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Post by chazraps on Nov 27, 2022 21:29:18 GMT -5
Give her the belt. Between Ronda's shortcomings and f***ing Brian Kendrick returning to agent a match he had no business agenting, Shotzi didn't get to show what an amazing talent she is.
She's f***ing great.
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champchumpchange
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Post by champchumpchange on Nov 27, 2022 21:30:40 GMT -5
The women's division really needs a mid-card title rather than two world titles. Someone like Liv or Shotzi can get their experience with that belt rather than having mediocre-to-average matches on PPV/PLEs. So you think them having a belt would make them stop having terrible matches?
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Post by sportatorium on Nov 27, 2022 23:56:13 GMT -5
NXT.
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Post by defectiveepitaph on Nov 28, 2022 0:01:25 GMT -5
Materializing at parties and putting her arm around girls looking frightened by pushy guys trying to get at them. Probably claims to be yr wife if the dude absolutely won't leave even tho she doesn't even know what yr name is yet. "Now Libs what the f*** are you tal.." trust me You literally just described my gf.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 28, 2022 0:13:22 GMT -5
Shotzi:"WrestleMania, baby, OW OW OWWWWWW!" *cut back to 2012 Cody Rhodes* “Heh heh… awoo.”
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Post by poodoojenkins on Nov 28, 2022 0:27:20 GMT -5
She's just awful. Always has been.
And even more than awful, she is cringey. So unbelievably lame and cringey.
Whatever she does next, I hope I don't see it.
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Nov 28, 2022 1:44:18 GMT -5
I don't know what's next for her, but they need to book to her strengths.
She's fearless, and a daredevil. Work with that. She's not a wrestler, and she's not athletic. Stop trying to book her to be that.
Let her be your female Jeff Hardy/Darby Allin type...just a crazy person who will take any risk to win.
(And yes Hardy/Allin are athletic in their own rights, but that's not what they're known for)
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 28, 2022 3:49:02 GMT -5
Shotzi seems tailor-made for being the opening act on the card. The wrestler with the props and the thing they say/do and they're just gosh darn likeable and get you in the mood for a fun night of wrestling by beating up a dastardly heel. The kind of role that people like Jim Duggan or Santino Marella or R-Truth have served with distinction. Problem is, the show isn't structured as such yet to allow for a woman to be that person. Mostly because of the established time allocation and depth issues.
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Post by Bo Rida on Nov 28, 2022 5:26:31 GMT -5
DX superfan gimmick.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Nov 28, 2022 6:14:01 GMT -5
HHH has always loved her, so I think she'll keep getting TV time. I hope so anyway, because she cracks me up and genuinely puts me in a better mood when she's out there.
I think right now the best role for her is as the hot tag in a tag team, and there's nothing wrong with that!
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Post by Zombie Mod on Nov 28, 2022 7:08:35 GMT -5
dear god... do not let wwe get their hands on a fully functional time machine, we'll end up with attitude era vince russo booking & younger 80's/90's vince mcmahon taking control of wwe or worse... cyborg vince mcmahon who keeps stealing organs from people on the roster to replace his failing ones.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Nov 28, 2022 7:18:11 GMT -5
dear god... do not let wwe get their hands on a fully functional time machine, we'll end up with attitude era vince russo booking & younger 80's/90's vince mcmahon taking control of wwe or worse... cyborg vince mcmahon who keeps stealing organs from people on the roster to replace his failing ones. *Finn Balor is hosting a PLE from WWE New York* Finn: "That's right, Michael. First of all I'd like to thank everyone for this opportunity to speak to the rest of the world LIVE FROM NEW YORK CITY! But common sense brings to my mind one thing, but apparently no one else, that this 24/7 Title should be defended at that premium live event. That I, Finn Balor the 24/7 Champion, should be at Great Balls of Fire defending this title. God knows I've worked all my life to become the WWE 24/7 Champion, and what do I get for my efforts? I get to talk. Well, BIG WHOOPITY DOO! Huh, I hope I earned my keep today. How was that, Michael? Was my interview good enough for you, Michael? Huh? Am I a good enough champ for you, Michael? Because I guarantee you one thing: If I was there, I'd give a whole new meaning to the words (death metal voice) JUDGMENT DAAAAAY."
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Post by polarbearpete on Nov 28, 2022 10:30:54 GMT -5
Give her the belt. Between Ronda's shortcomings and f***ing Brian Kendrick returning to agent a match he had no business agenting, Shotzi didn't get to show what an amazing talent she is. She's f***ing great. Shes got the character work down, but she’s always seemed excessively sloppy/botchy in anything I’ve seen her do in NXT and the main roster. Can’t blame Ronda and Kendrick for all of the last few years. I think she’d work best in a tag team where she wouldn’t need to do as much.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Nov 28, 2022 10:34:18 GMT -5
I think I've suggested it a couple times, but a team with Lacey Evans and Shotzi where they both have the old pin-up model aesthetic might actually be OK.
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Post by champchumpchange on Nov 28, 2022 10:40:01 GMT -5
She's got an interesting look, but I really don't think she's good. Like... at all. She's shown nothing close to 'good' on her main roster run, and that ain't just booking.
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Post by sunnytaker on Nov 28, 2022 10:44:40 GMT -5
shotzi i always feel tries to do too much too fast. if she would slow things down some she would probably be much better ringwise. but as someone else said- as is she's the female jeff hardy/darby allin
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Post by Hypnosis on Nov 28, 2022 10:48:18 GMT -5
shotzi i always feel tries to do too much too fast. if she would slow things down some she would probably be much better ringwise. but as someone else said- as is she's the female jeff hardy/darby allin Shotzi should use the Cattle Mutilation again like she did on NXT.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Nov 28, 2022 14:33:29 GMT -5
Give her the belt. Between Ronda's shortcomings and f***ing Brian Kendrick returning to agent a match he had no business agenting, Shotzi didn't get to show what an amazing talent she is. She's f***ing great. Shes got the character work down, but she’s always seemed excessively sloppy/botchy in anything I’ve seen her do in NXT and the main roster. Can’t blame Ronda and Kendrick for all of the last few years. I think she’d work best in a tag team where she wouldn’t need to do as much. Ronda's pretty awkward in the ring herself these days, so it was just a bad idea putting them together. I think Shotzi's biggest issue is really just consistency. She'll have her sloppy performances, but she also has a match here and there where she looks OK. Some of her offense like her Tiger Suplex, Question Mark Kick and Cattle Mutilation actually look good. But yeah, tag matches where she's in there for short bursts are the best way to use her IMO. Her best matches in NXT outside of the one with Iyo were her tag matches with Ember, anyway.
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Post by champchumpchange on Nov 28, 2022 15:14:21 GMT -5
Her problem isn't consistency, as she's consistently terrible.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Nov 28, 2022 17:34:36 GMT -5
More training, hopefully.
Seriously, she is proof perfect of how terrible the PC is at training people from scratch.
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