Get in the ring at 9, get pinned immediately.

[Lizuka #BLM]

Why has WWE become so utterly obsessed with this awful finish? It feels like it happens at least once a week these days and it always just grinds matches to a screeching halt just to end them on a massive anticlimax anyway.

[CMWaters]

I mean, if it had happened at Summerslam 2010, we might have had a longer run of a certain stable...

["Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik]

That was definitely the worst one I ever saw. Dude jumped up immediately upon hearing 9.

[Mochi Lone Wolf]

Because everything in WWE must be contrived and overdone.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

The spring to life like you got branded in the ass with a hot iron to get in the ring just before 10 spot sucks and really always has sucked

Only time I actually remember liking it was when Cassidy rolled down the ramp as the count was happening, but it's just hard to make this spot seem not convoluted...

[ThankGodForSidJustice]

Hate it and don't get why they always do it. Either don't do it or just do the count out. They always roll in at 9 (and eat finisher and get pinned right after) anyways so it's like it's dramatic anymore. And it makes the loser look weaker when a count out would protect them more.

[Oh Cry Me a Screwball]

I don't get why everyone does the deal where they are dead at 8 and then spring up right at 9 to make the 10 count, whereas a gradual raise and still barely making the count can be just as dramatic, but doesn't involve blatant no-selling and is far more believable.

[Mozenrath]

Nov 8, 2022 2:35:57 GMT -5 Oh Cry Me a Screwball said:

I don't get why everyone does the deal where they are dead at 8 and then spring up right at 9 to make the 10 count, whereas a gradual raise and still barely making the count can be just as dramatic, but doesn't involve blatant no-selling and is far more believable.

It's harder to time, I guess, and I know WWE goes back and forth on if the referees will cover for the wrestlers if they screw up.

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

Nov 8, 2022 2:35:57 GMT -5 Oh Cry Me a Screwball said:

I don't get why everyone does the deal where they are dead at 8 and then spring up right at 9 to make the 10 count, whereas a gradual raise and still barely making the count can be just as dramatic, but doesn't involve blatant no-selling and is far more believable.

I don't know when this version of the spot started but I cannot express how much I hate it

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Nov 8, 2022 2:35:57 GMT -5 Oh Cry Me a Screwball said:

I don't get why everyone does the deal where they are dead at 8 and then spring up right at 9 to make the 10 count, whereas a gradual raise and still barely making the count can be just as dramatic, but doesn't involve blatant no-selling and is far more believable.

Someone crawling up and dragging themselves into the ring is way better psychology and a much better visual.

[chronocross]

Nov 8, 2022 2:35:57 GMT -5 Oh Cry Me a Screwball said:

I don't get why everyone does the deal where they are dead at 8 and then spring up right at 9 to make the 10 count, whereas a gradual raise and still barely making the count can be just as dramatic, but doesn't involve blatant no-selling and is far more believable.

I remember Cena used to do this a lot back in the day.

[asuka007]

Also Seth was down for WAY longer than Theory was. The ref just ignored that to start counting Theory out?

There has been some BAD officiating in WWE recently.

[Magic knows Black Lives Matter]

Nov 8, 2022 2:35:57 GMT -5 Oh Cry Me a Screwball said:

I don't get why everyone does the deal where they are dead at 8 and then spring up right at 9 to make the 10 count, whereas a gradual raise and still barely making the count can be just as dramatic, but doesn't involve blatant no-selling and is far more believable.

John Cena was infamous for this so kinda wonder if it’s a case of “this top guy did it so now you all must do it” type edicts.

[Hypnosis]

Nov 8, 2022 8:21:48 GMT -5 chronocross said:

Nov 8, 2022 2:35:57 GMT -5 Oh Cry Me a Screwball said:

I don't get why everyone does the deal where they are dead at 8 and then spring up right at 9 to make the 10 count, whereas a gradual raise and still barely making the count can be just as dramatic, but doesn't involve blatant no-selling and is far more believable.

I remember Cena used to do this a lot back in the day.

I feel like the trope did start with him.

[fg]

Not to mention, let’s say in kayfabe, the wrestler trips and fails to make it back in or if there is a botch of some kind that forces the ref to stop counting?

Yeah, I know the wrestler wants to rest up as much as possible before getting back in but come on.

[Oh Cry Me a Screwball]

Nov 8, 2022 12:29:26 GMT -5 fg said:

Not to mention, let’s say in kayfabe, the wrestler trips and fails to make it back in or if there is a botch of some kind that forces the ref to stop counting?

Yeah, I know the wrestler wants to rest up as much as possible before getting back in but come on.

At worst, it could come down to referee's discretion, with the ref pulling back the count in order to ensure a decisive winner to the match. Especially in a title match where the titles cannot change on a count out. So long as the wrestler being counted out can make it back in needed just an extra second or so, it wouldn't be too bad. Anything worse, you are better off rushing an authority figure or the wrestler that would be winning via count-out to get the match restarted.

[Vice honcho room temperature]

Nov 8, 2022 17:07:35 GMT -5 Oh Cry Me a Screwball said:

Nov 8, 2022 12:29:26 GMT -5 fg said:

Not to mention, let’s say in kayfabe, the wrestler trips and fails to make it back in or if there is a botch of some kind that forces the ref to stop counting?

Yeah, I know the wrestler wants to rest up as much as possible before getting back in but come on.

At worst, it could come down to referee's discretion, with the ref pulling back the count in order to ensure a decisive winner to the match. Especially in a title match where the titles cannot change on a count out. So long as the wrestler being counted out can make it back in needed just an extra second or so, it wouldn't be too bad. Anything worse, you are better off rushing an authority figure or the wrestler that would be winning via count-out to get the match restarted.

I remember watching an old ecw where Joey styles was yelling about how the refs hand touched ( basically grazed) the mat it should be three and that's not how it works. The mat slapping is a visual timing mechanism for the ref to show the crowd and wrestlers what's the count in kayfabe. Same reason the ref just doesn't count to ten in his head but does the arm raises

[lildude8218]

Oh, I thought this was gonna be about Riho.

[Banjo Is Broken]

Does nobody see the logic in maybe the wrestler is just using the count to rest on the outside and deliberately waiting as long as they can so they actually have more time to rest?

[Lizuka #BLM]

Nov 9, 2022 2:49:15 GMT -5 Banjo Is Broken said:

Does nobody see the logic in maybe the wrestler is just using the count to rest on the outside and deliberately waiting as long as they can so they actually have more time to rest?

The big problem with that idea is that usually upon instantly jumping back into the ring they immediately collapse again.