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Post by Cyno on Nov 30, 2022 13:34:51 GMT -5
There isn't as much a taboo about R-rated comedies after the commercial success of some pretty prominent ones. So the comedies that want to push an envelope go for the R while the 'safer' movies go for a PG rating.
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Post by wildojinx on Nov 30, 2022 13:44:07 GMT -5
It's kind of like the early to mid-80s again where the majority of comedies were R-Rated. Of course, most of the R rated comedies now are much less cringey than a lot of the 80s ones.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Nov 30, 2022 16:03:54 GMT -5
Rob Scheider was a semi-popular comic actor. UNTIL ONE DAY!!! He started spewing anti-vax bulls*** and no studio wanted to hire him for anything outside cameos in Adam Sandler movies. Rob Scheider is NOT WORKING! (Rated PG-13) This deserves a hundred likes
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Post by chazraps on Nov 30, 2022 16:15:42 GMT -5
This reminds me of when in 2002 everyone thought the Western was hopelessly dead, then Costner has a huge hit the next year with 'Open Range' and suddenly westerns are not just viable but thriving artistically and commercially.
All it takes is one. These things are cyclical.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2022 16:16:22 GMT -5
It's kind of like the early to mid-80s again where the majority of comedies were R-Rated. Of course, most of the R rated comedies now are much less cringey than a lot of the 80s ones. R-rated 80's comedies mined either casual racism for jokes, or just showed you boobs.
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Post by jimmyjackezekiel on Nov 30, 2022 16:19:04 GMT -5
It's kind of like the early to mid-80s again where the majority of comedies were R-Rated. Of course, most of the R rated comedies now are much less cringey than a lot of the 80s ones. R-rated 80's comedies mined either casual racism for jokes, or just showed you boobs. You say that second part like it's a bad thing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2022 16:22:18 GMT -5
R-rated 80's comedies mined either casual racism for jokes, or just showed you boobs. You say that second part like it's a bad thing. Phoebe Cates can STILL get it, but I'm just calling it as I see it :-P
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Post by Cyno on Nov 30, 2022 16:39:04 GMT -5
This reminds me of when in 2002 everyone thought the Western was hopelessly dead, then Costner has a huge hit the next year with 'Open Range' and suddenly westerns are not just viable but thriving artistically and commercially. All it takes is one. These things are cyclical. Something that's been true of Hollywood for decades: they'll always chase perceived trends as long as one is commercially successful. One of the more recent examples was the MCU which introduced two big ones: well-done superhero movies and shared universes. Other studios have had mixed commercial and critical success with superhero movies. But I think it's safe to say that most attempts at shared universes have been dismal failures. Before that it was the 3D gimmick because of how well Avatar used it.
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Post by eJm on Nov 30, 2022 16:44:23 GMT -5
This reminds me of when in 2002 everyone thought the Western was hopelessly dead, then Costner has a huge hit the next year with 'Open Range' and suddenly westerns are not just viable but thriving artistically and commercially. All it takes is one. These things are cyclical. I sort of want to believe that's true but it also doesn't feel like that's how it works anymore. Nobody wants to take that risk to make an out-of-genre thing because even if it does get funded and made, it might be shoved into streaming or not promoted well just to get it over and done with. We're literally seeing it with stuff like Strange World with Disney right now. There is so much risk aversion and self-sabotage that it's lead to CEOs going to shareholders meetings and going "We're only going with core franchises now" and anything else that audiences might like that are different are treated like big streaming premieres which leads to people just thinking that's where that stuff will go from now on. Like, something absolutely could change and a rich CEO might fund something that's out of the norm but as long as safe makes money, safe will be where it goes.
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Post by Mecca on Nov 30, 2022 17:08:26 GMT -5
Comedies in general are dead at the moment, everything is franchises or psychological horror or some shit.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Nov 30, 2022 17:27:28 GMT -5
This reminds me of when in 2002 everyone thought the Western was hopelessly dead, then Costner has a huge hit the next year with 'Open Range' and suddenly westerns are not just viable but thriving artistically and commercially. All it takes is one. These things are cyclical. I sort of want to believe that's true but it also doesn't feel like that's how it works anymore. Nobody wants to take that risk to make an out-of-genre thing because even if it does get funded and made, it might be shoved into streaming or not promoted well just to get it over and done with. We're literally seeing it with stuff like Strange World with Disney right now. There is so much risk aversion and self-sabotage that it's lead to CEOs going to shareholders meetings and going "We're only going with core franchises now" and anything else that audiences might like that are different are treated like big streaming premieres which leads to people just thinking that's where that stuff will go from now on. Like, something absolutely could change and a rich CEO might fund something that's out of the norm but as long as safe makes money, safe will be where it goes. I think Strange World's failure can at least partly be put down to marketing. I saw some ads while watching the NFL and that's it. After Lightyear bombed, I think Disney had a feeling that Strange World wasn't going to hit so they did the bare minimum to promote it, with predictable results. Tepid reviews haven't helped either.
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Post by eJm on Nov 30, 2022 17:29:59 GMT -5
I sort of want to believe that's true but it also doesn't feel like that's how it works anymore. Nobody wants to take that risk to make an out-of-genre thing because even if it does get funded and made, it might be shoved into streaming or not promoted well just to get it over and done with. We're literally seeing it with stuff like Strange World with Disney right now. There is so much risk aversion and self-sabotage that it's lead to CEOs going to shareholders meetings and going "We're only going with core franchises now" and anything else that audiences might like that are different are treated like big streaming premieres which leads to people just thinking that's where that stuff will go from now on. Like, something absolutely could change and a rich CEO might fund something that's out of the norm but as long as safe makes money, safe will be where it goes. I think Strange World's failure can at least partly be put down to marketing. I saw some ads while watching the NFL and that's it. After Lightyear bombed, I think Disney had a feeling that Strange World wasn't going to hit so they did the bare minimum to promote it, with predictable results. Tepid reviews haven't helped either. That's basically what I'm saying. If it's not to a standard, it's not going to get attention and you train your audience to think of it as less. Like...Pixar was Disney's money maker and during the pandemic, they just decided they weren't worthy of going to theatres anymore so the audience were trained to look at Lightyear and wonder why that wasn't on streaming yet. It has an effect.
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Post by chrom on Nov 30, 2022 17:32:16 GMT -5
It's kind of like the early to mid-80s again where the majority of comedies were R-Rated. Of course, most of the R rated comedies now are much less cringey than a lot of the 80s ones. R-rated 80's comedies mined either casual racism for jokes, or just showed you boobs. And today's R comedies just do drug jokes or show you penis.
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