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Post by canceled4truth on Nov 8, 2022 9:26:38 GMT -5
I think Theory is one hell of a talent and could be the next Orton. That said, I HATE it when people cry "BERRIED!" but yeesh, that was bad. He can still recover, obviously, he's what, 25? But man, what a kick in the dick.
I do kinda feel bemused that HHH watched Vince cut or f*** up all of his NXT darlings, and the minute he got the book, he was like "Oh yeah? Watch THIS, old man!"
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Post by Susan "Poison" Candy on Nov 8, 2022 9:34:29 GMT -5
Theory is the biggest idiot of all time. He could have at least cashed in on the NXT title. "I'm Austin Theory and I'm the Biggest Idiot Ever." |
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Nov 8, 2022 10:21:03 GMT -5
That was for sure a burial lmao
But also we gotta remember the dude is only 25. Pushing him this hard so early was dumb anyway, so let him get some more experience and get the Vince stink off of him and just let him develop naturally. I do see some talent in him, like his ring awareness is great but he’s so generic and bland he’s got nothing of his own just yet.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2022 10:26:42 GMT -5
This feels less like a burial and more just HHH getting rid of another Vince booking decision.
I expect he still has his own plans for Theory but isn't ready to push him to a major title right now.
Not to say doing it like he did was not stupid it was immensely stupid but I think in the long term it will turn out to have been the better choice because I also think he will revamp in some way the beyond stale MITB concept and this gives him a chance to remove it from peoples minds for the time being.
Now I could be completely wrong and they just give Theory back the case...in which case(HA) this entire situation is even stupider.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Nov 8, 2022 10:44:37 GMT -5
It’s f***ing hilarious to me that in kayfabe Theory looked at how dominant Roman and Bron are (and probably Gunther too) and was like nope, I’ll just try Seth. At least he loses sometimes.
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Post by asuka007 on Nov 8, 2022 10:57:28 GMT -5
I resist the “they’re young” excuse. Like just because someone CAN maybe recover, does not mean that it still wasn’t a bad idea to do it in the first place.
The MITB situation will be messy as long as WWE is obsessed with Roman not being allowed to lose A match. No matter who has the case.
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Post by Bo Rida on Nov 8, 2022 11:20:47 GMT -5
I resist the “they’re young” excuse. Like just because someone CAN maybe recover, does not mean that it still wasn’t a bad idea to do it in the first place. The MITB situation will be messy as long as WWE is obsessed with Roman not being allowed to lose A match. No matter who has the case. Yeah this will stay with him and he'll have to work twice as hard to put together a body of work that eclipses it or go through a gimmick change. It's a pointless setback when even a failed cash-in on Roman could have been respectable. Also Rhea, Bronn, Riho, Jungle Boy, Wheeler Yuta, Mao, Garcia, Hook, Veny, Miu Watanabe and many more who are the same age or even younger. All have won titles and have (mostly) been treated as being important, it's hard to imagine any showing the equivalent level of stupidity/incompetence. |
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Nov 8, 2022 11:30:55 GMT -5
I resist the “they’re young” excuse. Like just because someone CAN maybe recover, does not mean that it still wasn’t a bad idea to do it in the first place. The MITB situation will be messy as long as WWE is obsessed with Roman not being allowed to lose A match. No matter who has the case. Yeah this will stay with him and he'll have to work twice as hard to put together a body of work that eclipses it or go through a gimmick change. It's a pointless setback when even a failed cash-in on Roman could have been respectable. Also Rhea, Bronn, Riho, Jungle Boy, Wheeler Yuta, Mao, Garcia, Hook, Veny, Miu Watanabe and many more who are the same age or even younger. All have won titles and have (mostly) been treated as being important, it's hard to imagine any showing the equivalent level of stupidity/incompetence. Roman completely neutered Theory on the mic back at MSG. Absolutely destroyed him. How does him then losing to Roman do anything but back up what Roman said? That's honestly when the Theory as top guy experiment ended for right now, especially given him losing last night. Were there other ways to do it? Sure. I just don't think they're going to go "welp, that's it, back of the line, kid." When stuff like this happens, there's typically some follow-up. Is he going to be on TV as much? Maybe not, but the guy was overexposed in the last year as it is anyways. This gives him a chance to continue to develop without being constantly under the microscope. I still think he's going to end up being one of the company's 10 top players in the next 5 years. |
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Post by Kalmia on Nov 8, 2022 12:06:36 GMT -5
Just caught up with the news on this and I don't really care that they buried Theory, but it kinda buried the MITB concept as well. If WWE didn't want to give Theory the title shot for whatever reason, at least give the case to someone else and do something with it.
They could have got a lot of mileage out of Sami with the case, for example. Have Roman order him to win the case and sit on it until it expires and you'd have drama every time Sami and Roman were in a ring together. They could have even orchestrated a way for Logan Paul to get the case and cash it in at Crown Jewel if they'd wanted.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Nov 8, 2022 12:07:21 GMT -5
Perfect example of a guy getting clowned and buried but who gives a f*** cuz he was straight buns and shouldn’t have been in the damn spot to begin with.
Balanced, as all L’s should be
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 8, 2022 12:08:36 GMT -5
If they were going to blow the briefcase like this they really should've had him take the pin at Clash at the Castle. At least he'd look less stupid and Drew would look like a bit less of a choke artist.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Nov 8, 2022 12:46:54 GMT -5
I resist the “they’re young” excuse. Like just because someone CAN maybe recover, does not mean that it still wasn’t a bad idea to do it in the first place. The MITB situation will be messy as long as WWE is obsessed with Roman not being allowed to lose A match. No matter who has the case. This is going to be his Billy Gunn King of the Ring. Doesn't matter what success he'll have, he'll always have this albatross for the rest of his career. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2022 13:07:15 GMT -5
Perfect example of a guy getting clowned and buried but who gives a f*** cuz he was straight buns and shouldn’t have been in the damn spot to begin with. Balanced, as all L’s should be People saying he shouldn't be in the spot... Why? He's good in the ring. Better than most. He's got good charisma and mic skills. He looks the part. I feel like "Theory sucks" is something a lot of people have just accepted because it's the popular opinion for no real reason. If this happened to some Indy darling who worked for New Japan, the IWC would be absolutely fuming. But because it's a WWE trained guy, they try to defend this bullshit career-killing booking to me. Keep in mind, the issue isn't the fact that he cashed in and LOST. He could absolutely recover from that. Hell, he could've even recovered from losing the briefcase to somebody like Owens. It's the fact that they made him look stupid as f*** by cashing in on a MIDCARD title, a title he's already held no less! Even if he won, he would look stupid for this. What character would turn down a shot at the biggest prize? A potential WrestleMania main event if he chose to hold it long enough? It makes absolutely no sense. They've had a howler here. This is up there with Low-Ki using his title shot for the IC Title. But at least that could be justified by saying "Oh, maybe he wasn't allowed to pick the World Title."... This? He will always be remembered for this. Congratulations WWE. You've just killed a promising young talent that had all the tools to be the next John Cena. |
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Nov 8, 2022 13:17:03 GMT -5
Perfect example of a guy getting clowned and buried but who gives a f*** cuz he was straight buns and shouldn’t have been in the damn spot to begin with. Balanced, as all L’s should be People saying he shouldn't be in the spot... Why? He's good in the ring. Better than most. He's got good charisma and mic skills. He looks the part. I feel like "Theory sucks" is something a lot of people have just accepted because it's the popular opinion for no real reason. If this happened to some Indy darling who worked for New Japan, the IWC would be absolutely fuming. But because it's a WWE trained guy, they try to defend this bullshit career-killing booking to me. Keep in mind, the issue isn't the fact that he cashed in and LOST. He could absolutely recover from that. Hell, he could've even recovered from losing the briefcase to somebody like Owens. It's the fact that they made him look stupid as f*** by cashing in on a MIDCARD title, a title he's already held no less! Even if he won, he would look stupid for this. What character would turn down a shot at the biggest prize? A potential WrestleMania main event if he chose to hold it long enough? It makes absolutely no sense. They've had a howler here. This is up there with Low-Ki using his title shot for the IC Title. But at least that could be justified by saying "Oh, maybe he wasn't allowed to pick the World Title."... This? He will always be remembered for this. Congratulations WWE. You've just killed a promising young talent that had all the tools to be the next John Cena. Yea, I don’t see it, haha. I think he’s a mediocre that would frankly struggle to stand out in NXT and got pushed WAY above his weight class. I really don’t see how he’s different than Alex Riley or Brad Maddox or any of the other mediocre middle of the road acts that WWE briefly gets obsessed with for no good reason before forgetting about them and letting them tumble down the card. The only thing with Theory is he can point to a regime change for his drop-off but dawg, you weren’t doing numbers when you were getting pushed, haha |
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Nov 8, 2022 13:17:44 GMT -5
My opinion's in the middle. He's only 25 so time's on his side and I don't think he sucks, but I also don't think he's anywhere close to being "the next Cena" or whatever Vince thought he had with him yet. He's good in the ring, but his promos are very samey and the only character I've seen him be able to pull off is himbo son of The Garganos. I honestly don't mind the idea of him and Corbin teaming up with JBL as their manager, he probably should be in a tag team right now.
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Post by sportatorium on Nov 8, 2022 13:23:26 GMT -5
This feels less like a burial and more just HHH getting rid of another Vince booking decision. I expect he still has his own plans for Theory but isn't ready to push him to a major title right now. Not to say doing it like he did was not stupid it was immensely stupid but I think in the long term it will turn out to have been the better choice because I also think he will revamp in some way the beyond stale MITB concept and this gives him a chance to remove it from peoples minds for the time being. Now I could be completely wrong and they just give Theory back the case...in which case(HA) this entire situation is even stupider. I agree with this. Theory with the case has booked them into a corner and this got them out. There are a lot more options on how to book him now. |
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Post by mc74 on Nov 8, 2022 13:24:50 GMT -5
I couldn't be any happier given he was Vince's pet project.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Nov 8, 2022 13:24:53 GMT -5
I mean why are we protecting the US title so hard?
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Nov 8, 2022 13:25:56 GMT -5
I mean why are we protecting the US title so hard?  Because The Tribal Chief doesn't wanna work Mondays! |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 8, 2022 13:26:05 GMT -5
Other than, "He looks handsome in an entirely generic way so long as he doesn't change his facial expression even slightly," I've never really understood what's supposed to be so great about Theory's look. Granted I also don't really think a look especially matters anyway since someone looking distinct doesn't magically make them interesting to watch.
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