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Post by griti kitty on Nov 15, 2022 22:19:32 GMT -5
Seriously though, Ronda being champ has made Mandy's reign go on forever. If Liv was still champ, Toxic would've been a perfect call up as a potential challenger. There's no spot now. Gonna need Shotzi to pull through.
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Post by mistery on Nov 15, 2022 22:23:39 GMT -5
Mandy and Alba do not work well together. None of their matches against each other have been good. Mandy took like zero real bumps in this match. And it felt rushed. Also NXT has SO MANY young women (a lot of them heels) who are stuck doing random crap because they refuse to take the damn belt off of Mandy. Mandy has anti-chemistry with a ton of women. Like...she's a champion who shouldn't be one at this point. It's baffling how she just doesn't click with 99% of the women on the roster.
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Post by asuka007 on Nov 15, 2022 22:25:29 GMT -5
There are SO MANY super-long title reigns right now. Roman, the USOβs, Bianca, Mandy, Jade, etc.
Long reigns are good in moderation. But it feels like overkill right now and itβs holding down the rest of the roster.
Especially since the only one where anything interesting is going on is Romanβs.
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Post by CMWaters on Nov 15, 2022 23:16:06 GMT -5
i will have to say, was nice to have an in-ring contract signing without a table spot. Those have been done since the Hogan/Andre one at Rumble 88.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Nov 16, 2022 0:40:54 GMT -5
What the f***?
WHO IS THIS
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 16, 2022 0:58:33 GMT -5
There are SO MANY super-long title reigns right now. Roman, the USOβs, Bianca, Mandy, Jade, etc. Long reigns are good in moderation. But it feels like overkill right now and itβs holding down the rest of the roster. Especially since the only one where anything interesting is going on is Romanβs. For the longest time weβd say that long reigns were better because it gave the belts more credibility, being a lot harder to win. I think though that itβs time to hot potato a couple of them for a year or two.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 16, 2022 1:00:14 GMT -5
What the f***? WHO IS THIS Lucky guess (if youβre gonna pull a name out of oneβs arse to cause interference, one of the other Scottish girls on the roster is a logical one), but Iβm still gonna hit them up for Lotto numbers.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Nov 16, 2022 1:05:39 GMT -5
What the f***? WHO IS THIS Lucky guess (if youβre gonna pull a name out of oneβs arse to cause interference, one of the other Scottish girls on the roster is a logical one), but Iβm still gonna hit them up for Lotto numbers. Gotta be one of Apollo Crews' other accounts.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Weather Machine on Nov 16, 2022 1:07:07 GMT -5
Womens Titless the prophet
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Nov 16, 2022 1:09:00 GMT -5
Also, π
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Post by griti kitty on Nov 16, 2022 2:05:10 GMT -5
I want some of the people who commented on Zoey's promo to post here.
"I was over with her, but this promo was one of the best in NXT this year, I fully understand her new character now and Iβm very excited to see whatβs next! Could save her career"
I refuse to believe this is a real person. But honestly, the clip of the promo was way better. Cut out all the rambling. Who decided to give Zoey a 10 minute promo.
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Post by Chiral on Nov 16, 2022 2:29:12 GMT -5
Also, π Same energy:
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Nov 16, 2022 4:58:31 GMT -5
Not going to lie I actually I had a feeling Isla was going to interfere and cost Alba the match. They've been wrestling on the house shows so it looks like a feud they've been planning and Gigi and Jacy not being there to give the illusion that Mandy that was screwed made it obvious that we were going to get a surprise appearance from another heel to cause a screwy finish.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Nov 16, 2022 5:07:18 GMT -5
I want some of the people who commented on Zoey's promo to post here. "I was over with her, but this promo was one of the best in NXT this year, I fully understand her new character now and Iβm very excited to see whatβs next! Could save her career" I refuse to believe this is a real person. But honestly, the clip of the promo was way better. Cut out all the rambling. Who decided to give Zoey a 10 minute promo. It was a really boring promo that dragged way too long. I will give them points for originality though. Turning heel because you are mad the fans are jacking off thinking about your tag team partner is not something I envisioned ever happening.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Nov 16, 2022 5:10:13 GMT -5
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Nov 16, 2022 5:23:55 GMT -5
Seriously though, Ronda being champ has made Mandy's reign go on forever. If Liv was still champ, Toxic would've been a perfect call up as a potential challenger. There's no spot now. Gonna need Shotzi to pull through. I get that there's no spot for them on the main roster but it doesn't explain why Mandy can't stay on NXT but without the title. They have a lot of young promising heels with Cora, Tiffany (whenever she's back), and now Isla. Would make more sense to get it on a face and then have the face transition it to one of those heels. You are right though that they missed the boat on not bringing them up while Liv was champion. Them bullying Liv which then would've caused her to go crazy would've been a much more natural transition to that character then whatever the hell they did.
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Post by griti kitty on Nov 16, 2022 6:10:19 GMT -5
Seriously though, Ronda being champ has made Mandy's reign go on forever. If Liv was still champ, Toxic would've been a perfect call up as a potential challenger. There's no spot now. Gonna need Shotzi to pull through. I get that there's no spot for them on the main roster but it doesn't explain why Mandy can't stay on NXT but without the title. They have a lot of young promising heels with Cora, Tiffany (whenever she's back), and now Isla. Would make more sense to get it on a face and then have the face transition it to one of those heels. You are right though that they missed the boat on not bringing them up while Liv was champion. Them bullying Liv which then would've caused her to go crazy would've been a much more natural transition to that character then whatever the hell they did. I don't even know what Mandy would do on NXT(besides a Toxic breakup) without the title. Her coming down to NXT was to reinvent herself, so if she stays after losing the title it would be weird. WWE also seems dead set on keeping the title on whoever they deem the top star right now. It's why we have so many long championship reigns and if they do lose the title it's just a storyline for them to get it right back(Liv/Ronda, Ziggler/Bron) I still think Zoey was the person to beat Mandy. The storyline was perfect and she could've had a short reign and lost the title to Cora, who then eventually dropped it to Roxanne to culminate their feud.
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Post by msc on Nov 17, 2022 6:01:16 GMT -5
Not going to lie I actually I had a feeling Isla was going to interfere and cost Alba the match. They've been wrestling on the house shows so it looks like a feud they've been planning and Gigi and Jacy not being there to give the illusion that Mandy that was screwed made it obvious that we were going to get a surprise appearance from another heel to cause a screwy finish. Bit Clash at the Castle. The henchmen aren't here, it's a fair fight, the heel will finally lo....swerve, here's another bad guy, status quo wins.
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Post by msc on Nov 17, 2022 6:03:47 GMT -5
There are SO MANY super-long title reigns right now. Roman, the USOβs, Bianca, Mandy, Jade, etc. Long reigns are good in moderation. But it feels like overkill right now and itβs holding down the rest of the roster. Especially since the only one where anything interesting is going on is Romanβs. For the longest time weβd say that long reigns were better because it gave the belts more credibility, being a lot harder to win. I think though that itβs time to hot potato a couple of them for a year or two. I've been quite consistent on this for the 23 years I've been a wrestling fan. (Christ, it makes me feel old writing that down!) - If all your title reigns are a month at best (see 1999) then your titles don't mean anything. - If every single reign is a massively long one, then massively long reigns don't mean much, because everyone is having them. There is a healthy medium in between. AEW struggled with it a year ago too.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2022 9:41:19 GMT -5
I have repeatedly said it but IMO the primary goal and intent of a super long title reign and I am talking 200+ days onwards is what I consider a super long title reign.
But the primary goal should always be to elevate everyone that challenges for the title and the division as a whole and quite frankly every single super long reign right now has failed at this and is why IMO they all need to end because they are doing way more harm then good.
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