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Post by Ryushinku on Dec 16, 2022 4:26:56 GMT -5
It also sucks to see Giant Bernard become a run-of-the-mill stooge. Will this ruin the Lord Tensai gimmick?
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gritizen
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Post by gritizen on Dec 16, 2022 4:41:02 GMT -5
NXT live thread after learning the recent news:
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Post by mistery on Dec 16, 2022 4:46:10 GMT -5
I....what? HBK has been in charge of the show where Mandy and Toxic Attraction's sexiness was amped up to 11 and made a central part of their presentation. She even did Shawn's infamous playgirl pose with her titles. There was no issue with her being racy in all that time. On a show that has more eyeballs on Mandy than her site does. Why is it suddenly an issue now? I would go out on a limb and say the risque photos are one thing, but Mandy was full on nude and showing her butthole in some photos, as well as sex in others (or at least HEAVILY implied sex). That is a hell of a lot different than just simply lewds.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Dec 16, 2022 5:09:29 GMT -5
I would go out on a limb and say the risque photos are one thing, but Mandy was full on nude and showing her butthole in some photos, as well as sex in others (or at least HEAVILY implied sex). That is a hell of a lot different than just simply lewds. We've got stars direct in our face And we're praying it's not too late 'Cause we know we're falling from grace Perineum
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Post by Bo Rida on Dec 16, 2022 5:24:01 GMT -5
I would go out on a limb and say the risque photos are one thing, but Mandy was full on nude and showing her butthole in some photos, as well as sex in others (or at least HEAVILY implied sex). That is a hell of a lot different than just simply lewds. We've got stars direct in our face And we're praying it's not too late 'Cause we know we're falling from grace Perineum Please don't bring Brian Cage into this.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Dec 16, 2022 5:25:46 GMT -5
So it hadn't been decided yet that Mandy was being released when it was decided she was dropping the title? That really doesn't line up. Unless I guess maybe they were going to wait until New Years Evil to drop it and then release her.
Even though I like them Gigi and Jacy impressing officials is also surprising considering Gigi did not look good in those matches at all and concussed herself botching a huricanrana in one of them. And Jacy broke Doudrop's nose in another. Unless I guess maybe they were impressed how they carried themselves backstage as far as being easy to work with and stuff like that.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Dec 16, 2022 5:28:14 GMT -5
Remember when Mandy heroically defended the USA's honor at Worlds Collide?
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Post by Legion on Dec 16, 2022 5:30:26 GMT -5
Him getting the title off her doesnt automatically mean he wanted her released - he could have just been joining the dots before they were joined higher up. Damage control just in case. If this part of the story is accurate, we now have a gap between deciding to take the title off her and Mattel putting pressure on WWE that led to her release. So did Bloom do this before or after Mattel found out? Or is the Mattel stuff just cover? This adds some wrinkles to the story.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Dec 16, 2022 5:46:21 GMT -5
Him getting the title off her doesnt automatically mean he wanted her released - he could have just been joining the dots before they were joined higher up. Damage control just in case. If this part of the story is accurate, we now have a gap between deciding to take the title off her and Mattel putting pressure on WWE that led to her release. So did Bloom do this before or after Mattel found out? Or is the Mattel stuff just cover? This adds some wrinkles to the story. Don't know when Mattel found out but I'm guessing Bloom discovered it and reported it to HBK sometime between Wednesday and Friday last week. I say this because Mandy didn't appear at all on the Deadline PPV last Saturday even though on the previous Tuesday TV she said she and the rest of Toxic Attraction would be there. However only Gigi and Jacy ended up appearing on the show in a backstage segment. I don't know when it was decided they were releasing her but it does come off like they had made their mind up with them deciding not to bring her for the show.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Dec 16, 2022 5:54:08 GMT -5
Remember when Mandy heroically defended the USA's honor at Worlds Collide? A Real American Hero
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Dec 16, 2022 8:18:30 GMT -5
Some interesting notes from the Observer:
It is believed she was fired without being given the option to take the stuff down and tone down her site. Those in the company felt that had no other choice then to fire her because she was an active performer on the roster, and these were public photos and videos for customers, unlike several of the women stars who have had their personal private photos hacked and released without their knowledge or permission where the company saw the talent as the victims.
For reasons of backstage political machinations, she was moved back to NXT in July 2021 and put in the group Toxic Attraction.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 16, 2022 8:24:40 GMT -5
Some interesting notes from the Observer: It is believed she was fired without being given the option to take the stuff down and tone down her site. Those in the company felt that had no other choice then to fire her because she was an active performer on the roster, and these were public photos and videos for customers, unlike several of the women stars who have had their personal private photos hacked and released without their knowledge or permission where the company saw the talent as the victims. For reasons of backstage political machinations, she was moved back to NXT in July 2021 and put in the group Toxic Attraction. So this changes some of the context in all this if true.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 16, 2022 8:24:48 GMT -5
For reasons of backstage political machinations, she was moved back to NXT in July 2021 and put in the group Toxic Attraction. Miz twisting the knife one more time into Otis.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 16, 2022 8:28:47 GMT -5
I do wonder if the idea was she'd be fired without dropping the title, and HBK said, "No, wrap it up first", or if maybe he figured she could lay low if she wasn't champion still and it'd maybe blow over like any number of stupid shit that could have gotten him canned in the mid-90s.
Like, otherwise Shawn sucks ass, I just can see this as having possibly been an attempt to either protect the title or protect her, and only managed to do the first, in either case.
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Post by canceled4truth on Dec 16, 2022 8:59:03 GMT -5
For reasons of backstage political machinations, she was moved back to NXT in July 2021 and put in the group Toxic Attraction. Curious as to what the implication is here
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Dec 16, 2022 9:29:31 GMT -5
I bought a Mandy Rose for my five year old cousin and he started crying because she's the lady who does dick ratings and then I was banned from Christmas forever
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Post by papagiorgio on Dec 16, 2022 9:39:55 GMT -5
If she drops posting on the site and doesn't sign with AEW, I could see the WWE bringing her back in the spring after Mania season. It is probably just easier to fire someone rather than suspend someone for something like this. I'm sure she had been warned in the past about her photo posting and not going over the edge. Giving an ultimatum after she did it, wouldn't have undone it. Leaks would still be out there even if she pulled them down now.
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Post by XIII on Dec 16, 2022 9:40:51 GMT -5
Some interesting notes from the Observer: It is believed she was fired without being given the option to take the stuff down and tone down her site. Those in the company felt that had no other choice then to fire her because she was an active performer on the roster, and these were public photos and videos for customers, unlike several of the women stars who have had their personal private photos hacked and released without their knowledge or permission where the company saw the talent as the victims. For reasons of backstage political machinations, she was moved back to NXT in July 2021 and put in the group Toxic Attraction. I don’t think that Mattel called for her release, in fact I doubt that they even knew about the site. I think that she was released because she was in violation of the morality clause that exists due to Mattel being a sponsor without Mattel calling for a release. Reading between the lines this is part of the reason why I’m almost certain that the WWE found out how much she was making from the site and that was part of the reason why she was let go. Can’t have someone making more money from their own hustles than the top wrestlers on the roster. i don’t know what “political machinations” means but if Meltzer is going to drop something like that he really needs to explain it. SMH.
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Post by lucas_lee on Dec 16, 2022 9:45:21 GMT -5
For reasons of backstage political machinations, she was moved back to NXT in July 2021 and put in the group Toxic Attraction. Curious as to what the implication is here Johnny Ace wanted to oogle some more women. Thats around the time Vince installed Ace and Trips got demoted
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Post by pinja on Dec 16, 2022 9:45:52 GMT -5
If I'm posting nudes on my OF and they get leaked, I'm a victim too of course. There was a specific circle of people allowed to see them (paying customers) and someone dragged them out of that circle.
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