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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 1, 2023 3:02:53 GMT -5
CM Punk would be the type to shit on you if your favorite Pokemon wasn't exactly his out of the now thousand that exist. CM Punk must be a huge fan of krabby, hard outer shell, soft inside, prone to injury, fits him so well that he based his MMA fighting style on it. Perhaps he's also a fan of Grumpig
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Post by rajaah on Sept 1, 2023 3:34:37 GMT -5
I know he’s public enemy #1 at this point, but I’m racking my brain trying to remember when exactly public opinion/specifically my opinion shifted. I went from buying into his schtick from 2011-2012 (I even spent real human moneys on his New Nexus and gray badge shirts) to disliking him pretty severely to the point of watching him get smoked in UFC and laughing my ass off because he was a big baby bitch. It wasn’t the Cabana podcast (thought that was pretty based when it came out) but maybe the Colt Cabana legal fees mess did it. Then a few years later he had that Tweet about the Miz. Where were you when CM Punk goodwill was kill? This would be a really good topic to be its own thread. "What was the moment you stopped liking Punk?" The Miz tweet is particularly un-sung at this point, and probably turned a ton of people off. I think that might be the point where I realized the guy was...iffy. But I was also very much against WWE doing business with the Saudi regime, so I gave the tweet a pass. The backstage fight, and the lack of any kind of public apology, was when I was firmly off the Punk train, especially when his followers kept acting like he did nothing wrong and the Bucks conspired against him and all this other nonsense. When he started taking potshots at Hangman like ten months after that I went from "off the train" to "this guy needs to get help ASAP" Another thing that I think almost never gets mentioned: These guys Punk beefs with are all younger than him, some much younger. Punk's like 45, Hangman is like 32. Jungle Boy is what, 25? Normally the onus is on the older individual to show maturity.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Sept 1, 2023 3:57:53 GMT -5
for me it would be the scrum itself
i feel like a lot of people gloss over just how unhinged, crazy, unprofessional and vile that was with barely any warning. a lot has happened since then, a lot of really funny shit but involving someone’s mother in something like that, I don’t care if you’re my favorite wrestler you can f*** off
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Post by Mid-Carder on Sept 1, 2023 4:00:50 GMT -5
It's kind of hard to pinpoint as I still consider myself a fan of his when he's on TV and I've kind of always known he's not a very nice person. His feud with MJF is one of my favourite feuds ever. I guess it was the Scrum that made my dislike of him as a person overtake my love for him as a performer for the first time. And that distance has only increased since then.
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Post by dpg on Sept 1, 2023 4:03:11 GMT -5
for me it would be the scrum itself i feel like a lot of people gloss over just how unhinged, crazy, unprofessional and vile that was with barely any warning. a lot has happened since then, a lot of really funny shit but involving someone’s mother in something like that, I don’t care if you’re my favorite wrestler you can f*** off Yeah, the whole thing was petty bullying of colleagues in order to embarrass and humiliate them. Quite why he thought that would be acceptable I don't know.
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Post by rajaah on Sept 1, 2023 4:08:50 GMT -5
I still love that Danhausen, but him vanity search Punk and quote-tweet responding blue checks with less than 500 followers with a GIF (especially one of someone from an iconic sketch where the whole point is that the person himself is lying) is such a bad look - Does Danhousen not understand the point of the sketch? Is he just dumb? Yes.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 1, 2023 4:09:09 GMT -5
The moment I stopped liking Punk or at the very least soured on him was the scrum
I think for most people Punk before that was either a guy you liked, tolerated, or didn't like because of his cynical and grumpy attitude he outwardly showed. The Cabana stuff definitely didn't help his reputation, but almost everyone here was super happy Punk was here when he debuted, thought his return was a moment in time, and I still think it is. Even when things were going slightly off the rails with the Hangman feud, the injury, Ace Steel out of nowhere, the Moxley match delivered and people loved the ending. CM Punk had proven above most metrics he was worth signing, and was worth the investment
Until about 20 minutes after the match ended.
That was when a lot of public opinion about Punk changed, and when it came to FAN, he lost the room. I feel like IF he had apologized however, and made efforts to change what he did and how he acted there, even as late as when he was announced to return and did... he would have won some people back over who were holding out hope and still wanted to be fans of him or wanted the best for AEW... not only has he not done that, he has doubled and tripled down on his toxic attitude to the point idk how anyone can ever trust him anymore with all the sludge that's come out even in the last two weeks since he's come back
It's gone beyond CM Punk, several wrestlers people love and enjoy are now being drug down with him because now they have to publicly bat for him and embarrass themselves, others get banned from Collision, and then others get in y'know ACTUAL FIGHTS with him
It's just safe to say, whatever CM Punk was... was amazing, and he was one of the best of his era, and hell, he can still go, he can still be a top star in a company, he more than proved that after a long layoff and then two bad injuries, respect for that. Unfortunately, CM Punk's biggest enemy is himself, the only one he won't ever blame... and it's very hard to soot for a dude to want to stay here and succeed, when he seems to have somehow only gotten worse in attitude as the years have gone on, and morphed into the very thing he f***ing stood against in the first place.
I was someone who held out hope against it all for awhile and you can see how much it irked people, and there really were some parts in this where I thought a corner was turning and this would all eventually just die down and everyone in AEW could co-exist. I was very wrong, and CM Punk is quickly proving he needs to go. He was given chance after chance and then even given belts, his own vanity belt, his friend who bit a man on back pay, and power on the second new two hour show... and it wasn't enough, it will never be enough.
I do not know Phil Brooks the man... but what he actively projects and showcases? Wrestling does not seem like it agrees with him anymore, and it's really time to just end this before we reach some point of no return and Tony can't word salad his way out of it.
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Post by asellus on Sept 1, 2023 4:12:26 GMT -5
For me it was the UFC stuff, particularly with what he had said about older guys taking spots in wrestling and then doing the same damn thing in other ventures, but it was especially in the UFC since he performed like shit, twice, taking the spot that another fighter could have used and it soured me on him for a long while. Granted, I hadn't thought of him in ages till he showed up again in AEW and started doing stuff which I had hopes would go fine, but then the SCRUM hit and yeah, guy came off as unhinged.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 1, 2023 4:16:12 GMT -5
for me it would be the scrum itself i feel like a lot of people gloss over just how unhinged, crazy, unprofessional and vile that was with barely any warning. a lot has happened since then, a lot of really funny shit but involving someone’s mother in something like that, I don’t care if you’re my favorite wrestler you can f*** off Really does show how wonderful of a human Adam Cole seems to be that a bloodied CM Punk as his most unhinged, crazy, and vile, still said nice things about him in the midst of talking about how Colt shares a bank account with his mom and the Elite are dumb f***s who can't manage a target, while shotgunning Spindrift and mowing down muffins.
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Post by dpg on Sept 1, 2023 4:16:29 GMT -5
The moment I stopped liking Punk or at the very least soured on him was the scrum I think for most people Punk before that was either a guy you liked, tolerated, or didn't like because of his cynical and grumpy attitude he outwardly showed. The Cabana stuff definitely didn't help his reputation, but almost everyone here was super happy Punk was here when he debuted, thought his return was a moment in time, and I still think it is. Even when things were going slightly off the rails with the Hangman feud, the injury, Ace Steel out of nowhere, the Moxley match delivered and people loved the ending. CM Punk had proven above most metrics he was worth signing, and was worth the investment Until about 20 minutes after the match ended. That was when a lot of public opinion about Punk changed, and when it came to FAN, he lost the room. I feel like IF he had apologized however, and made efforts to change what he did and how he acted there, even as late as when he was announced to return and did... he would have won some people back over who were holding out hope and still wanted to be fans of him or wanted the best for AEW... not only has he not done that, he has doubled and tripled down on his toxic attitude to the point idk how anyone can ever trust him anymore with all the sludge that's come out even in the last two weeks since he's come back It's gone beyond CM Punk, several wrestlers people love and enjoy are now being drug down with him because now they have to publicly bat for him and embarrass themselves, others get banned from Collision, and then others get in y'know ACTUAL FIGHTS with him It's just safe to say, whatever CM Punk was... was amazing, and he was one of the best of his era, and hell, he can still go, he can still be a top star in a company, he more than proved that after a long layoff and then two bad injuries, respect for that. Unfortunately, CM Punk's biggest enemy is himself, the only one he won't ever blame... and it's very hard to soot for a dude to want to stay here and succeed, when he seems to have somehow only gotten worse in attitude as the years have gone on, and morphed into the very thing he f***ing stood against in the first place. I was someone who held out hope against it all for awhile and you can see how much it irked people, and there really were some parts in this where I thought a corner was turning and this would all eventually just die down and everyone in AEW could co-exist. I was very wrong, and CM Punk is quickly proving he needs to go. He was given chance after chance and then even given belts, his own vanity belt, his friend who bit a man on back pay, and power on the second new two hour show... and it wasn't enough, it will never be enough. I do not know Phil Brooks the man... but what he actively projects and showcases? Wrestling does not seem like it agrees with him anymore, and it's really time to just end this before we reach some point of no return and Tony can't word salad his way out of it. Punk never apologised for the scrum either, it's obvious he doesn't feel he did anything wrong whatsoever. That's why I feel bringing him back was a mistake. As someone who doesn't watch much AEW I can say he doesn't make me want to watch it, nor does he add much star talent compared to a fairly stacked roster. All he's done since returning is create more divisions backstage.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 1, 2023 4:22:39 GMT -5
The moment I stopped liking Punk or at the very least soured on him was the scrum I think for most people Punk before that was either a guy you liked, tolerated, or didn't like because of his cynical and grumpy attitude he outwardly showed. The Cabana stuff definitely didn't help his reputation, but almost everyone here was super happy Punk was here when he debuted, thought his return was a moment in time, and I still think it is. Even when things were going slightly off the rails with the Hangman feud, the injury, Ace Steel out of nowhere, the Moxley match delivered and people loved the ending. CM Punk had proven above most metrics he was worth signing, and was worth the investment Until about 20 minutes after the match ended. That was when a lot of public opinion about Punk changed, and when it came to FAN, he lost the room. I feel like IF he had apologized however, and made efforts to change what he did and how he acted there, even as late as when he was announced to return and did... he would have won some people back over who were holding out hope and still wanted to be fans of him or wanted the best for AEW... not only has he not done that, he has doubled and tripled down on his toxic attitude to the point idk how anyone can ever trust him anymore with all the sludge that's come out even in the last two weeks since he's come back It's gone beyond CM Punk, several wrestlers people love and enjoy are now being drug down with him because now they have to publicly bat for him and embarrass themselves, others get banned from Collision, and then others get in y'know ACTUAL FIGHTS with him It's just safe to say, whatever CM Punk was... was amazing, and he was one of the best of his era, and hell, he can still go, he can still be a top star in a company, he more than proved that after a long layoff and then two bad injuries, respect for that. Unfortunately, CM Punk's biggest enemy is himself, the only one he won't ever blame... and it's very hard to soot for a dude to want to stay here and succeed, when he seems to have somehow only gotten worse in attitude as the years have gone on, and morphed into the very thing he f***ing stood against in the first place. I was someone who held out hope against it all for awhile and you can see how much it irked people, and there really were some parts in this where I thought a corner was turning and this would all eventually just die down and everyone in AEW could co-exist. I was very wrong, and CM Punk is quickly proving he needs to go. He was given chance after chance and then even given belts, his own vanity belt, his friend who bit a man on back pay, and power on the second new two hour show... and it wasn't enough, it will never be enough. I do not know Phil Brooks the man... but what he actively projects and showcases? Wrestling does not seem like it agrees with him anymore, and it's really time to just end this before we reach some point of no return and Tony can't word salad his way out of it. Punk never apologised for the scrum either, it's obvious he doesn't feel he did anything wrong whatsoever. That's why I feel bringing him back was a mistake. As someone who doesn't watch much AEW I can say he doesn't make me want to watch it, nor does he add much star talent compared to a fairly stacked roster. All he's done since returning is create more divisions backstage. Exactly my point He not only didn't apologize, he basically did that Goofy meme, "I'll f***in do it again!!" And he did in fact do it again, he got into another backstage fight, this time at the biggest show of the entire year for AEW and really their whole existence And yeah, I'm tired of the wrestlers defending Punk, you can be friends with someone and acknowledge they're in the wrong, but they know they can't do that publicly with Punk and still be his friend (Or even be booked on a show potentially), so we get things like Danhausen actively tanking himself via vanity searching and not even using snide memes correctly. Or Dax and Cash where well... both have their own issues that have turned fans off to them. Like Punk's that Bart Simpsons cone graph where everyone around him actively deteriorates the closer they are to him. And now I need to make that a meme, one second.
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Post by Heartbreaker on Sept 1, 2023 4:23:46 GMT -5
I literally can't tell what is happening anymore. Anyway, I had bubble tea and they have Pokemon cups. CM Punk would be the type to shit on you if your favorite Pokemon wasn't exactly his out of the now thousand that exist. He would be a Genwunner. "THERE'S ONLY 151 POKEMON AND TOGEPI!"
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 1, 2023 4:25:04 GMT -5
CM Punk would be the type to shit on you if your favorite Pokemon wasn't exactly his out of the now thousand that exist. He would be a Genwunner. "THERE'S ONLY 151 POKEMON AND TOGEPI!" "Donphan was in the first movie! HO-OH'S IN THE FIRST EPISODE!" "DO YOU WANNA TAKE THIS OUTSIDE!?"
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Post by Heartbreaker on Sept 1, 2023 4:30:09 GMT -5
He would be a Genwunner. "THERE'S ONLY 151 POKEMON AND TOGEPI!" "Donphan was in the first movie! HO-OH'S IN THE FIRST EPISODE!" "DO YOU WANNA TAKE THIS OUTSIDE!?" "Back in the day we didn't have Pokemon that were ice cream." "But there was a Pokemon that was a pile of eggs."
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Post by spagett on Sept 1, 2023 4:32:39 GMT -5
Let's say Punk once again returns to AEW after his latest suspension and he does another long meta wink wink i'm back promo on collision probably burying Perry and the Elite again because why change the habit of a lifetime. Starks interrupts and they go right back to that feud.
We all know that won't be the end of it, we all know Punk isn't going to suddenly change and start behaving like a professional and stop leaking stuff to the dirt sheets and stop physically assaulting people. He's poison and I think there's something inherently wrong with him, he has severe anger issues. So sooner or later it will just happen again. He'll blow up again and Khan will have to suspend him again and he'll look even stupider for falling for it again.
Plus on just a practical level, they're surely running out of top level guys who Punk can even work with. Once the Starks feud ends then what? A logical feud is with MJF but it feels significant MJF hasn't mentioned or acknowledged Punk once he returned and there are rumours they don't get along anymore either.
Rip the band aid off now and begin the process of getting rid of him.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Sept 1, 2023 4:46:43 GMT -5
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Post by pinja on Sept 1, 2023 4:50:01 GMT -5
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Post by dpg on Sept 1, 2023 5:36:08 GMT -5
Let's say Punk once again returns to AEW after his latest suspension and he does another long meta wink wink i'm back promo on collision probably burying Perry and the Elite again because why change the habit of a lifetime. Starks interrupts and they go right back to that feud. We all know that won't be the end of it, we all know Punk isn't going to suddenly change and start behaving like a professional and stop leaking stuff to the dirt sheets and stop physically assaulting people. He's poison and I think there's something inherently wrong with him, he has severe anger issues. So sooner or later it will just happen again. He'll blow up again and Khan will have to suspend him again and he'll look even stupider for falling for it again. Plus on just a practical level, they're surely running out of top level guys who Punk can even work with. Once the Starks feud ends then what? A logical feud is with MJF but it feels significant MJF hasn't mentioned or acknowledged Punk once he returned and there are rumours they don't get along anymore either. Rip the band aid off now and begin the process of getting rid of him. He will and a lot of people won't want to get stuck with his baggage.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Sept 1, 2023 5:41:50 GMT -5
Let's say Punk once again returns to AEW after his latest suspension and he does another long meta wink wink i'm back promo on collision probably burying Perry and the Elite again because why change the habit of a lifetime. Starks interrupts and they go right back to that feud. We all know that won't be the end of it, we all know Punk isn't going to suddenly change and start behaving like a professional and stop leaking stuff to the dirt sheets and stop physically assaulting people. He's poison and I think there's something inherently wrong with him, he has severe anger issues. So sooner or later it will just happen again. He'll blow up again and Khan will have to suspend him again and he'll look even stupider for falling for it again. Plus on just a practical level, they're surely running out of top level guys who Punk can even work with. Once the Starks feud ends then what? A logical feud is with MJF but it feels significant MJF hasn't mentioned or acknowledged Punk once he returned and there are rumours they don't get along anymore either. Rip the band aid off now and begin the process of getting rid of him. He has mentioned Punk a couple of times but in the context of "I've beaten him" and FTR being attached to Punk. I would imagine it's less that there was a fallout and more like Britt in that he's loyal to Elite, given he's been AEW since day 1.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2023 6:08:23 GMT -5
I know he’s public enemy #1 at this point, but I’m racking my brain trying to remember when exactly public opinion/specifically my opinion shifted. I went from buying into his schtick from 2011-2012 (I even spent real human moneys on his New Nexus and gray badge shirts) to disliking him pretty severely to the point of watching him get smoked in UFC and laughing my ass off because he was a big baby bitch. It wasn’t the Cabana podcast (thought that was pretty based when it came out) but maybe the Colt Cabana legal fees mess did it. Then a few years later he had that Tweet about the Miz. Where were you when CM Punk goodwill was kill? This would be a really good topic to be its own thread. "What was the moment you stopped liking Punk?" The Miz tweet is particularly un-sung at this point, and probably turned a ton of people off. I think that might be the point where I realized the guy was...iffy. But I was also very much against WWE doing business with the Saudi regime, so I gave the tweet a pass. WWE’s Saudi sportswashing grossness aside, I think what made me greatly dislike that one was how Punk just seems to hate the Miz because he was more of a ‘superstar’ in WWE. Like he’s holding a grudge from WM 2011 or something. It just seems incredibly bitter and immature. And, might be more of a dig here, the act that he told The Miz to do could be seen as homophobic. Wouldn’t be the first time: e.g., calling some guy a slur and saying he has a vagina for le epic heel heetz at a house show… sure it was 2011 but I feel like it should have already pretty much understood how that shit wasn’t cool, especially for a big company like WWE.
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