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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Aug 2, 2024 9:04:48 GMT -5
Something about it being in all caps makes it sound like Michael Cole is saying it. VINTAGE TRANSPHOBIA. He's putting those uneducated takes to good use!
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Post by Dub H on Aug 2, 2024 9:05:33 GMT -5
Is the guy cared about "ultimate evil" he should be calling out the child rapist that is competeting
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Post by cosmo on Aug 2, 2024 9:10:03 GMT -5
I mean Logan Paul was probably going to lose to LA Knight anyways. He’s a dickhead but I don’t think he’s the type to be petty about losing matches. If nothing else, if not to LA Knight at the second biggest show of the year, then who and when?
To Grayson Waller or Austin Theory, tonight in 30 seconds. Just because I wanna see him get squashed by one of those two losers.
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Post by Pure Fusion Jesse Walsh on Aug 2, 2024 9:12:10 GMT -5
Bad news, gang. I’m not allowed to compete at the Olympics. They found traces of male DNA in my bed sheets 🙁
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Post by khali on Aug 2, 2024 9:16:58 GMT -5
I’m going to file a complaint that every NBA has an unfair biological advantage over me because they’re much taller than I am.
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Post by JoshiGuy69 on Aug 2, 2024 9:20:26 GMT -5
I’m going to file a complaint that every NBA has an unfair biological advantage over me because they’re much taller than I am. I’m entering a beauty pageant and I’m fully expecting internet chuds to throw a fit because everyone else is unfairly more attractive than me. Shit’s f***ed up.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Aug 2, 2024 9:25:36 GMT -5
Man, did you know you can't just enter a marathon without doing some of the work involved in doing a marathon? I'd say that isolates us casuals who just want to have a nice walk.
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Aug 2, 2024 9:25:51 GMT -5
I’m going to file a complaint that every NBA has an unfair biological advantage over me because they’re much taller than I am. Testing has proven that Boban Majanovic has a genetic mutation of the pituitary gland that causes his body to overproduce HGH. He's 7'4 and his muscles and bones are denser than most everyone else in the league. Yet they've allowed him to play professional basketball for 14 years. Reprehensible.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 2, 2024 9:29:13 GMT -5
Bad news, gang. I’m not allowed to compete at the Olympics. They found traces of male DNA in my bed sheets 🙁
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salz4life
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Post by salz4life on Aug 2, 2024 9:31:25 GMT -5
But I am criticizing Logan Paul for making an ignorant, ill-informed, statement for no other reason than to use his celebrity to further sow the seeds of bigotry and hate that currently pervade the USA in the name of making a hackneyed political statement that doesn’t even need to be made. And that's just it. Paul could make his statement, as colossally ignorant as it was, without saying "This is the purest form of evil unfolding right before your eyes." His intention was to spread further hatred to a criminally maligned group of people who just want to live their lives. Plus, the guy who went to an infamous suicide location, filmed himself laughing at the body of a suicide victim, and posted it on his YouTube channel for the entertainment of his audience that consists mostly of children and young teenagers really, really, really, really has no moral standing to call anything "the purest form of evil." The thing is... I think Logan Paul's intention was to get as many people engaging with his tweet as possible. Thus he said the most controversial thing he could think of. That's all he thinks about... how can I get people to pay attention to me. Unfortunately, that's the influencer life. If he has to "apologize" (another way to get more engagement.... thus, the "Oopsie" comment), so be it. The guy is savant in pro wrestling, but he will always be a complete and utter scumbag outside of it.
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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 2, 2024 9:35:35 GMT -5
Couple things:
-Totally get pointing out how "male DNA" isn't a thing and it's fair to tell someone to try and get all the facts straight before opining, but the poster who wrote that was seemingly trying to talk about the topic in a way they hoped wouldn't offend anyone, so let's at least extend him a bit of grace, even if it's fair to point out when someone really doesn't have the facts. That said...yes, "male DNA" is memeable, I get it.
-If anyone want clarity on "no politics" here, to me it's always been simple: literally everything we choose or do is political in nature, but what we don't allow here is explicit partisan political talk. Like, someone saying "I'm not watching WWE because of their Saudi Arabia deal" is a political statement, as is "I just won't watch the KSA shows", or "I'm going to watch, anyway". All of that is political, so it's not like we ban all political speech. And yes, discussion of the treatment of trans people or the absurd "trans panic" grift that's gripped some of the most reactionary and often bigoted voices out there is a political topic, as is discussion of the financial/business aspects of pro wrestling, we can go on and on. Again, though, what we're not looking for here is talk of who's voting for who in an election, in-depth political philosophy talk, that kind of thing. Can that get confusing and create a hazy line of what's acceptable and what's not sometimes? Yeah, it can. So, when in doubt? Talk to mods.
I lied, three things:
-Logan Paul @#$%ing sucks.
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salz4life
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Post by salz4life on Aug 2, 2024 9:37:44 GMT -5
I really don't like to comment on anything like this especially without knowing facts. She was supposedly born female but with male DNA. She may produce different hormones in her body which may give her a strength advantage over other biological females because of her biology. Most of what came out before was "She has male chromosomes so she should fight men." Then it came out she was born a female anyway. Do you punish her by making her fight men who still may be biologically stronger? Or shun her when she stomps other females? Tough subject. If i don't have all the facts straight I'm sorry, or if anything I said was offensive I'm sorry. Im not trying to be offensive. It's just as tough decision all around. From what I have read, she has lost like 9 times in her career. She's not some juggernaut that has been hurting opponents along the way. Hell, she didn't even medal in the last Olympics (where I don't remember anyone bringing this up, but I could be wrong about that). I understand the complaint of the elevated testosterone. But to turn this into a trans issue is just wrong (not saying you... just in general).
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Aug 2, 2024 9:41:01 GMT -5
And that's just it. Paul could make his statement, as colossally ignorant as it was, without saying "This is the purest form of evil unfolding right before your eyes." His intention was to spread further hatred to a criminally maligned group of people who just want to live their lives. Plus, the guy who went to an infamous suicide location, filmed himself laughing at the body of a suicide victim, and posted it on his YouTube channel for the entertainment of his audience that consists mostly of children and young teenagers really, really, really, really has no moral standing to call anything "the purest form of evil." The thing is... I think Logan Paul's intention was to get as many people engaging with his tweet as possible. Thus he said the most controversial thing he could think of. That's all he thinks about... how can I get people to pay attention to me. Unfortunately, that's the influencer life. If he has to "apologize" (another way to get more engagement.... thus, the "Oopsie" comment), so be it. The guy is savant in pro wrestling, but he will always be a complete and utter scumbag outside of it. I am not even willing to give him that level of benefit of the doubt. I think there was a more sinister motivation behind it. He was certainly trying to drive engagement and make money, but he said what he said in the manner that he said it for calculated political reasons. Obviously, this board has a no politics rule, so I'll just say that it is very clear that Logan Paul is trying to leverage his celebrity and notoriety amongst young people to influence a demographic that his preferred candidate does not otherwise appeal to.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Aug 2, 2024 9:42:35 GMT -5
I really don't like to comment on anything like this especially without knowing facts. She was supposedly born female but with male DNA. She may produce different hormones in her body which may give her a strength advantage over other biological females because of her biology. Most of what came out before was "She has male chromosomes so she should fight men." Then it came out she was born a female anyway. Do you punish her by making her fight men who still may be biologically stronger? Or shun her when she stomps other females? Tough subject. If i don't have all the facts straight I'm sorry, or if anything I said was offensive I'm sorry. Im not trying to be offensive. It's just as tough decision all around. From what I have read, she has lost like 9 times in her career. She's not some juggernaut that has been hurting opponents along the way. Hell, she didn't even medal in the last Olympics (where I don't remember anyone bringing this up, but I could be wrong about that). I understand the complaint of the elevated testosterone. But to turn this into a trans issues is just wrong (not saying you... just in general). One of the absurd comments I read on this was “Imagine if it was Kellie Harrington (top Irish boxer) they were fighting, would you defend them then if she got hurt?”… Harrington actually beat this woman on the way to winning a gold medal at the last f***ing Olympics, defeating the entire premise of their piss-poor bigoted argument!
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Post by lionheart21 on Aug 2, 2024 9:43:34 GMT -5
Couple things: -Totally get pointing out how "male DNA" isn't a thing and it's fair to tell someone to try and get all the facts straight before opining, but the poster who wrote that was seemingly trying to talk about the topic in a way they hoped wouldn't offend anyone, so let's at least extend him a bit of grace, even if it's fair to point out when someone really doesn't have the facts. That said...yes, "male DNA" is memeable, I get it. -If anyone want clarity on "no politics" here, to me it's always been simple: literally everything we choose or do is political in nature, but what we don't allow here is explicit partisan political talk. Like, someone saying "I'm not watching WWE because of their Saudi Arabia deal" is a political statement, as is "I just won't watch the KSA shows", or "I'm going to watch, anyway". All of that is political, so it's not like we ban all political speech. And yes, discussion of the treatment of trans people or the absurd "trans panic" grift that's gripped some of the most reactionary and often bigoted voices out there is a political topic, as is discussion of the financial/business aspects of pro wrestling, we can go on and on. Again, though, what we're not looking for here is talk of who's voting for who in an election, in-depth political philosophy talk, that kind of thing. Can that get confusing and create a hazy line of what's acceptable and what's not sometimes? Yeah, it can. So, when in doubt? Talk to mods. I lied, three things: -Logan Paul @#$%ing sucks. Yeah, the whole laughing at the "male DNA" thing is just us having a bit of fun, they meant no harm. It also helped give a bit of levity in a thread that was honestly getting kinda uncomfortable.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Aug 2, 2024 9:46:30 GMT -5
From what I have read, she has lost like 9 times in her career. She's not some juggernaut that has been hurting opponents along the way. Hell, she didn't even medal in the last Olympics (where I don't remember anyone bringing this up, but I could be wrong about that). I understand the complaint of the elevated testosterone. But to turn this into a trans issues is just wrong (not saying you... just in general). One of the absurd comments I read on this was “Imagine if it was Kellie Harrington (top Irish boxer) they were fighting, would you defend them then if she got hurt?”… Harrington actually beat this woman on the way to winning a gold medal at the last f***ing Olympics! And speaking of Kellie, she's also been accused of being trans by some random Twitter goober which is the embodiment of this discussion not even being about fairness in sports but about women who don't fit the image of the western ideals of womanhood, whatever the f*** that even means.
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Post by salz4life on Aug 2, 2024 9:48:22 GMT -5
The thing is... I think Logan Paul's intention was to get as many people engaging with his tweet as possible. Thus he said the most controversial thing he could think of. That's all he thinks about... how can I get people to pay attention to me. Unfortunately, that's the influencer life. If he has to "apologize" (another way to get more engagement.... thus, the "Oopsie" comment), so be it. The guy is savant in pro wrestling, but he will always be a complete and utter scumbag outside of it. I am not even willing to give him that level of benefit of the doubt. I think there was a more sinister motivation behind it. He was certainly trying to drive engagement and make money, but he said what he said in the manner that he said it for calculated political reasons. Obviously, this board has a no politics rule, so I'll just say that it is very clear that Logan Paul is trying to leverage his celebrity and notoriety amongst young people to influence a demographic that his preferred candidate does not otherwise appeal to. I'm sure that had something to do with it as well... but engagement is the lifeblood for these "influencers". Controversy equals engagement. Logan Paul was a noted scumbag even before this controversy. It's just another notch of a**holery for him.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Aug 2, 2024 9:51:02 GMT -5
I am not even willing to give him that level of benefit of the doubt. I think there was a more sinister motivation behind it. He was certainly trying to drive engagement and make money, but he said what he said in the manner that he said it for calculated political reasons. Obviously, this board has a no politics rule, so I'll just say that it is very clear that Logan Paul is trying to leverage his celebrity and notoriety amongst young people to influence a demographic that his preferred candidate does not otherwise appeal to. I'm sure that had something to do with it as well... but engagement is the lifeblood for these "influencers". Controversy equals engagement. Logan Paul was a noted scumbag even before this controversy. It's just another notch of a**holery for him. In addition to the political side of it, Jake Paul was making a big deal of it and offering the other fighter from Italy the chance to come fight on one of their cards. So it's just as much about drawing attention to their own promotions.
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Post by lionheart21 on Aug 2, 2024 9:53:25 GMT -5
One of the absurd comments I read on this was “Imagine if it was Kellie Harrington (top Irish boxer) they were fighting, would you defend them then if she got hurt?”… Harrington actually beat this woman on the way to winning a gold medal at the last f***ing Olympics! And speaking of Kellie, she's also been accused of being trans by some random Twitter goober which is the embodiment of this discussion not even being about fairness in sports but about women who don't fit the image of the western ideals of womanhood, whatever the f*** that even means. You are spot-on when it comes to them not seeing these women in their ideal image. Essentially to these people, if you are a buff woman or have more muscle mass than the average woman, you will get accused of being transgender. You can't reason with people like that.
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Post by lionheart21 on Aug 2, 2024 9:55:19 GMT -5
I'm sure that had something to do with it as well... but engagement is the lifeblood for these "influencers". Controversy equals engagement. Logan Paul was a noted scumbag even before this controversy. It's just another notch of a**holery for him. In addition to the political side of it, Jake Paul was making a big deal of it and offering the other fighter from Italy the chance to come fight on one of their cards. So it's just as much about drawing attention to their own promotions. Grifters like the Pauls essentially subscribe to the Vince McMahon philosophy of "Any publicity is good publicity." If they can get money for it, there is no depth that they won't stoop to, regardless of who they have to hurt in order to get it.
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