CMWaters
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Post by CMWaters on Nov 28, 2022 16:16:40 GMT -5
So yeah, the Vulture outfit that would have apparently been worn by John Malkovich has been uncovered.
And of all people to have it, it's...Ken F'n Penders!?
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Post by schizo on Nov 28, 2022 16:18:47 GMT -5
That’s really cool
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 28, 2022 16:30:17 GMT -5
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Post by Cyno on Nov 28, 2022 20:10:54 GMT -5
How the f*** did Ken Penders of all people get this scoop?!
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Post by Malcolm on Nov 28, 2022 20:42:54 GMT -5
How the f*** did Ken Penders of all people get this scoop?! Going by the last few weeks, the universe has to be f***ing with us.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Nov 28, 2022 23:16:11 GMT -5
Not sure if this was really for Spidey 4... Raimi wanted Vulture to be the villain of Spidey 3 but Sony demanded Goblin and Venom.
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Post by Stu on Nov 28, 2022 23:19:42 GMT -5
.... Who the hell is Ken Penders???
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2022 23:33:38 GMT -5
.... Who the hell is Ken Penders??? Former Sonic The Hedgehog Archie comic writer. Well known for winning a lawsuit agaisnt Archie for the rights to his 1 million Knuckles recolor characters and the main reasons why SEGA wont uses Sally Acorn or any of the freedom fighter ever again.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Nov 28, 2022 23:42:41 GMT -5
That looks badass.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Nov 29, 2022 0:57:01 GMT -5
.... Who the hell is Ken Penders??? Former Sonic The Hedgehog Archie comic writer. Well known for winning a lawsuit agaisnt Archie for the rights to his 1 million Knuckles recolor characters and the main reasons why SEGA wont uses Sally Acorn or any of the freedom fighter ever again. Or re-release Sonic Chronicles.
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Post by Burst on Nov 29, 2022 6:59:15 GMT -5
.... Who the hell is Ken Penders??? Former Sonic The Hedgehog Archie comic writer. Well known for winning a lawsuit agaisnt Archie for the rights to his 1 million Knuckles recolor characters and the main reasons why SEGA wont uses Sally Acorn or any of the freedom fighter ever again. And somehow, after having actually won the rights to said characters and being given effectively carte blanche to use them for whatever he wanted independent of the Sonic license, managing to produce pretty much nothing aside from a few bits of... let's just say, impressively awful concept art.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2022 7:48:36 GMT -5
Former Sonic The Hedgehog Archie comic writer. Well known for winning a lawsuit agaisnt Archie for the rights to his 1 million Knuckles recolor characters and the main reasons why SEGA wont uses Sally Acorn or any of the freedom fighter ever again. Or re-release Sonic Chronicles. I legit forgot that Sonic Chronicles existed. Former Sonic The Hedgehog Archie comic writer. Well known for winning a lawsuit agaisnt Archie for the rights to his 1 million Knuckles recolor characters and the main reasons why SEGA wont uses Sally Acorn or any of the freedom fighter ever again. And somehow, after having actually won the rights to said characters and being given effectively carte blanche to use them for whatever he wanted independent of the Sonic license, managing to produce pretty much nothing aside from a few bits of... let's just say, impressively awful concept art. From what I understand. He owns the rights to his character but he legally can't have them in the SEGA style hence the very bad redesign of them.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Nov 29, 2022 8:00:03 GMT -5
Former Sonic The Hedgehog Archie comic writer. Well known for winning a lawsuit agaisnt Archie for the rights to his 1 million Knuckles recolor characters and the main reasons why SEGA wont uses Sally Acorn or any of the freedom fighter ever again. And somehow, after having actually won the rights to said characters and being given effectively carte blanche to use them for whatever he wanted independent of the Sonic license, managing to produce pretty much nothing aside from a few bits of... let's just say, impressively awful concept art. He spent a lot of time, effort and money making sure that nothing he ever touched as a creator will ever be revisited, and he gets to watch as his former colleagues get to write for games and animation, helping to shape the brand beyond the comics while he's a toxic headache who yells on twitter and acts like Zack Snyder without the fanbase.
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Post by FinalGwen on Nov 29, 2022 8:09:45 GMT -5
Or re-release Sonic Chronicles. I legit forgot that Sonic Chronicles existed. And somehow, after having actually won the rights to said characters and being given effectively carte blanche to use them for whatever he wanted independent of the Sonic license, managing to produce pretty much nothing aside from a few bits of... let's just say, impressively awful concept art. From what I understand. He owns the rights to his character but he legally can't have them in the SEGA style hence the very bad redesign of them. There are a ton of talented artists out there that have redesigned Sonic characters in different unique styles, trouble is as well as not wanting to move too far away from the status quo (hence why all of Knuckles' relatives look like him with an accessory) Ken's just not particularly good at art in general.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Nov 29, 2022 8:16:22 GMT -5
Or re-release Sonic Chronicles. I legit forgot that Sonic Chronicles existed. And somehow, after having actually won the rights to said characters and being given effectively carte blanche to use them for whatever he wanted independent of the Sonic license, managing to produce pretty much nothing aside from a few bits of... let's just say, impressively awful concept art. From what I understand. He owns the rights to his character but he legally can't have them in the SEGA style hence the very bad redesign of them. Gaze upon her loveliness and weep.
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Post by Burst on Nov 29, 2022 8:27:37 GMT -5
I legit forgot that Sonic Chronicles existed. From what I understand. He owns the rights to his character but he legally can't have them in the SEGA style hence the very bad redesign of them. There are a ton of talented artists out there that have redesigned Sonic characters in different unique styles, trouble is as well as not wanting to move too far away from the status quo (hence why all of Knuckles' relatives look like him with an accessory) Ken's just not particularly good at art in general. Agreed, I've seen plenty of artists do awesome things with the echidna characters themselves, where the style is far removed from the SEGA default but the characters are still clearly recognizable... I just also get the sense that none of said artists are willing to work for Penders. Alternatively, I'd also be willing to bet that Penders thinks he can do it all himself and wouldn't be willing to work with outside artists anyway.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Nov 29, 2022 10:32:51 GMT -5
There are a ton of talented artists out there that have redesigned Sonic characters in different unique styles, trouble is as well as not wanting to move too far away from the status quo (hence why all of Knuckles' relatives look like him with an accessory) Ken's just not particularly good at art in general. Agreed, I've seen plenty of artists do awesome things with the echidna characters themselves, where the style is far removed from the SEGA default but the characters are still clearly recognizable... I just also get the sense that none of said artists are willing to work for Penders. Alternatively, I'd also be willing to bet that Penders thinks he can do it all himself and wouldn't be willing to work with outside artists anyway. Or he'd reject good work and demand they be redrawn according to his model sheets in a pug faced house style.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Nov 29, 2022 14:15:28 GMT -5
I legit forgot that Sonic Chronicles existed. From what I understand. He owns the rights to his character but he legally can't have them in the SEGA style hence the very bad redesign of them. Gaze upon her loveliness and weep. "He dragged poor Anthony Mackie into this, didn't he?" *ding*
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Nov 29, 2022 15:21:06 GMT -5
There are a ton of talented artists out there that have redesigned Sonic characters in different unique styles, trouble is as well as not wanting to move too far away from the status quo (hence why all of Knuckles' relatives look like him with an accessory) Ken's just not particularly good at art in general. Agreed, I've seen plenty of artists do awesome things with the echidna characters themselves, where the style is far removed from the SEGA default but the characters are still clearly recognizable... I just also get the sense that none of said artists are willing to work for Penders. Alternatively, I'd also be willing to bet that Penders thinks he can do it all himself and wouldn't be willing to work with outside artists anyway. Probably a little of column A. and a little of column B. I wouldn't be surprised if some artists didn't want to work with him out of potentially angering Sega and not getting gigs from them eventually or just because Ken Penders is Ken Penders and has said some really uh.. unnecessary stuff. and B. Ken probably either doesn't want outside help, or has some insane contract demands with outside help. I still can't believe he won because Archie comics lost his contract... How the hell does a business that's been going since the 50's LOSE a contract.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 29, 2022 17:04:50 GMT -5
Neat.
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