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Post by darbus alan on Dec 25, 2022 13:57:45 GMT -5
Cash in has to have at least a week's notice. The "wrestler desperately running down the ramp with referee at their side while the Champ is exhausted or knocked out" trope is way overdone and feels really cheap. Edge was really the only person who made it work.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Dec 25, 2022 14:22:19 GMT -5
I say alternate every year Mens and womens. Gives you time to build someone up but it doesn't disregard the women's version because you can't do that cause it just shows the women's division is lesser. That or split them up in the year. Same with the Royal Rumble. Two of the same large gimmick matches and gimmicks sticking around just make it tiring.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2022 14:41:25 GMT -5
I very much appreciate how many are wanting to integrate some elements of the GOTG because honestly that is and will be the best version of a MITB concept ever because that title fulfills so many purposes besides simply just being a MITB.
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Post by fw91 on Dec 25, 2022 14:42:30 GMT -5
I'd honestly scrap it. It's run its course and has cheapened the rumble winners to guys who have already won it before and are established.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Dec 25, 2022 15:12:14 GMT -5
I say alternate every year Mens and womens. Gives you time to build someone up but it doesn't disregard the women's version because you can't do that cause it just shows the women's division is lesser. That or split them up in the year. Same with the Royal Rumble. Two of the same large gimmick matches and gimmicks sticking around just make it tiring. I think the Rumble should happen every year since it’s usually been the #1 contendership for the world title at Wrestlemania. But MITB, the chance to go after a guy after he’s been through a match? That should be a biannual thing for each division
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Post by ChitownKnight on Dec 25, 2022 15:12:14 GMT -5
I say alternate every year Mens and womens. Gives you time to build someone up but it doesn't disregard the women's version because you can't do that cause it just shows the women's division is lesser. That or split them up in the year. Same with the Royal Rumble. Two of the same large gimmick matches and gimmicks sticking around just make it tiring. I think the Rumble should happen every year since it’s usually been the #1 contendership for the world title at Wrestlemania. But MITB, the chance to go after a guy after he’s been through a match? That should be a biannual thing for each division
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Dec 25, 2022 15:16:26 GMT -5
I say alternate every year Mens and womens. Gives you time to build someone up but it doesn't disregard the women's version because you can't do that cause it just shows the women's division is lesser. That or split them up in the year. Same with the Royal Rumble. Two of the same large gimmick matches and gimmicks sticking around just make it tiring. I think the Rumble should happen every year since it’s usually been the #1 contendership for the world title at Wrestlemania. But MITB, the chance to go after a guy after he’s been through a match? That should be a biannual thing for each division I meant the women's royal rumble should happen in July for a shot at Summerslam. Makes summerslam seem at a Mania level with a Rumble match leading to.it
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Post by fw91 on Dec 25, 2022 15:28:04 GMT -5
I think the Rumble should happen every year since it’s usually been the #1 contendership for the world title at Wrestlemania. But MITB, the chance to go after a guy after he’s been through a match? That should be a biannual thing for each division I meant the women's royal rumble should happen in July for a shot at Summerslam. Makes summerslam seem at a Mania level with a Rumble match leading to.it Not a horrible idea, but I think Mania should still be in a league of its own.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Dec 25, 2022 15:46:20 GMT -5
I meant the women's royal rumble should happen in July for a shot at Summerslam. Makes summerslam seem at a Mania level with a Rumble match leading to.it Not a horrible idea, but I think Mania should still be in a league of its own. It can be. I don't see how moving a Rumble before your number two show hurts Mania
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Post by fw91 on Dec 25, 2022 15:51:54 GMT -5
Not a horrible idea, but I think Mania should still be in a league of its own. It can be. I don't see how moving a Rumble before your number two show hurts Mania Because winning the rumble imo, should lead to the biggest opportunity which is competing for the world title at mania. Moving it towards Summerslam makes it seems like equals. It's like a consolation prize for the ladies. Saying "Summerslam is your wrestlemania"
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Dec 25, 2022 16:27:21 GMT -5
Open the Forbidden Door Papa H. Cash in on the AEW title holder.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Weather Machine on Dec 25, 2022 19:20:40 GMT -5
When the dude whose about to win gets to the top of the ladder the case flops open to reveal that in order to win someone has to retrieve the routing number and write it down in this blank space for the transfer to go thru. Shit just gets real wacky from there.
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Post by Hypnosis on Dec 25, 2022 22:24:05 GMT -5
Open the Forbidden Door Papa H. Cash in on the AEW title holder. MJF:"OH SHIT!"
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Post by tenshi on Dec 25, 2022 23:10:53 GMT -5
I have 2 ideas: Either you can take New Japan's idea where the MITB briefcase is treated as a title and can be defended against other wrestlers aiming for it OR the winner doesn't show up with the briefcase all the time, only bringing the briefcase out before a cash-in. That way, when people see the briefcase, they'd know that stuff is about to go down.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Dec 25, 2022 23:15:50 GMT -5
Only.
One.
Ladder.
And if it's broken or bent out of shape during the match, there's no winner.
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Post by RI Richmark on Dec 25, 2022 23:44:12 GMT -5
Only. One. Ladder. And if it's broken or bent out of shape during the match, there's no winner. Or they have to stand on Omos' shoulders instead.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2022 1:51:09 GMT -5
Yeah there was a lot of guys like Big E that really didn’t need the “anytime” stipulation, and could have better used announcing his cash in for Summerslam. There’s been too many bad or forgettable cash ins with it not really not helping build up anyone.
It would be better just to drop the whole thing or since it’s expected make it a mania thing with the men’s on one night and the woman’s on the other.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 26, 2022 5:30:02 GMT -5
I wouldn't go through the rigamarole of a new set of rules or anything. I'd just have whoever the next MITB winner was just call their shot ahead of time, maybe with them getting the champion to agree to a stipulation of their choosing in return for knowing they were free of having to look over their shoulder for the cash-in.
Even one year of doing that, maybe after a month or two of the champion being paranoid so they're amicable to the agreement, would grant some relief. It'd also work well for a face, both to have them not take the "cowardly" approach, and because a heel champion would be the best to sell the anxiety of having the MITB winner getting under their skin until they're happy compete in whatever the hell the face wants.
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Post by darthobiwan on Dec 26, 2022 19:45:50 GMT -5
Some cashin scenarios I would like to see.
As mentioned more calling their shots in advance like "I'm cashing at Wrestlemania " or "I'm cashing the next time we are in my hometown".
The MITB holder "disappears" for a while like 6-8 months (let's say they get injuried or just to give them a vacation and build the suspense). Then after not being seen or mentioned for months (and possibly people forgetting they had the briefcase in the first place), they return and cashin with a huge pop.
Two different wrestlers happen to grab briefcase at same time, pull it down together, and they both fall off the ladder while still holding the briefcase as the match ends. Both wrestlers and referees are arguing who should be winner, until let's say HHH comes out to settle it and its ruled they are both co-MITB holders. The catch is only 1 of them can cash in, and if the other guy cashes in before them, then they are out of luck. So this can go one of 2 ways. 1. Let's say the 2 winners are Cody Rhodes and Seth Rollins. For weeks while one attempts to cash in, the other is there to block it, leading to consistent brawls. Finally Seth and Cody mutually agree to cash in at the same time... at Wrestlemania... making it a triple threat match against the champion and winner takes all!
Or 2. Let's say again Seth and Cody are joint holders. This time since they can not decide who or when the cash in takes place as the year expiration is coming up, they agree to cash in for Tag team title shot, leading to them winning the titles and becoming a forming formidable team!
I also like the idea of winner holding it until the next year and not cash in until the last day possible. Here are 2 unique scenarios I see. 1. The face MITB holder keeps getting stalled by heels stopping the cash/who they are feuding with all year (every time they come out to cash in the heel champions buddies are their to jump him first). Finally as the last day comes to cash in and all the heels are waiting for him, the face holder comes out driving a truck (ala stone cold during attitude era), which chases off the heels, and for good measure the face recruits some face friends to fight off the heel side, while face holder finally cashes in and beats heel champion for the title!
Or 2. Let's say Sami Zayn wins next years MITB. He is still holding onto it until the following years Mens MITB show, where earlier in the night Kevin Owen's wins the 2024 mens MITB match. About an hour later let's say the champion is Roman Reigns, and he beats Drew McIntyre in a hard fought match. Then KO cashes in HIS briefcase he won earlier in the night, beats Roman, and he is the new champion! However while he is celebrating, Sami Zayn music plays, and out comes Sami with his briefcase he won the previous year! He cashes against KO, beats him, and is the new champion! Yes 1 MITB winner cashing against another!
As far as unique ladder matches go, maybe not every year but it be interesting if they did stuff like 2020 with them trying to fight to top of headquarters to grab it or they would have to fight from "one side of the city to another" to get to the briefcase" maybe once every 3-4 years.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Dec 27, 2022 1:51:14 GMT -5
Someone steals the briefcase thinking they've stuck it to the MITB holder, but then the MITB holder just cashes in anyway (maybe using one of the briefcases at the merch table), because contract law just doesn't work like that. I was kinda hoping when Miz won Otis's briefcase... he would have opened it and found like a ham sandwhich inside... and Otis just shrugs and says I removed the contract months ago... why would I leave something like that just laying around?
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