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Post by darbus alan on Dec 14, 2022 16:36:34 GMT -5
It is kind of funny the people on this board taking a hardline stance about normalizing sex work but if you were to post any of the stuff that got her fired on here, you’d be banned FAN is a publicly accessible board that minors are allowed to legally post on and not everyone who posts on here would want to see explicit pics. OnlyFans is a strictly subscription-based site for only adults where you have to have a valid credit card to even see the free content. Trying too hard with the "but you participate in society!" bro.
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Post by pinja on Dec 14, 2022 16:36:46 GMT -5
I mean, if she got released for having a sex-ish page, it kinda does 🤷♀️ Its the same thing as here though. There were rules she had to follow to keep receiving a paycheck from WWE, and she broke them after being warned. Mandy did not get fired for showing pictures and videos on WWE programming. WWE's moral clause extends to the wrestler's outside life. The board rules don't state that you and I may not do sex work.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Dec 14, 2022 16:37:21 GMT -5
I mean, if she got released for having a sex-ish page, it kinda does 🤷♀️ Its the same thing as here though. There were rules she had to follow to keep receiving a paycheck from WWE, and she broke them after being warned. Thing is our rules are about what people do while here. When not here, do whatever you fancy. WWE is a PG product, but she wasn't doing this on WWE TV, she was doing it away from her job, on a paid site for over 18s. It was a rule yes, but we can say it wasn't a fair rule since it was stuff that was being kept away from the segment of their audience it wasn't meant for and she's an "independant contractor". As others have said, it's not even that big a deal, WWE keeps a sponsor, she keeps her higher paying job with less wear and tear on her body.
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Post by BorneAgain on Dec 14, 2022 16:37:47 GMT -5
WWE will claim that due to her giving so much without taking they had no choice but to send her away in recognition of the Barry Manilow amendment.
Seriously though, sex work like this is going to be a potential element that wrestling companies will have to adapt to long term, especially for female talents. Its easy to make a joke about Impact Wrestling being so obscure that some of their roster having racy content doesn't matter or that their female wrestlers have to supplement their income somehow, but its to their credit that there's never been a single suggestion that the management there have had a problem with Jordynne Grace or Deonna Purrazzo having OnlyFans accounts. Especially as taboos change over time, strongly restricting this stuff could be more harm long term than good for WWE's image.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves BBL Bayley on Dec 14, 2022 16:38:03 GMT -5
What I’ve got from this page is that I need to start a site. Thanks, bros.
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Post by griti kitty on Dec 14, 2022 16:38:15 GMT -5
Gonna burst into tears tonight when Gigi rediscovers how to wrestle and hits a Kiss by the Rose to one of the TikTok idiots to regain the tag titles as the entire CWC chants for Mandy. I feel for the girls. Gigi and Jacy need our support more than ever right now. On the verge of a main roster call up, now their career is in limbo. Replacing Mandy with anybody I don't think would work and just calling them up would probably fail too. Basically a year and half developing an act and it's gone in a day. I'm thinking of women to replace Mandy and I just don't think they work. Sonya would need a ton of time getting the stink of being a jobber off her and Tiffany doesn't really fit with them. Cora could work I guess but they would just be stuck in developmental even longer with that.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Dec 14, 2022 16:38:16 GMT -5
Its the same thing as here though. There were rules she had to follow to keep receiving a paycheck from WWE, and she broke them after being warned. Thing is our rules are about what people do while here. When not here, do whatever you fancy. WWE is a PG product, but she wasn't doing this on WWE TV, she was doing it away from her job, on a paid site for over 18s. It was a rule yes, but we can say it wasn't a fair rule since it was stuff that was being kept away from the segment of their audience it wasn't meant for and she's an "independant contractor". As others have said, it's not even that big a deal, WWE keeps a sponsor, she keeps her higher paying job with less wear and tear on her body. I don't think she really advertised her site on her social media, either.
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Post by Kalmia on Dec 14, 2022 16:39:28 GMT -5
Well no, because the T&Cs say that minors can have accounts (you have to be 13+) so it's not fair to compare the rules here with what Rose was posting on an adult service. You can see though why WWE, a PG product reliant on television deals and sponsors, also would be against this. Maybe I didn’t make my point clear but I just don’t think this story has anything to do with normalizing sex work. I can. I still don't agree with it though. The photos and videos were posted in an appropriate place for adults only. They weren't on Twitter or Instagram for everyone to see. If sex work was normalised and more accepted, then this wouldn't matter as much. People would be more accepting of adult things being restricted to adults only.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves BBL Bayley on Dec 14, 2022 16:40:08 GMT -5
I feel for the girls. Gigi and Jacy need our support more than ever right now. On the verge of a main roster call up, now their career is in limbo. Replacing Mandy with anybody I don't think would work and just calling them up would probably fail too. Basically a year and half developing an act and it's gone in a day. I'm thinking of women to replace Mandy and I just don't think they work. Sonya would need a ton of time getting the stink of being a jobber off her and Tiffany doesn't really fit with them. Cora could work I guess but they would just be stuck in developmental even longer with that. Natalya. It’s always Natalya.
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Post by canceled4truth on Dec 14, 2022 16:40:45 GMT -5
Also she took it down for a day right before the second Alba Fyre match and said stuff got back to WWE but life just went on after that until now. I think Sabi's headless body was legit the breaking point. Well, yeah...I would imagine decapitating someone would be the breaking point. You would think so. Anyways, I'm off to watch Crown Jewel!
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Dec 14, 2022 16:41:04 GMT -5
On the verge of a main roster call up, now their career is in limbo. Replacing Mandy with anybody I don't think would work and just calling them up would probably fail too. Basically a year and half developing an act and it's gone in a day. I'm thinking of women to replace Mandy and I just don't think they work. Sonya would need a ton of time getting the stink of being a jobber off her and Tiffany doesn't really fit with them. Cora could work I guess but they would just be stuck in developmental even longer with that. Natalya. It’s always Natalya. The only thing Toxic about Nattie is her farts.
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Post by MrElijah on Dec 14, 2022 16:42:13 GMT -5
It is kind of funny the people on this board taking a hardline stance about normalizing sex work but if you were to post any of the stuff that got her fired on here, you’d be banned So you’re telling me I can’t promote my Onlyfans on here? Why would anyone pay for you to bitch about the Knicks?
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Post by flowercity on Dec 14, 2022 16:42:26 GMT -5
It is kind of funny the people on this board taking a hardline stance about normalizing sex work but if you were to post any of the stuff that got her fired on here, you’d be banned FAN is a publicly accessible board that minors are allowed to legally post on and not everyone who posts on here would want to see explicit pics. OnlyFans is a strictly subscription-based site for only adults where you have to have a valid credit card to even see the free content. Trying too hard with the "but you participate in society!" bro. My other posts clear up what I meant, which admittedly, I didn’t do so well in my original post. But i’m glad you and the other guy have fun dunking on me. Always glad to be of service.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Dec 14, 2022 16:42:41 GMT -5
On the verge of a main roster call up, now their career is in limbo. Replacing Mandy with anybody I don't think would work and just calling them up would probably fail too. Basically a year and half developing an act and it's gone in a day. I'm thinking of women to replace Mandy and I just don't think they work. Sonya would need a ton of time getting the stink of being a jobber off her and Tiffany doesn't really fit with them. Cora could work I guess but they would just be stuck in developmental even longer with that. Natalya. It’s always Natalya.
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Post by Legion on Dec 14, 2022 16:43:23 GMT -5
WWE will claim that due to her giving so much without taking they had no choice but to send her away in recognition of the Barry Manilow amendment. Seriously though, sex work like this is going to be a potential element that wrestling companies will have to adapt to long term, especially for female talents. Its easy to make a joke about Impact Wrestling being so obscure that some of their roster having racy content doesn't matter or that their female wrestlers have to supplement their income somehow, but its to their credit that there's never been a single suggestion that the management there have had a problem with Jordynne Grace or Deonna Purrazzo having OnlyFans accounts. Especially as taboos change over time, strongly restricting this stuff could be more harm long term than good for WWE's image. Thing is though, it isnt as much WWE saying no to her doing it as much as their sponsor, who brings in lots of money for them, having the problem. Any clause in the contract will be because of deals with sponsors, same as it would be in other entertainment contracts. WWE could change, but to do that may damage the business model they currently have which relies on all that lovely sponsorship money and market flooding toys. They aren't going to, unless the sponsors stop caring, or another sponsor comes along with the same reach who doesn't - and only Lego are bigger than Mattel in the toy world.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Dec 14, 2022 16:43:53 GMT -5
Well no, because the T&Cs say that minors can have accounts (you have to be 13+) so it's not fair to compare the rules here with what Rose was posting on an adult service. You can see though why WWE, a PG product reliant on television deals and sponsors, also would be against this. Maybe I didn’t make my point clear but I just don’t think this story has anything to do with normalizing sex work. It shows how screwed up the priorities are on the business side when it comes to what sponsors, and networks looks at. Like the fired someone because she posed a nude picture and didn't happen on there shows. But DWI, drug usage, and ext is made to look ok because nobody is losing there jobs over it. They get suspended instead and most cases after that business as normal. See the multi DWI from the USO's they get reward by being tag champions and NOW the longest running tag champions. It shows how fickle the standard are on the business side of things are.
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Post by XIII on Dec 14, 2022 16:44:05 GMT -5
WWE has to be the only place ever where the sponsors don’t care that they’re doing business with a brutal dictatorship that had a a guy living in America murdered and dismembered in the embassy of a foreign country and is fine with that, but is not fine with a female talent posting some risqué photos behind a paywall.
This shit is getting out of hand.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2022 16:44:09 GMT -5
If Mandy wants to be a sex worker than she did what was best for her and left to go do that full time.
But WWE is not in the wrong either they gave her a warning and she chose not to adhere to it ..she is on a nationally televised show with sponsors heavly geared towards children...word and more was likely to spread wildly about Mandy's escapades and I do not think the issue is she has an only fans as I am sure Scarlett also has one but unlike Mandy she isn't showing her bits and photos out here banging Kross in the shower.
What a photoshop thread that would be though.
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Post by BorneAgain on Dec 14, 2022 16:45:30 GMT -5
WWE will claim that due to her giving so much without taking they had no choice but to send her away in recognition of the Barry Manilow amendment. Seriously though, sex work like this is going to be a potential element that wrestling companies will have to adapt to long term, especially for female talents. Its easy to make a joke about Impact Wrestling being so obscure that some of their roster having racy content doesn't matter or that their female wrestlers have to supplement their income somehow, but its to their credit that there's never been a single suggestion that the management there have had a problem with Jordynne Grace or Deonna Purrazzo having OnlyFans accounts. Especially as taboos change over time, strongly restricting this stuff could be more harm long term than good for WWE's image. Thing is though, it isnt as much WWE saying no to her doing it as much as their sponsor, who brings in lots of money for them, having the problem. Any clause in the contract will be because of deals with sponsors, same as it would be in other entertainment contracts. WWE could change, but to do that may damage the business model they currently have which relies on all that lovely sponsorship money and market flooding toys. They aren't going to, unless the sponsors stop caring, or another sponsor comes along with the same reach who doesn't - and only Lego are bigger than Mattel in the toy world. It is one of those things where I wonder if there's a negotiable middle ground; maybe you take the title off of her and don't highlight her as much, but keep on the roster in some capacity to at least appease some sponsors.
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Post by flowercity on Dec 14, 2022 16:46:19 GMT -5
You can see though why WWE, a PG product reliant on television deals and sponsors, also would be against this. Maybe I didn’t make my point clear but I just don’t think this story has anything to do with normalizing sex work. It shows how screwed up the priorities are on the business side when it comes to what sponsors, and networks looks at. Like the fired someone because she posed a nude picture and didn't happen on there shows. But DWI, drug usage, and ext is made to look ok because nobody is losing there jobs over it. They get suspended instead and most cases after that business as normal. See the multi DWI from the USO's they get reward by being tag champions and NOW the longest running tag champions. It shows how fickle the standard are on the business side of things are. I don’t disagree with anything you said. The only rebuttal would be it’s a different company under different management. They still push the Usos but maybe everyone started off with a clean slate. Probably not, just spit balling.
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