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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2022 14:04:19 GMT -5
HHH generally seems to be signing people he was using before Vince took/fired them. He kinda clearly wanted Gallows and Anderson to join earlier (Finn's entire NXT run were full of hints of them coming in) Bo Dallas's entire big NXT run was part of HHH's booking I think... (The last part of it especially) rehiring Bray and Braun just makes sense from a business perspective (in fact firing them makes no sense from a business perspective) Gargano and LeRae were big parts of HHH's NXT before he was kicked off... and Kross is someone HHH clearly sees something in cause he constantly pushed him as a world beater in NXT. The Kross one is still the most baffling of all. Even the NXT crowd hated him.. So does this mean that H is furiously pissed that he can't have Adam Cole? I feel like Papa H would make Britt the Lanny Poffo of the women's division if it meant he could get his favorite toy back
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Post by polarbearpete on Oct 10, 2022 14:05:36 GMT -5
HHH generally seems to be signing people he was using before Vince took/fired them. He kinda clearly wanted Gallows and Anderson to join earlier (Finn's entire NXT run were full of hints of them coming in) Bo Dallas's entire big NXT run was part of HHH's booking I think... (The last part of it especially) rehiring Bray and Braun just makes sense from a business perspective (in fact firing them makes no sense from a business perspective) Gargano and LeRae were big parts of HHH's NXT before he was kicked off... and Kross is someone HHH clearly sees something in cause he constantly pushed him as a world beater in NXT. The Kross one is still the most baffling of all. Even the NXT crowd hated him.. So does this mean that H is furiously pissed that he can't have Adam Cole? I don’t think there’s any doubt that Triple H would push Cole to the moon if he was available.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Oct 10, 2022 14:05:58 GMT -5
HHH generally seems to be signing people he was using before Vince took/fired them. He kinda clearly wanted Gallows and Anderson to join earlier (Finn's entire NXT run were full of hints of them coming in) Bo Dallas's entire big NXT run was part of HHH's booking I think... (The last part of it especially) rehiring Bray and Braun just makes sense from a business perspective (in fact firing them makes no sense from a business perspective) Gargano and LeRae were big parts of HHH's NXT before he was kicked off... and Kross is someone HHH clearly sees something in cause he constantly pushed him as a world beater in NXT. The Kross one is still the most baffling of all. Even the NXT crowd hated him.. So does this mean that H is furiously pissed that he can't have Adam Cole? He's probably at least pissed that Vince would just let his contract expire yeah...
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Post by Mecca on Oct 10, 2022 14:07:01 GMT -5
Cause when Braun Stroman kills an entire division by himself, they don't care...or when I see the same tag match 5434839 times. Triple H has been there for like 2 months. What tag match have you seen a million times in that time frame? And the Braun debut happened at the end of a 15-minute match, and didn’t do any damage to those involved. 1 guy destroying a bunch of tag teams, does damage, don't act like it doesn't.
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Post by Mecca on Oct 10, 2022 14:09:13 GMT -5
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Post by polarbearpete on Oct 10, 2022 14:11:46 GMT -5
Triple H has been there for like 2 months. What tag match have you seen a million times in that time frame? And the Braun debut happened at the end of a 15-minute match, and didn’t do any damage to those involved. 1 guy destroying a bunch of tag teams, does damage, don't act like it doesn't. A giant running through a bunch of tired tag teams didn’t do any damage. Are Alpha, New Day, Profits or Lotharios any less over or credible because of it? Not at all.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2022 14:14:19 GMT -5
All of my joking aside, Triple H has to know that while WWE is still the ratings juggernaut comparatively speaking, that cool factor that existed while NXT was running hot is long, long gone and AEW took that ball and ran with it by combining the best talent of NXT releases with the best of the American indy scene, the best of AAA, the best of ROH, and even a NJPW partnership to boot. Tony Khan did that with a lot of Hunter's boys.
That would have to make anyone a bit competitive, and I don't blame him for that. In truth, I don't even necessarily blame him for some of the blatant contract tampering that's been going on, because AEW isn't exactly innocent in that regard either.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Oct 10, 2022 14:14:34 GMT -5
Well I'm happy they won't be in AEW lol. They are so damn dull.
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Post by Mecca on Oct 10, 2022 14:15:43 GMT -5
Well I'm happy they won't be in AEW lol. They are so damn dull. As good as AEW tags are, they don't fit at all.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Oct 10, 2022 14:25:22 GMT -5
Anderson’s issues must have been entirely with Vince because when he left the first time, his social media gave the biggest middle finger to the company from anyone not named CM Punk.
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Post by Hypnosis on Oct 10, 2022 14:31:04 GMT -5
Well I'm happy they won't be in AEW lol. They are so damn dull. As good as AEW tags are, they don't fit at all. I also didn't like the Good Brothers getting unnecessary wins over Dark Order and Kazarian last year.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Oct 10, 2022 14:34:36 GMT -5
All of my joking aside, Triple H has to know that while WWE is still the ratings juggernaut comparatively speaking, that cool factor that existed while NXT was running hot is long, long gone and AEW took that ball and ran with it by combining the best talent of NXT releases with the best of the American indy scene, the best of AAA, the best of ROH, and even a NJPW partnership to boot. Tony Khan did that with a lot of Hunter's boys. That would have to make anyone a bit competitive, and I don't blame him for that. In truth, I don't even necessarily blame him for some of the blatant contract tampering that's been going on, because AEW isn't exactly innocent in that regard either. I think part of it is knowing/realizing that the main rosters need/needed huge overhauls due to years of being booked poorly. While there are some guys like KO and Sami who can recover from anything and be over, you're seeing people like Ricochet who are insanely talented but are struggling to regain that momentum. While I have my doubts that acts like Kross and Hit Row minus Swerve will get over, bringing people like Braun (despite being a moron) and Bray back are no Brainerd. But there are gonna be hits and misses. Having watched The Good Brothers a lot since they left WWE they have been very unmotivated for over a year really only seeming motivated for their feud with the Briscoes. So doing another faux Bullet Club feud (which they've also been doing for the better part of a year in both New Japan and Impact, while also being part of the Elite on AEW) may not go over as well as some think.
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Post by Mecca on Oct 10, 2022 14:43:32 GMT -5
All of my joking aside, Triple H has to know that while WWE is still the ratings juggernaut comparatively speaking, that cool factor that existed while NXT was running hot is long, long gone and AEW took that ball and ran with it by combining the best talent of NXT releases with the best of the American indy scene, the best of AAA, the best of ROH, and even a NJPW partnership to boot. Tony Khan did that with a lot of Hunter's boys. That would have to make anyone a bit competitive, and I don't blame him for that. In truth, I don't even necessarily blame him for some of the blatant contract tampering that's been going on, because AEW isn't exactly innocent in that regard either. I think part of it is knowing/realizing that the main rosters need/needed huge overhauls due to years of being booked poorly. While there are some guys like KO and Sami who can recover from anything and be over, you're seeing people like Ricochet who are insanely talented but are struggling to regain that momentum. While I have my doubts that acts like Kross and Hit Row minus Swerve will get over, bringing people like Braun (despite being a moron) and Bray back are no Brainerd. But there are gonna be hits and misses. Having watched The Good Brothers a lot since they left WWE they have been very unmotivated for over a year really only seeming motivated for their feud with the Briscoes. So doing another faux Bullet Club feud (which they've also been doing for the better part of a year in both New Japan and Impact, while also being part of the Elite on AEW) may not go over as well as some think. Look at the way Triple H handled being the talent guy, he signed everyone. His talent philosophy is to basically fill up the toy box till it's overflowing.
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Post by polarbearpete on Oct 10, 2022 14:46:29 GMT -5
I think part of it is knowing/realizing that the main rosters need/needed huge overhauls due to years of being booked poorly. While there are some guys like KO and Sami who can recover from anything and be over, you're seeing people like Ricochet who are insanely talented but are struggling to regain that momentum. While I have my doubts that acts like Kross and Hit Row minus Swerve will get over, bringing people like Braun (despite being a moron) and Bray back are no Brainerd. But there are gonna be hits and misses. Having watched The Good Brothers a lot since they left WWE they have been very unmotivated for over a year really only seeming motivated for their feud with the Briscoes. So doing another faux Bullet Club feud (which they've also been doing for the better part of a year in both New Japan and Impact, while also being part of the Elite on AEW) may not go over as well as some think. Look at the way Triple H handled being the talent guy, he signed everyone. His talent philosophy is to basically fill up the toy box till it's overflowing. That’s good for the company and good for the talent. The more high paying jobs in the business, the better. And hopefully Triple H will be better at using all the talent they are signing. So far, so good.
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Post by fw91 on Oct 10, 2022 14:49:54 GMT -5
meh.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Oct 10, 2022 14:51:28 GMT -5
Look at the way Triple H handled being the talent guy, he signed everyone. His talent philosophy is to basically fill up the toy box till it's overflowing. That’s good for the company and good for the talent. The more high paying jobs in the business, the better. And hopefully Triple H will be better at using all the talent they are signing. So far, so good. eh there are hits and misses which happens in every company. I also don't really mind signing a bunch of people. But also has to come with the understanding that not everybody is going to get over.
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Post by polarbearpete on Oct 10, 2022 14:53:58 GMT -5
That’s good for the company and good for the talent. The more high paying jobs in the business, the better. And hopefully Triple H will be better at using all the talent they are signing. So far, so good. eh there are hits and misses which happens in every company. I also don't really mind signing a bunch of people. But also has to come with the understanding that not everybody is going to get over. Oh yeah of course, I meant hopefully he’s better at actually using them on TV and not leaving lots of guys mothballed. Not every storyline and character will be a slam dunk and not everyone will get over, I’m sure.
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Post by Mecca on Oct 10, 2022 14:54:34 GMT -5
Look at the way Triple H handled being the talent guy, he signed everyone. His talent philosophy is to basically fill up the toy box till it's overflowing. That’s good for the company and good for the talent. The more high paying jobs in the business, the better. And hopefully Triple H will be better at using all the talent they are signing. So far, so good. The problem with that though is people will get lost in the shuffle and some guys are just frankly not very good. Like Bo Dallas and the Good Brothers aren't gonna do shit. I hope it works out I'd prefer it all wrestling I watched to be entertaining but so far I'm meh on the H run, the best thing he has going for him is he isn't Vince.
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Oct 10, 2022 14:59:34 GMT -5
The Kross one is still the most baffling of all. Even the NXT crowd hated him.. So does this mean that H is furiously pissed that he can't have Adam Cole? I feel like Papa H would make Britt the Lanny Poffo of the women's division if it meant he could get his favorite toy back So, she’ll be reading poems and tossing frisbees before her matches? #NewBoomPeriodIncoming
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Oct 10, 2022 15:31:57 GMT -5
Triple H is literally hiring everyone back that aren't under contract somewhere elese that was fired the last few years isn't he?
I mean it's good people are getting jobs but I just don't think having an overly bloated roster is good idea either. Then you have the problem AEW has or WWE had in 2018-19 where you have two big of a roster with not enough spots to go around and tons of people serving no role or purpose.
Bray Wyatt and Braun Strowman is one thing. However when it's getting to the point you are bringing back Bo Dallas and the Good Brothers you are just being a hoarder. Bo hasn't wrestled in three years and while I liked the Bolieve stuff that was eight years and I seriously doubt he's going to be useful in this point in anyways. The Good Brothers are two guys around 40 and they have a deep enough tag division with fresher and younger teams. Bringing back a team who got featured a good bit from a four year stretch not that long ago (2016 to 2020) who to be frank had outlived their usefullness to me just feels like a waste of time.
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