia but it's not against a trans person", but this sort of shit happens more than you'd think, it's just right now on the name of a guy who people are paying attention to. Lots of cisgender people have to people with the fallout of transphobia in a lot of ugly ways, whether it's bathroom bills and people transvestigating random strangers because their face 'looks trans' or whatever, or people with hormone conditions that find themselves discriminated against in sports because people care more about the witch hunt clout of exposing someone than they do about any actual truth. Logan Paul cares so so so much about the 'ultimate evil' of trans people in boxing that he didn't even look to see if it was true. This isn't a one-t9ime thing, this isn't just one mistake a dumbass made. This is relentless, because the hate isn't about sports or protecting people, it's about hate, and any collateral damage in the wya is just an acceptable practice.
Trans women aren't upending their lives and going through drawn out, agonizing, invasive legal and medical procedures just to be able to hit women for sport. It's way easier to just become a cop.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Aug 1, 2024 15:14:04 GMT -5
it feels asinine to say it but I think they won't even acknowledge it purely because his character is supposed to be the biggest shithead heel imaginable if Sami or Punk's gimmicks were related to their own thoughts/beliefs, might be the same way. they really are that basic and dumb about this stuff pretty often. I would be astounded if this gets more acknowledgement from WWE than they did with tiffany stratton, which was really none (not at all equating the two obv) I mean they absolutely acknowledged the Tiffany Stratton situation, because it felt like her losing to Bianca during the Queen of the Ring tournament and completely vanishing off of TV for awhile, only surfacing again to lose, was pretty telling. And she actively tried to nuke the post that pissed people off. Where Logan Paul is reveling in his controversy, and has shown absolutely zero remorse. I guess we'll see, but smart money is on Logan dropping the title this weekend and being taken off TV for a long time, or until his contract expires, whatever happens first. I really don't think they punished her and like, I get it. It was a mistake and she got rid of it immediately. It still happened but she did get rid of it within I think it was seconds? One can question if she needed to be punished or if it was just a dumb oversight but I don't believe she was ever planned to actually beat Bianca during QOTR. QOTR would've gotten her to the same spot she is now, likely winning the title sooner than later. It came down to their own preference on if it would happen by briefcase or the built in title shot for winning QOTR. We're just going to agree to disagree on this because although the booking of the QOTR tournament started to make absolutely no sense as it went on, I really do not think it was because they changed things for Tiffany, they didn't do a great job of setting everything up. Logan will 99% lose the title this weekend as he was going to before but I can't possibly imagine WWE commenting on it or changing plans that were already set. I've dialed back the "oh this guy loses a match and he's done forever" mindset because WWE has earned back a good bit of that trust in that regard but LA Knight would have been destroyed for good if he lost this weekend. The end result is going to be the same as it was before Logan said any of this, I would imagine.
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Post by darbus alan on Aug 1, 2024 15:15:59 GMT -5
There's a fun learning exercise in this; it's easy to go "Oh well he said a transphobia but it's not against a trans person", but this sort of shit happens more than you'd think, it's just right now on the name of a guy who people are paying attention to. Lots of cisgender people have to people with the fallout of transphobia in a lot of ugly ways, whether it's bathroom bills and people transvestigating random strangers because their face 'looks trans' or whatever, or people with hormone conditions that find themselves discriminated against in sports because people care more about the witch hunt clout of exposing someone than they do about any actual truth. Logan Paul cares so so so much about the 'ultimate evil' of trans people in boxing that he didn't even look to see if it was true. This isn't a one-t9ime thing, this isn't just one mistake a dumbass made. This is relentless, because the hate isn't about sports or protecting people, it's about hate, and any collateral damage in the wya is just an acceptable practice. Trans women aren't upending their lives and going through drawn out, agonizing, invasive legal and medical procedures just to be able to hit women for sport. It's way easier to just become a cop. I've seen finger pointers at cosplay models for being "secret men" for the most superficial physical reasons. Mind you, one particular genius made this accusation to a pregnant model.
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