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Post by darbus alan on Dec 23, 2022 15:57:06 GMT -5
You can commit investment fraud and scam people out of money but don't you dare post hole picsAt this point, I'm guessing it's less posting those and more because it was happening without WWE getting a cut. Especially since it seems the whole "Mattel got Mandy fired" line of thought is looking like it isn't true.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Dec 24, 2022 2:47:43 GMT -5
The Paul brothers are absolute conmen and have been for a while, not sure why anybody would think they'd changed.
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Bo Rida
Fry's dog Seymour
Pulled one over on everyone. Got away with it, this time.
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Post by Bo Rida on Dec 24, 2022 9:12:35 GMT -5
What a great series, better journalism that many big media companies can manage. I find the whole area weirdly fascinating.
After a year of failing to address anything or respond to Coffeezilla Logan finally tweeted this.
Suspect Logan will just be another one of the scammers claiming he's the victim because he got outscammed by his partners.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Dec 24, 2022 9:30:46 GMT -5
A cryptoscammer? Nah. This guy? Who could imagine
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Post by polarbearpete on Dec 24, 2022 9:48:19 GMT -5
You can commit investment fraud and scam people out of money but don't you dare post hole picsAt this point, I'm guessing it's less posting those and more because it was happening without WWE getting a cut. Especially since it seems the whole "Mattel got Mandy fired" line of thought is looking like it isn't true. Everyone else has continued with their Twitch streams and OnlyFans type sites without issue. I’m pretty sure it was the content.
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Post by polarbearpete on Dec 24, 2022 9:49:23 GMT -5
What’s the gist of the scam for those that aren’t completely crypto-educated?
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Dub H
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Post by Dub H on Dec 24, 2022 10:45:00 GMT -5
What’s the gist of the scam for those that aren’t completely crypto-educated? Logan had s first scam that was the doing which was basically just tale the money and leave. This one is much deeper as all parties seemed to be scamming in different ways.Logan basically took money to make a game, didn't pay the developers and then when he couldn't deliver a game he just went silent. He also tried to manipulate the market to basically screw all other people investing by buying earlier than allowed ,black listing accounts and setting up for all of then to sell when it was more valuable
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 24, 2022 13:39:04 GMT -5
At this point, I'm guessing it's less posting those and more because it was happening without WWE getting a cut. Especially since it seems the whole "Mattel got Mandy fired" line of thought is looking like it isn't true. Everyone else has continued with their Twitch streams and OnlyFans type sites without issue. I’m pretty sure it was the content. Yeah, Mia and Dakota streamed just yesterday with Shayna. Twitch is still good with WWE, Mandy's content just passed a line. What’s the gist of the scam for those that aren’t completely crypto-educated? Logan had s first scam that was the doing which was basically just tale the money and leave. This one is much deeper as all parties seemed to be scamming in different ways.Logan basically took money to make a game, didn't pay the developers and then when he couldn't deliver a game he just went silent. He also tried to manipulate the market to basically screw all other people investing by buying earlier than allowed ,black listing accounts and setting up for all of then to sell when it was more valuable The man got advice from Curt Schilling?
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Dec 24, 2022 16:53:34 GMT -5
What’s the gist of the scam for those that aren’t completely crypto-educated? Okay so the main core of any crypto project and in this came every scam is tokens. There's two types of tokens in this scam. The Zoo token, which is the currency of the project; there's X tokens, usually an outrageous number of them, and based on the value of token, that's the total worth of the project. Then there are the egg tokens, which are meant to be what the game interacts with. These are NFTs, which aren't the currency but are instead the thing that the game will use; these are bespoke, individual tokens that will be generated as they're bought and have their own individual values. So in this situaiton, anyone who wants to play the game will need to buy the eggs because those are how the game is interacted with, but then will also want to and/or need to buy the Zoo token, which is essentially shares in the project for the players. The Zoo token has no value outside of speculation and marking the value of the project, but if the game worked, it would generate more of that token and people would be able to sell their zoo token off for money and generate income just by having the egg token. Instead of that, there was no game. They didn't pay the developers and the actual product launched "unfinished" and with none of the promised anything tied to the game. So on one hand, they all got ripped off on the surface level by buying the egg tokens that hold zero value or purpose because they don't serve the function they were sold on. Already a bad sign, except unlike the buy-in for an indie game on Steam that doesn't work, you're spending thousands of dollars to get the game that doesn't work instead of like ten bucks and instead of just not being able to play another roguelite with Metroidvania elements and 'an off-beat satirical sense of humour', this game was ostensibly supposed to serve as an investment opportunity that now you just will never be able to touch or access. Selling an investment that will never actually be an investment is, as you know, illegal and bad and a scam. Allegedly, they had new developers coming in to do work on it a few months ago, but then those new devs were also not paid, so it's likely there was just never going to be the means or motivation to really make this project happen. But then there's the other scam on top of that, which is the Zoo token launch, and this is where it goes from plausible deniability on the issue of not delivering the project to absolutely a sleazy pump-and-dump meant to just grab everything they could and make off with it. What they ended up doing was privately buying up the token before it launched. Because there was no traffic or official launch on it, all of the tokens were dirt cheap and they could buy up a huge volume of them before any real trading volume existed. This would then allow them to, once the project actually opened up properly, sell off their tokens at the height of demand at launch, and then be out of the project. This is the common tactic of scammers, who know the project will have no value and that speculation is the only worth of like any crypto project out there, and therefore getting out real fast at the top is the smartest way to move. The group even instituted rules on how much you could sell off at one time to not mess with project stability, which sure as hell looks like collusion to get out of their pump and dump. There's a lot of other smaller things to it all, like one of the people involved being a serial liar fraud-ing his way into jobs and another who betrayed the rest of the group on the pre-launch buy and then got dicked over by a relaunch seemingly just to close him out. Lots of petty stuff and smaller things not super worth explaining, but those are the big core two elements to it. People bought in to a game that didn't work and which has continued to not work with complete silence from Logan Paul about it while nothing gets done to fix it, and then the actual currency was gamed around and arranged in a way that would let them profit privately from people buying into it.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Dec 26, 2022 0:27:21 GMT -5
I sincerely hope that people start bringing "YOU OWE ME MONEY FOR YOUR CRYPTOZOO SCAM" signs whenever he appears at a WWE event.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 3, 2023 8:21:23 GMT -5
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Post by Push R Truth on Jan 3, 2023 8:25:01 GMT -5
R-Truth and his best friend Bigfoot comes out while Logan is in the ring, "PAUL HOGAN, YOU STOLE MY MONEY MATE! YOU PROBABLY GAVE IT TO SOME HUSSY OUTBACK ALLIGATOR!" Truth hands the mic to Bigfoot who says, "Grrrraaaaahhhhh!"
Logan Paul gets jumped by Little Jimmy and gets drug under the ring. He's never seen again. The end.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jan 3, 2023 12:40:42 GMT -5
The guy already has generational wealth, why even bother with this foolishness?
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Post by Dub H on Jan 3, 2023 22:01:44 GMT -5
his responde was basically throw accusations without evidence to try and make coffezilla sound like a phone to his audience.
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Bo Rida
Fry's dog Seymour
Pulled one over on everyone. Got away with it, this time.
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Post by Bo Rida on Jan 4, 2023 5:14:16 GMT -5
A rare case of a YouTube comment summing it up nicely, his response is essentially blaming Coffeezilla for not vetting the criminals he hired. Also calls his manager incompetent and ignores many of the allegations. Suggesting somebody else produced something just for the money is the height of hypocrisy.
Those that can see dislikes says he's getting ratioed badly.
Oh well, hope he follows through on his threat to sue, he'd then have to provide a lot more evidence for Coffeezilla to pick through.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jan 6, 2023 11:11:45 GMT -5
One of his lackeys on his podcast looks exactly like X-Pac, like exactly.
It's frightening.
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Post by dreidemy on Jan 6, 2023 14:14:21 GMT -5
One of his lackeys on his podcast looks exactly like X-Pac, like exactly. It's frightening. And also has an history with pornstars
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Jan 6, 2023 14:38:58 GMT -5
One of his lackeys on his podcast looks exactly like X-Pac, like exactly. It's frightening.
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Post by canceled4truth on Jan 6, 2023 14:47:01 GMT -5
I would pay good money to see Coffeezilla whoop Logan’s ass in a shoot
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 6, 2023 17:13:27 GMT -5
Logan will speak to a lawyer, be informed that discovery is a thing and he will have to turn over a LOT of incriminating evidence about his cryptoscams then run screaming as anything made public would be used in class action suits against him by those he's scammed over the years.
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