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Post by Raskovnik on Nov 11, 2022 20:34:52 GMT -5
I'm playing it right now and holy shit some aspects of this game are f***ing dire. Like these Asura fights? You've got to be kidding me, simply atrocious. This is a clip of me playing last night. Just a mess. Yeah, the Asura fights are... interesting. Running up the arm is one thing, but actually landing where you can do damage? Total crapshoot. I think you can use the stomp to finagle your way to where you want to be, but yeah, there's definitely momentum for days in this game. Also, I have no idea if this is intended (I couldn't find another way up so maybe?), but there's some spots where you can totally cheese your way up to some ledges. Like, nothing sequence breaking or anything, just some "I don't think that was intended" moments. It's incredibly frustrating because it's not like I don't know what I'm supposed to do, it's dead simple, the game just literally cannot handle it mechanically.
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Post by FinalGwen on Nov 12, 2022 3:58:44 GMT -5
Had enormous fun with the first two island zones, but finding the Chaos Island a bit more janky. It tries to mix in more 2D sections and as a result you can hit a spring and then be locked into a fixed camera and only one path, ending up going somewhere completely different than you wanted, which really messes with hitting precise objective locations. Also had enemies that Sonic just refuses to lock onto. I hope they didn't put all the dev time into the opening areas.
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Post by Raskovnik on Nov 12, 2022 6:05:57 GMT -5
I've spent a couple more hours on it and...this game is kinda dookie. Feeling that sting in my wallet from the purchase. It was wild that I had to "explore" this deranged landscape where it's just a thousand random jump pads and rails to find "memory tokens" for Amy and my reward was doing chores like herding those round things and pulling weeds
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Post by Malcolm on Nov 12, 2022 10:43:30 GMT -5
Maybe I'm just a simpleton, but I'm having a lot of fun just running around, hitting random springs and doing random platforming challenges.
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Post by Breadville on Nov 12, 2022 12:34:16 GMT -5
I've played the first little bit and I am enjoying it so far. It's not perfect, but it's fun enough. It's a whole hell of a lot better than whatever Forces was, that's for sure.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Nov 12, 2022 14:14:08 GMT -5
I've spent a couple more hours on it and...this game is kinda dookie. Kinda where I am... the more I'm playing the less I like it... the little annoyances just get bigger... don't know if I'd say I completely hate it but still...
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Post by Raskovnik on Nov 12, 2022 20:00:20 GMT -5
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Post by chrom on Nov 12, 2022 20:12:59 GMT -5
And the cycle is complete.
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Post by Malcolm on Nov 12, 2022 21:24:34 GMT -5
Frontiers seems to be getting overwhelmingly positives on Steam.
For comparisons sake, Forces got mixed reviews when it first released on Steam.
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Post by Malcolm on Nov 13, 2022 2:06:14 GMT -5
Playing through the game and seeing all the cool moments in the Wyvern boss fight made me realize how much I miss "Shonen Sonic" and how much I hate meta era "Mario Sonic".
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Nov 13, 2022 9:22:31 GMT -5
The director of this janky ass game just outright came out and said "I'm thinking of this as a global playtest." Thanks for the $60 beta, I guess? That already sounds like people are misreading it or misconstruing it like they did Inafune's "better than nothing" comment. The intent sounds more like that the feedback being given right now is something they can work on for future games. And given that the response is mostly positive, that's a sign that there might be more attempts at open world Sonic.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Nov 13, 2022 9:40:04 GMT -5
Also I'm enjoying it so far. Aside from some finnicky control issues, mainly in how easily you can veer across the screen in the portal stages and f*** up your run. But otherwise, I've found it to be just fine.
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Post by Malcolm on Nov 13, 2022 9:45:50 GMT -5
The director of this janky ass game just outright came out and said "I'm thinking of this as a global playtest." Thanks for the $60 beta, I guess? That already sounds like people are misreading it or misconstruing it like they did Inafune's "better than nothing" comment. The intent sounds more like that the feedback being given right now is something they can work on for future games. And given that the response is mostly positive, that's a sign that there might be more attempts at open world Sonic.
Looks like to be the case of sorts of things.
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Post by xCompackx on Nov 13, 2022 13:23:25 GMT -5
The "I'm paying for a beta" stance is a bit silly just because, I mean, isn't that how everything is? Not even just games, but say you buy a PS3, there's limits to the console that Sony improved on with PS4. Taking lessons learned from something and applying them to the next iteration is literally how the world works.
And honestly for Sonic Frontiers specifically, fix the pop-in, maybe tune in the combat a tad, and I think they've got a winning formula.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Nov 13, 2022 15:13:30 GMT -5
That already sounds like people are misreading it or misconstruing it like they did Inafune's "better than nothing" comment. The intent sounds more like that the feedback being given right now is something they can work on for future games. And given that the response is mostly positive, that's a sign that there might be more attempts at open world Sonic.
Looks like to be the case of sorts of things. Ummmm, I read through that article 3-4 times and the "translation" he's bitching about the "internet taking" is basically exactly how he wrote the article. I get that this is how games work now, hitting deadlines are more important then releasing a fully finished game due to how easy it is to send patches and updates, but people don't always like a shitty truth being waved in their face. Of course calling a full price release a "global playtest" is gonna go over like a fart in church, especially with a rabid fanbase like Sonic has. If the author of the article had simply said "Sure sounds like the director is going to listen to feedback and make improvements where he's able" it sounds alot better then bitching about people reading a direct quote and taking it at face value.
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Post by Malcolm on Nov 13, 2022 15:29:13 GMT -5
Looks like to be the case of sorts of things. Ummmm, I read through that article 3-4 times and the "translation" he's bitching about the "internet taking" is basically exactly how he wrote the article. I get that this is how games work now, hitting deadlines are more important then releasing a fully finished game due to how easy it is to send patches and updates, but people don't always like a shitty truth being waved in their face. Of course calling a full price release a "global playtest" is gonna go over like a fart in church, especially with a rabid fanbase like Sonic has. If the author of the article had simply said "Sure sounds like the director is going to listen to feedback and make improvements where he's able" it sounds alot better then bitching about people reading a direct quote and taking it at face value. I wonder in what context did he think "global playtest" would be considered a positive outside of an open beta?
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Post by Dub H on Nov 13, 2022 15:40:02 GMT -5
I watched the gameplay, enjoyed the story, seemed like a fun game.Of course there has to be endless bitching and fighting otherwise it isnt a Sonic game.
But having the Writer of the comics write Eggman was especially wonderful, he has by far the best interpretation of Eggman.Ian Flynn is the best part of Sonic right now.
Also, Tangle is Canon now!
I do think presentation wise the next version they do (which they likely will do) could use more of a Sonic aesthetic ,with more colors.
AND BRING BACK CHAO GARDEN COWARDS
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Post by FinalGwen on Nov 13, 2022 16:49:02 GMT -5
I watched the gameplay, enjoyed the story, seemed like a fun game.Of course there has to be endless bitching and fighting otherwise it isnt a Sonic game. But having the Writer of the comics write Eggman was especially wonderful, he has by far the best interpretation of Eggman.Ian Flynn is the best part of Sonic right now. Also, Tangle is Canon now! I do think presentation wise the next version they do (which they likely will do) could use more of a Sonic aesthetic ,with more colors. AND BRING BACK CHAO GARDEN COWARDS Honestly the aesthetic is my one big downside of the game, there's so much opportunity for visual flair and instead we're stuck with some really generic looking landscapes, especially how grey Chaos Island is. Seeing the Cyberspace levels with like, Sky Sanctuary in the sunset really makes it stand out.
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Post by Raskovnik on Nov 13, 2022 17:11:07 GMT -5
The director of this janky ass game just outright came out and said "I'm thinking of this as a global playtest." Thanks for the $60 beta, I guess? That already sounds like people are misreading it or misconstruing it like they did Inafune's "better than nothing" comment. The intent sounds more like that the feedback being given right now is something they can work on for future games. And given that the response is mostly positive, that's a sign that there might be more attempts at open world Sonic. I mean, is the implication I can't read and understand Japanese? That is my literal job. It says nothing about future games or projects, it says that there are issues with the game that people are pointing out, he's grateful for the feedback, and is treating it like a global playtest. The rest of it is stuff you and other fans added. It could just as easily mean they are planning on patching the game.
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Post by xCompackx on Nov 13, 2022 21:00:58 GMT -5
I watched the gameplay, enjoyed the story, seemed like a fun game.Of course there has to be endless bitching and fighting otherwise it isnt a Sonic game. But having the Writer of the comics write Eggman was especially wonderful, he has by far the best interpretation of Eggman.Ian Flynn is the best part of Sonic right now. Also, Tangle is Canon now! I do think presentation wise the next version they do (which they likely will do) could use more of a Sonic aesthetic ,with more colors. AND BRING BACK CHAO GARDEN COWARDS Honestly the aesthetic is my one big downside of the game, there's so much opportunity for visual flair and instead we're stuck with some really generic looking landscapes, especially how grey Chaos Island is. Seeing the Cyberspace levels with like, Sky Sanctuary in the sunset really makes it stand out. Of what I played so far, Chaos Island really seems like the low point in some respects. It's not terribly fun to navigate and yeah, kind of drab (the Super Sonic boss is incredible, though). But I dunno, for the first going of this open world concept, I like the more understated approach to the islands. Hell, Sonic Team has been trying to get a working day/night cycle in a Sonic game since 2006. In the future, I agree that I hope they go for more traditional Sonic vibes with the world. I'd love a revisit to Station Square or even that casino city from Sonic Heroes.
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