El Pollo Guerrera
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His name has chicken in it, and he is good at makin' .gifs, so that's cool.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Nov 16, 2022 13:29:14 GMT -5
The team was OK, but the gimmick was not. Agree with the sentiment that it was pointlessly edgy. Nothing about the team felt like it had anything to do with weed 'culture'.
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Mozenrath
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 17, 2022 9:10:11 GMT -5
The team was OK, but the gimmick was not. Agree with the sentiment that it was pointlessly edgy. Nothing about the team felt like it had anything to do with weed 'culture'. I can at least buy that the two probably smoked weed. A lot of wrestlers in WCW did for pain relief and to ease anxiety. That's about it, though.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Nov 17, 2022 19:51:59 GMT -5
I was a big Adam Bomb fan but this team did nothing for me.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Nov 17, 2022 21:51:33 GMT -5
RVD loves them
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Post by Chris Legentil -- Mind Freak on Nov 17, 2022 23:14:30 GMT -5
Absolutely absurd gimmick and I'm so glad it happened. These two buff atomic superman like YEAH I LIKE TO PUFF A LIL IN MY FREE TIME despite having like absolutely zero weedhead vibes. Dudes always looked like they snorted 2 lines of coke through both nostrils at the same time and flared their noses like cartoon bulls, not smoked a f***ton of weed.
I will say tho, I think the chances that dudes weren't at least kinda potheads in real life at that point is very slim because both of them (especially Brian Adams) had horrible issues with chronic pain (dont u even) and had properly been through the ringer by 2000. Bryan Clarke had like just wrecked his ankle or knee before Kronik started up too.
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Post by sfvega on Nov 18, 2022 2:32:28 GMT -5
I kinda did. One of the only entertaining parts of the end of WCW was their tag division IMO. Kronik, Palumbo and Stesiak, Jindrak and O'Haire, Three Count, Jung Dragons. And as a fan of Clark, he really got short-changed by the oddly changing Adam Bomb gimmick and getting squashed by Nash when Wrath was gaining steam. Finally got his elusive midcard title.
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Post by ppl591 on Nov 18, 2022 2:51:40 GMT -5
As a kid I thought the kronik name was because they'd been around for years and chronically there and were making their own opportunities
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Post by nickcave on Nov 18, 2022 15:18:43 GMT -5
Does anyone know why they were so bad when they went back to the WWF? Brian Adams was there for years and Clarke was there for a little bit too so it wasn't like they were unfamiliar with the style.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Nov 18, 2022 15:25:02 GMT -5
I thought they were a fun badass team as a kid. I didn't get the weed references and now that I'm an adult, I'm still confused why they turned two gigantic muscle-heads into quasi potheads.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Nov 18, 2022 16:15:47 GMT -5
Does anyone know why they were so bad when they went back to the WWF? Brian Adams was there for years and Clarke was there for a little bit too so it wasn't like they were unfamiliar with the style. I guess maybe a combination of rust and the fact Clark was coming of an injury which had resulted in them being written off WCW TV. However the buyout then happened a month later. So from March until September they had only worked two or three matches. A squash of Kaientai on Smackdown and then I think one or two house show matchs which probably wasn't enough for them find their feet again. Also them against Taker and Kane was just a bad match up anyways. Kronik needed to be in there with guys who could bump around for them and get tossed around. Kane and Undertaker were even bigger then them so Kronik wasn't going be able do any of their impressive power spots. Obviously Undertaker and Kane weren't going to get any of the blame for the match stinking so Kronik got the heat for it and were gone right after.
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Post by sungod2020 on Nov 18, 2022 20:12:24 GMT -5
Does anyone know why they were so bad when they went back to the WWF? Brian Adams was there for years and Clarke was there for a little bit too so it wasn't like they were unfamiliar with the style. I guess maybe a combination of rust and the fact Clark was coming of an injury which had resulted in them being written off WCW TV. However the buyout then happened a month later. So from March until September they had only worked two or three matches. A squash of Kaientai on Smackdown and then I think one or two house show matchs which probably wasn't enough for them find their feet again. Also them against Taker and Kane was just a bad match up anyways. Kronik needed to be in there with guys who could bump around for them and get tossed around. Kane and Undertaker were even bigger then them so Kronik wasn't going be able do any of their impressive power spots. Obviously Undertaker and Kane weren't going to get any of the blame for the match stinking so Kronik got the heat for it and were gone right after. Was the match really that bad that it warranted them to be fired? Like not just pushed down the card, but straight up canned? Did management expect it to be a drama-fueled five star classic? When I saw the match, nothing about it seemed atrocious, they just seemed like they were going through the motions the whole time. Maybe I'm just not in the business to understand these things, but I don't think it was offensive or anything. Just...meh.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 18, 2022 20:41:43 GMT -5
Undertaker kind of always had these periods of time where it seemed like he wasn't willing to put in any effort unless it was to actively make people look worse and post-Mania 17 pre-Jeff Hardy ladder match was definitely one of those runs for him so yeah, I definitely wouldn't put all the blame on Kronik.
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Post by jason1980s on Nov 18, 2022 21:27:25 GMT -5
Adam Bomb and Crush were god awful in WWF and never improved in WCW even as Kronik. The gimmick was a bitter cooler for them and seemed to mask their weaknesses but they were still two guys who never seemed to improve. Maybe guys their size weren't meant to improve or be good wrestlers. I never got the weed reference and at close to 40 years old still don't. I always heard Crush was an Undertaker buddy so he and Bryan must have been pretty bad to be fired so quickly. I know the story goes they were to be sent to OVW for training but come on...they've been with major promotions for 10 years + and all those years later they are still awful in the ring? That's really on them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2022 21:28:12 GMT -5
They were great and should've been used better in WWE.
Taker around the Invasion angle sucked ass in the ring. He's largely to blame for that match.
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Post by XIII on Nov 18, 2022 22:34:13 GMT -5
Does anyone know why they were so bad when they went back to the WWF? Brian Adams was there for years and Clarke was there for a little bit too so it wasn't like they were unfamiliar with the style. Because Taker sucked balls in the ring during that era and I wouldn’t be surprised if he buried Kronik to Vince because they came over from WCW. Even if he was cool with Crush.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Nov 19, 2022 4:06:42 GMT -5
I guess maybe a combination of rust and the fact Clark was coming of an injury which had resulted in them being written off WCW TV. However the buyout then happened a month later. So from March until September they had only worked two or three matches. A squash of Kaientai on Smackdown and then I think one or two house show matchs which probably wasn't enough for them find their feet again. Also them against Taker and Kane was just a bad match up anyways. Kronik needed to be in there with guys who could bump around for them and get tossed around. Kane and Undertaker were even bigger then them so Kronik wasn't going be able do any of their impressive power spots. Obviously Undertaker and Kane weren't going to get any of the blame for the match stinking so Kronik got the heat for it and were gone right after. Was the match really that bad that it warranted them to be fired? Like not just pushed down the card, but straight up canned? Did management expect it to be a drama-fueled five star classic? When I saw the match, nothing about it seemed atrocious, they just seemed like they were going through the motions the whole time. Maybe I'm just not in the business to understand these things, but I don't think it was offensive or anything. Just...meh. I guess they wanted them to go down to HWA which was one of their developmental organizations either to help shake off rust or possibly as a way to give them an excuse to release them if they didn't want to go down. They apparently didn't take it well as with how long both of them had been around at that point I would imagine it hurt their ego. Clark refused to go and was released. Adams actually took the demotion but didn't last as he too was released like a few months later.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Nov 19, 2022 9:30:19 GMT -5
Kronik was a good power team and had a great presentation in wcw with the music, entrance and gear for the time. They had no real direction though. But I felt it was the best use of both wrestlers in years.
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Post by schma on Nov 19, 2022 9:47:31 GMT -5
I don't think I ever associate them with weed but I really liked them in WCW.
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Post by nickcave on Nov 19, 2022 14:17:19 GMT -5
Does anyone know why they were so bad when they went back to the WWF? Brian Adams was there for years and Clarke was there for a little bit too so it wasn't like they were unfamiliar with the style. Because Taker sucked balls in the ring during that era and I wouldn’t be surprised if he buried Kronik to Vince because they came over from WCW. Even if he was cool with Crush. Honestly, this is probably right. I think what happened was the WWF didn't pick up their contracts originally to begin with even though they weren't on Time Warner deals and Brian Adams pushed for Taker to try and get them hired and then he made Taker look bad when they had a meh match so Taker was pissed and complained. Also there was probably some leftover heat on both of them for leaving the WWF for WCW during the time before the WWF started beating WCW in the ratings.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 21, 2022 21:49:43 GMT -5
Because Taker sucked balls in the ring during that era and I wouldn’t be surprised if he buried Kronik to Vince because they came over from WCW. Even if he was cool with Crush. Honestly, this is probably right. I think what happened was the WWF didn't pick up their contracts originally to begin with even though they weren't on Time Warner deals and Brian Adams pushed for Taker to try and get them hired and then he made Taker look bad when they had a meh match so Taker was pissed and complained. Also there was probably some leftover heat on both of them for leaving the WWF for WCW during the time before the WWF started beating WCW in the ratings. I'm not sure. By the time they left, neither guy was really doing anything in the WWF, and they didn't really become huge players in WCW. Arguably, their peak came after WWF was already consistently winning, so there wouldn't be much cause to hold a grudge over it. I think it was more that WWF only really bothered to bring them in to work 'Taker, and when that failed, there was already a huge roster post-buyout, so not much reason to keep them. Adams did go to one of the WWF's developmental territories briefly after, so I wouldn't be shocked if they offered the same to Clark and he just said, "yeah, no thanks".
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