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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 12, 2023 22:16:41 GMT -5
I don't believe Hangman Page was in the brawl This feels more like a ego issue. Hangman got his shot in with the promo and since then has been quiet. Punk got his shot back with the promo and beat him for the title. The fact Hangman hasn't been passive aggressive like The Bucks probably gets under his skin. At a certain point it is just about trying to take someone out their character which is probably what he has been trying to do to Page Yeah, Hangman took his one shot in one promo, they cleared it up, Hangman put him over, and since then Punk has buried Hangman in multile interviews, gone off on several public comments about him, and every time been met with nothing. I'm sure Punk is somewhere between "Keep pushing until you get a reaction" bully and "If you won't fight back I'll keep getting away with it so f*** it" bully but it's all ugly either way because there's nothing f***ing left now there's no reason for this. It is the JBL/Holly class of you're a bitch if you do nothing so I will keep pushing and when you do fight back, how f***ing dare you stand up to me Tho once again, Hangman did nothing Punk hasn't done and still is doing. Also, Punk got his lick back so that should have squashed it but because Hangman had the audacity to go first, Punk is going to drag it into eternity
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 12, 2023 22:19:28 GMT -5
I don't believe Hangman Page was in the brawl This feels more like a ego issue. Hangman got his shot in with the promo and since then has been quiet. Punk got his shot back with the promo and beat him for the title. The fact Hangman hasn't been passive aggressive like The Bucks probably gets under his skin. At a certain point it is just about trying to take someone out their character which is probably what he has been trying to do to Page Yeah, Hangman took his one shot in one promo, they cleared it up, Hangman put him over, and since then Punk has buried Hangman in multile interviews, gone off on several public comments about him, and every time been met with nothing. I'm sure Punk is somewhere between "Keep pushing until you get a reaction" bully and "If you won't fight back I'll keep getting away with it so f*** it" bully but it's all ugly either way because there's nothing f***ing left now there's no reason for this. I did think there could be a CMFTR vs Elite angle, and maybe there still is, but yeah I wouldn't bring it up unless it's actually gonna go somewhere If we see a BTE skit where a Hangman action figure is involved though, we'll know lol
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Post by IgnahtaSempria on Aug 12, 2023 22:20:18 GMT -5
Why not? Punk knows he won. He got everything he wanted. He got to come back with no punishment, he gets to be the focus of his own show where he gets to decide who wrestles on it, how it's booked, and how it's produced, and he gets to switch between babyface and heel whenever he wants while carrying the belt he was stripped of for throwing a public tantrum and starting a fight backstage. He knows Tony Khan isn't gonna do anything about it, he knows his hand-picked roster are gonna stand by him no matter what, and he knows his fans will call anyone who doesn't like it a "mark" who's "getting worked". He literally has nothing to lose. EDIT: And just to add on to this, this is the guy spent SEVEN YEARS being mad at The Miz for getting "his" Wrestlemania main event, and who dropped his best friend from his life for going to dinner with WWE friends during the Chris Amann lawsuit. He is EXACTLY that petty. Still think calling this a show Punk can do whatever he wants on with a "Handpicked roster" is bullshit when storylines constantly carry over between shows, as does talent I get that he has control over his program, which he did before regardless, but there isn't anything telling me Collision is just Punk's clique and everyone else must keep out. The only ones kept apart or have been have been Punk and The Elite, the ones with the apparent issue. And he does have everything to lose if he goes too far, we can act like Khan won't do anything, but Punk getting too comfy could end up biting him in the ass if he's not careful. You're safe and got it made until you go too far, and if Punk really f***s this up he will be the biggest dumbass on the planet. There have been multiple sources that have talked about how he frequently leads backstage meetings on "how we can make Collision feel different", which shows in how the show is paced differently. You say "oh, Punk only really has control over his own booking", but that doesn't really matter when ALL the main event angles revolve around HIM (BCG, Ricky Starks, Samoa Joe). And as for the roster? If he's not "hand picking" them, then it's VERY convenient that ALL the names he mentioned in his interviews are conveniently the focus of the show. It's VERY convenient that Andrade did an interview where he said that Punk was the REAL champion because he never lost the title BEFORE Punk brought out the bag. It's VERY convenient that, just today, Thunder Rosa uploaded a video on her socials of her going up to a fan in the front row of the Collision tapings who had a "CM Punk is not the real champion", RIPPED THE SIGN IN HALF, and then said into her own camera "he's MY champ". I know you want to see the best in AEW, but at this point, saying that Collision isn't "The Punk Show" is just turning a blind eye to the obvious.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 12, 2023 22:20:46 GMT -5
I hope we get another pic of Hangman at his hosue ready to put a piece of food in his mouth, with "He's still busy"
But it's also from John Silver again, he broke into Adam's house to take the picture
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Aug 12, 2023 22:21:56 GMT -5
Yeah, Hangman took his one shot in one promo, they cleared it up, Hangman put him over, and since then Punk has buried Hangman in multile interviews, gone off on several public comments about him, and every time been met with nothing. I'm sure Punk is somewhere between "Keep pushing until you get a reaction" bully and "If you won't fight back I'll keep getting away with it so f*** it" bully but it's all ugly either way because there's nothing f***ing left now there's no reason for this. I did think there could be a CMFTR vs Elite angle, and maybe there still is, but yeah I wouldn't bring it up unless it's actually gonna go somewhere If we see a BTE skit where a Hangman action figure is involved though, we'll know lol FTR vs. The Elite at Wembley and the direction inching toward Punk/Joe seems like final confirmation to me that this shit is never going to happen. The feud is not coming, the feud was never going to be coming, Punk is not signaling a feud or making any overtures with his character. He's just being a baby.
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Post by Dub H on Aug 12, 2023 22:22:30 GMT -5
Thread was too quiet, guess something had to happen lmfao Come on Punk you're doing absolutely fine in this run, don't f***ing get in your own way again especially right before Wembley Idk why it's Hangman Page of all people but the guy is just rent free in Punk's head. Hangman wasn't even involved in Brawl Out was he?? I don't believe Hangman Page was in the brawl This feels more like a ego issue. Hangman got his shot in with the promo and since then has been quiet. Punk got his shot back with the promo and beat him for the title. The fact Hangman hasn't been passive aggressive like The Bucks probably gets under his skin. At a certain point it is just about trying to take someone out their character which is probably what he has been trying to do to Page Nothing makes a Narcissist madder than being ignored.
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Post by markymark on Aug 12, 2023 22:23:04 GMT -5
Yeah, Hangman took his one shot in one promo, they cleared it up, Hangman put him over, and since then Punk has buried Hangman in multile interviews, gone off on several public comments about him, and every time been met with nothing. I'm sure Punk is somewhere between "Keep pushing until you get a reaction" bully and "If you won't fight back I'll keep getting away with it so f*** it" bully but it's all ugly either way because there's nothing f***ing left now there's no reason for this. I did think there could be a CMFTR vs Elite angle, and maybe there still is, but yeah I wouldn't bring it up unless it's actually gonna go somewhere If we see a BTE skit where a Hangman action figure is involved though, we'll know lol
At least FTR turning heel might happen imo because Cash doing the whole Hogan ear thing like Punk has done it since June was kinda ooc
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 12, 2023 22:23:24 GMT -5
Still think calling this a show Punk can do whatever he wants on with a "Handpicked roster" is bullshit when storylines constantly carry over between shows, as does talent I get that he has control over his program, which he did before regardless, but there isn't anything telling me Collision is just Punk's clique and everyone else must keep out. The only ones kept apart or have been have been Punk and The Elite, the ones with the apparent issue. And he does have everything to lose if he goes too far, we can act like Khan won't do anything, but Punk getting too comfy could end up biting him in the ass if he's not careful. You're safe and got it made until you go too far, and if Punk really f***s this up he will be the biggest dumbass on the planet. There have been multiple sources that have talked about how he frequently leads backstage meetings on "how we can make Collision feel different", which shows in how the show is paced differently. You say "oh, Punk only really has control over his own booking", but that doesn't really matter when ALL the main event angles revolve around HIM (BCG, Ricky Starks, Samoa Joe). And as for the roster? If he's not "hand picking" them, then it's VERY convenient that ALL the names he mentioned in his interviews are conveniently the focus of the show. It's VERY convenient that Andrade did an interview where he said that Punk was the REAL champion because he never lost the title BEFORE Punk brought out the bag. It's VERY convenient that, just today, Thunder Rosa uploaded a video on her socials of her going up to a fan in the front row of the Collision tapings who had a "CM Punk is not the real champion", RIPPED THE SIGN IN HALF, and then said into her own camera "he's MY champ". I know you want to see the best in AEW, but at this point, saying that Collision isn't "The Punk Show" is just turning a blind eye to the obvious. First part isn't a bad thing and has been to the shows overall benefit in it feeling different from Dynamite? And it's also resulted in several new talents getting over or being featured. Just because Punk's helping man the charge doesn't mean he's bad at it? The show's been beneficial and featured many more talents that aren't CM Punk, he has a big hand in the show, but he's not THE show. I look forward to like a dozen more things on Saturday that aren't CM Punk. If they're playing into the real belt thing who cares? If it's gonna be an angle where some believe he is, then so be it, that's a storyline that'll likely play out when the PPVs are over and doesn't bother me.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 12, 2023 22:25:36 GMT -5
I did think there could be a CMFTR vs Elite angle, and maybe there still is, but yeah I wouldn't bring it up unless it's actually gonna go somewhere If we see a BTE skit where a Hangman action figure is involved though, we'll know lol FTR vs. The Elite at Wembley and the direction inching toward Punk/Joe seems like final confirmation to me that this shit is never going to happen. The feud is not coming, the feud was never going to be coming, Punk is not signaling a feud or making any overtures with his character. He's just being a baby. I mean they did re-sign which gave me an indication that who knows, it could, but I'm not saying it's gonna, and maybe you're right and it just won't And with that in mind I do agree that it'd probably just be in Punk's best interest to not throw an ember onto the dying fire.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Aug 12, 2023 22:29:43 GMT -5
There have been multiple sources that have talked about how he frequently leads backstage meetings on "how we can make Collision feel different", which shows in how the show is paced differently. You say "oh, Punk only really has control over his own booking", but that doesn't really matter when ALL the main event angles revolve around HIM (BCG, Ricky Starks, Samoa Joe). And as for the roster? If he's not "hand picking" them, then it's VERY convenient that ALL the names he mentioned in his interviews are conveniently the focus of the show. It's VERY convenient that Andrade did an interview where he said that Punk was the REAL champion because he never lost the title BEFORE Punk brought out the bag. It's VERY convenient that, just today, Thunder Rosa uploaded a video on her socials of her going up to a fan in the front row of the Collision tapings who had a "CM Punk is not the real champion", RIPPED THE SIGN IN HALF, and then said into her own camera "he's MY champ". I know you want to see the best in AEW, but at this point, saying that Collision isn't "The Punk Show" is just turning a blind eye to the obvious. First part isn't a bad thing and has been to the shows overall benefit in it feeling different from Dynamite? And it's also resulted in several new talents getting over or being featured. Just because Punk's helping man the charge doesn't mean he's bad at it? The show's been beneficial and featured many more talents that aren't CM Punk, he has a big hand in the show, but he's not THE show. I look forward to like a dozen more things on Saturday that aren't CM Punk. If they're playing into the real belt thing who cares? If it's gonna be an angle where some believe he is, then so be it, that's a storyline that'll likely play out when the PPVs are over and doesn't bother me. You really went from "He's not doing those things" to "He's doing those things and it's good that he is" come on CJ. Sempria's comment isn't about nobody else but CM Punk being on the show, but we have known details about his involvement in the show on a production and creative level and continuing to argue against the idea he has influence is really weird. There are people who are going to inevitably see Punk's degree of influence over Collision as being him being rewarded and denying that it's there is a strange approach
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Post by Dub H on Aug 12, 2023 22:29:49 GMT -5
![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3YRWILWsAAhktt?format=jpg&name=small) I assume this was the reason.
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Post by Chiral on Aug 12, 2023 22:30:43 GMT -5
October 2023: Moxley getting a text from TK an hour after Punk got into a shoot fight with Buddy Matthews and blamed Hangman for it and abruptly quit the company - ![](https://media.tenor.com/wBFutbw6K3cAAAAd/jon-moxley-jon-moxley-sad.gif)
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Post by Dub H on Aug 12, 2023 22:32:18 GMT -5
October 2023: Moxley getting a text from TK an hour after Punk got into a shoot fight with Buddy Matthews and blamed Hangman for it and abruptly quit the company - ![](https://media.tenor.com/wBFutbw6K3cAAAAd/jon-moxley-jon-moxley-sad.gif) January 2024: TK rehires Punk ,including a raise and firing Buddy Matthews, says it will be really good for the roster and that fans missed him
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Post by lionheart21 on Aug 12, 2023 22:33:52 GMT -5
October 2023: Moxley getting a text from TK an hour after Punk got into a shoot fight with Buddy Matthews and blamed Hangman for it and abruptly quit the company - ![](https://media.tenor.com/wBFutbw6K3cAAAAd/jon-moxley-jon-moxley-sad.gif) January 2024: TK rehires Punk ,including a raise and firing Buddy Matthews, says it will be really good for the roster and that fans missed him Later that day: TK quickly rehires Buddy after remembering who Buddy is now engaged to.
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Post by Kalmia on Aug 12, 2023 22:36:49 GMT -5
This is probably why Mox hasn't booked that vacation yet. He's worried that the second he books it, shit will hit the fan again and he'll have to cancel. He doesn't want to tempt fate.
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Post by Nosnorb on Aug 12, 2023 22:36:49 GMT -5
October 2023: Moxley getting a text from TK an hour after Punk got into a shoot fight with Buddy Matthews and blamed Hangman for it and abruptly quit the company - ![](https://media.tenor.com/wBFutbw6K3cAAAAd/jon-moxley-jon-moxley-sad.gif) January 2024: TK rehires Punk ,including a raise and firing Buddy Matthews, says it will be really good for the roster and that fans missed him 10 minutes later, a thread titled "Tony Khan has ascended into Bitchhalla" is started on this board.
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Post by chazraps on Aug 12, 2023 22:36:49 GMT -5
2014: Even in the WWE's hottest market, New York City, the WWE toy sections were row after row of unsold Punk and Del Rio figures. The small, the large, just absolute dusty dwellers that were there until the store ultimately sent them back.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Aug 12, 2023 22:38:33 GMT -5
The year is 2043. Due to AI taking over our jobs, your only viable career path is Elon Musk Reply Guy, due to it being a task so demeaning that once they took over the machines refused to do it anymore, and it become one of the only paying jobs left. You finish your shift of laughing at his reposted memes and astroturfing Tesla PR campaigns to paper over that their self-driving feature is still causing accidents to tune in to AEW Saturday Night Tesla, which changed its name after Elon Musk successfully banned collision and related words to cover up that their self-driving feature is still causing accidents. Cyborg Man Punk beats Ethan Carter the 5th in a squash match, grabs a live mic, and starts calling out The Young Young Bucks and El Hijo Del Hangman Page as being weak baby men. FAN, whose main board is now for discussion of Faith No More tribute acts, still has a small, devoted wrestling section. You see in the all purpose live thread--because wrestling is now so niche on here that it's like the Impact superthread--that people are excited for this sign that for sure this time really The Elite vs. CMFTR is going to happen.
Dave Meltzer's brain in a jar hooked up to a voice box says the next day that that was a shoot, no plans are in place, and that Chris Jericho's clone has been doing very well since coming out of the vat and is almost ring-ready.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 12, 2023 22:41:45 GMT -5
First part isn't a bad thing and has been to the shows overall benefit in it feeling different from Dynamite? And it's also resulted in several new talents getting over or being featured. Just because Punk's helping man the charge doesn't mean he's bad at it? The show's been beneficial and featured many more talents that aren't CM Punk, he has a big hand in the show, but he's not THE show. I look forward to like a dozen more things on Saturday that aren't CM Punk. If they're playing into the real belt thing who cares? If it's gonna be an angle where some believe he is, then so be it, that's a storyline that'll likely play out when the PPVs are over and doesn't bother me. You really went from "He's not doing those things" to "He's doing those things and it's good that he is" come on CJ. Sempria's comment isn't about nobody else but CM Punk being on the show, but we have known details about his involvement in the show on a production and creative level and continuing to argue against the idea he has influence is really weird. There are people who are going to inevitably see Punk's degree of influence over Collision as being him being rewarded and denying that it's there is a strange approach I was more trying to convey that he has absolute control over everything seems a tad BS, him having input and having some say in things was always reported and I have never once denied that What I have contested is he can do whatever he wants, whenever he wants, has zero pushback, and the only people that are on the show are people he likes. I think that's projection on hating the guy and giving him way too much credit tbh I have never once denied that it's there, I have contested the hyperbolic responses to what he actually seemingly does or can do there. None of us are actually there to know the extent of that, but I have never once said he doesn't have some sort of pull with his storylines or isn't a veteran presence trying to make the show feel different.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 12, 2023 22:43:10 GMT -5
The year is 2043. Due to AI taking over our jobs, your only viable career path is Elon Musk Reply Guy, due to it being a task so demeaning that once they took over the machines refused to do it anymore, and it become one of the only paying jobs left. You finish your shift of laughing at his reposted memes and astroturfing Tesla PR campaigns to paper over that their self-driving feature is still causing accidents to tune in to AEW Saturday Night Tesla, which changed its name after Elon Musk successfully banned collision and related words to cover up that their self-driving feature is still causing accidents. Cyborg Man Punk beats Ethan Carter the 5th in a squash match, grabs a live mic, and starts calling out The Young Young Bucks and El Hijo Del Hangman Page as being weak baby men. FAN, whose main board is now for discussion of Faith No More tribute acts, still has a small, devoted wrestling section. You see in the all purpose live thread--because wrestling is now so niche on here that it's like the Impact superthread--that people are excited for this sign that for sure this time really The Elite vs. CMFTR is going to happen. Dave Meltzer's brain in a jar hooked up to a voice box says the next day that that was a shoot, no plans are in place, and that Chris Jericho's clone has been doing very well since coming out of the vat and is almost ring-ready. At least we know that in 2043, Alex Marvez will have assembled his eldritch demon army to lead the uprising to bring the world into a new age of the blood harvest.
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