Miz/Gargano/Lumis/etc Saga

[Chiral]

OK I like to think I'm not (that) stupid, but this thing gives me a headache watching lmao did this need to be this convoluted? I guess on paper it's not super convoluted but...every segment it just feels like I'm getting high level science theorems explained to me. So Dexter got fired and Miz hired him to stalk him because he wanted attention but he didn't pay him or something and Miz denied this so Dexter stalked him for real and Dexter's father-in-law Gargano wanted him to admit this so Johnny hired a private investigator to get Miz to admit this and once he did they wrestled a regular match. I can't wait for the next twist in this epic.

[Lizuka #BLM]

Shout out to how people thought Johnny Gargano was being positioned to potentially beat Roman a few months ago and now he's the first dude Miz has pinned in 2022 not named Dominik Mysterio.

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Nov 7, 2022 23:17:03 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

Shout out to how people thought Johnny Gargano was being positioned to potentially beat Roman a few months ago and now he's the first dude Miz has pinned in 2022 not named Dominik Mysterio.

At this point the only thing that's gonna beat Roman is the heat death of the universe, and even that's about 50/50

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This has to win the wrestlecrap award if that still exists and it's been one hell of a year for the industry.

["Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik]

This is probably the dumbest storyline I've seen in a while. It becomes too stupid the moment you think even the slightest bit about it.

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Nov 7, 2022 23:17:03 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

Shout out to how people thought Johnny Gargano was being positioned to potentially beat Roman a few months ago and now he's the first dude Miz has pinned in 2022 not named Dominik Mysterio.

But he's got a universal remote

[kingoftheindies]

When Lumis first started attacking wasn't he originally going after AJ or am I completely misremembering? It felt like it was going that way to set Lumis as a heel but then it shifted for whatever reason.

Either way, I think Johnny and Dexter fall under a common issue/issues I've seen with bringing Triple H guys back. Either

A)They totally misjudge how over someone is outside of the CWC (which I don't think is the case with Johnny, but I also don't think he was near the popularity he was when DIY broke up, nor do I think he has gotten near that popularity since)

or

B)THey bring people back for the initial pop and then the question is okay now what. Now I've said this in the past, some of this isn't necessarily Triple H's fault completely as I also feel that many people (both in WWE and as fans) really underestimated how much most of the roster had been killed dead before Vince retired... and there's legit only a handful of people that can recover because they are just that talented.

[CMWaters]

Nov 7, 2022 23:48:13 GMT -5 kingoftheindies said:

When Lumis first started attacking wasn't he originally going after AJ or am I completely misremembering? It felt like it was going that way to set Lumis as a heel but then it shifted for whatever reason.

IIRC, while Lumis was there when AJ was in a match, Miz was also nearby at the same time (Lumis' first appearance was after AJ beat Miz in an extreme rules match, IIRC).

So while we thought it was going for AJ (And we had that fake attacker go after AJ), Lumis' target in story was Miz.

[kingoftheindies]

Nov 7, 2022 23:52:56 GMT -5 CMWaters said:

Nov 7, 2022 23:48:13 GMT -5 kingoftheindies said:

When Lumis first started attacking wasn't he originally going after AJ or am I completely misremembering? It felt like it was going that way to set Lumis as a heel but then it shifted for whatever reason.

IIRC, while Lumis was there when AJ was in a match, Miz was also nearby at the same time (Lumis' first appearance was after AJ beat Miz in an extreme rules match, IIRC).

So while we thought it was going for AJ (And we had that fake attacker go after AJ), Lumis' target in story was Miz.

Fair enough. Either way, I think my point after that still fits. I just don't think there was much thought put into everything. And while I generally believe that if you can get over in front of one crowd you can get over in front of any crowd, I do kind of think Dexter's antics worked better in a more controlled environment like the CWC

[Main Eventer]

I just don't understand why they went this way with the story. It would have been so much easier to have Gargano discover The Miz got Lumis fired and Lumis was getting revenge.

[CMWaters]

Nov 8, 2022 0:10:14 GMT -5 Main Eventer said:

I just don't understand why they went this way with the story. It would have been so much easier to have Gargano discover The Miz got Lumis fired and Lumis was getting revenge.

Maybe someone thought it was the best way that Lumis was able to get into Miz's house with ease? *Shrug*

[ThankGodForSidJustice]

Nov 7, 2022 23:17:03 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

Shout out to how people thought Johnny Gargano was being positioned to potentially beat Roman a few months ago and now he's the first dude Miz has pinned in 2022 not named Dominik Mysterio.

It's funny with Miz in that he's on TV so damn much that it's easy to forget that he loses all the time. I'm not a believer in the "wins and losses don't matter" motto but he's a case where it really doesn't. If you are constantly on TV with a lot of mic time and have a character type like he does it's not really an issue.

[Perd]

I’ve seen porns that didn’t feature this many gaping assholes and massive tools.

[Jonathan Michaels]

We STILL have no actual proof Miz even hired Lumis.

The whole interview last week had a vaguely sketchy vibe, and this week, we have a “confession” from Miz that isn’t really one, it’s a woman HIRED BY JOHNNY to lie to Miz and say if he “admits” to hiring Dexter, he’ll get a movie deal, all while secretly recording him, which as pointed out in other threads would be an ACTUAL CRIME.

I’ve been sitting at that table from the meme with a sign that says “The Miz is the babyface in this storyline, change my mind.” and everything Johnny has said and done has only strengthened my belief.

[msc]

Me each week - "Not more Miz, fast forward ten mins, oh ok, the crowd's still pro-Gargano."

Rinse and repeat.

[chronocross]

I lost interest in this storyline about a month ago, I usually change the channel when they're on now.

[Totorob101]

Iv not really been watching but this whole storyline sounds terrible and just as bad as a lot of stuff from the old days,from what iv been reading nothing much has changed under Hunter bar bringing back a lot of his old talent and a few tweaks to the shows.

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Nov 8, 2022 0:10:14 GMT -5 Main Eventer said:

I just don't understand why they went this way with the story. It would have been so much easier to have Gargano discover The Miz got Lumis fired and Lumis was getting revenge.

It's really that simple.

But if this sets up "Deranged Conspiracy Theorist" Johnny Gargano, I'm here for it

[dreidemy]

I still love this story and I think that everyone is playing their part perfectly

[Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story]

I feel like this was somehow supposed to involve Ciampa more but he got hurt and they're kind of just winging it. I think it'll come to an end soon.