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Post by ace on Jan 9, 2023 18:44:53 GMT -5
I was waiting for someone to say Twin Peaks because I don’t believe it’s true anymore. It was true for a quarter of a century….and then we got The Return. I’d vote for it to be #1 with a bullet. I thought of Peaks also, but I personally like the first few and last few episodes of Season 2 better than Season 1. Of course The Return is in a league of its own. My two favorite episodes actually are in season 2 (the one where the murder is solved and the final episode) but as a whole season I can understand it ranking last. It loses its way after the reveal. But I always thought it got back on track for the final stretch of the season too. And that last episode is maybe my favorite episode of tv ever
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Post by fw91 on Jan 9, 2023 18:47:18 GMT -5
Extreme Dodgeball. Although I was a fan of Armed Response, once they got rid of the reactivation target and replaced it with the 20 second countdown they really watered down the game. We will not speak of that convulated trash that was season 3. Points?
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Jan 9, 2023 19:01:39 GMT -5
I thought of Peaks also, but I personally like the first few and last few episodes of Season 2 better than Season 1. Of course The Return is in a league of its own. My two favorite episodes actually are in season 2 (the one where the murder is solved and the final episode) but as a whole season I can understand it ranking last. It loses its way after the reveal. But I always thought it got back on track for the final stretch of the season too. And that last episode is maybe my favorite episode of tv ever The episode where the killer is revealed, or where it's actually solved?
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Post by ace on Jan 9, 2023 19:05:27 GMT -5
My two favorite episodes actually are in season 2 (the one where the murder is solved and the final episode) but as a whole season I can understand it ranking last. It loses its way after the reveal. But I always thought it got back on track for the final stretch of the season too. And that last episode is maybe my favorite episode of tv ever The episode where the killer is revealed, or where it's actually solved? When the audience finds out
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jan 9, 2023 19:11:05 GMT -5
I asked my wifes opinion. She said The Good Place, Desperate Housewives, Once Upon A Time, Eureka, Warehouse 13, and some others I forget.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Jan 9, 2023 20:48:15 GMT -5
The episode where the killer is revealed, or where it's actually solved? When the audience finds out Ah, THAT episode! To this day I can't believe Lynch was able to get away with the Maddie murder scene. In 1992 on network television. That gets to me every damn time.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 9, 2023 21:10:47 GMT -5
Anime example, The Promised Neverland. Season 1 was widely beloved and had people super pumped up, then for whatever reason for season 2 they decided to skip past a ton of stuff people actually liked from the manga after that and go straight into the already divisive endgame for some reason while changing things in a way that just made it all the worse. Still pissed about that, I got some of the board into that after talking about and S1 was great but for some unknown reason they cut odee shit from season 2 when the Manga was finished already Made no sense
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 9, 2023 21:16:06 GMT -5
Another anime response would be Tokyo Ghoul
Followed the source material and ended the season on hype mood with Kaneki and Jason. Then they went and f**ed it up after and tried to get it right with Re but fast tracked a lot of stuff
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Post by DSR on Jan 10, 2023 1:46:28 GMT -5
Oh, so that's where Bruce Timm gets it from. Side note: I know he was probably older than a teen at that point, and the budget for it wouldn't have really been there, but now I'm picturing a Burt Ward led Teen Titan series and wonder what late 60s/early 70s actors would play Kid Flash, Wonder Girl, Aqualad and Speedy.Yeah, they have bruce and barbara dating (it's the 60s, so nothing too heavy or anything), but batman has no idea who batgirl is, alfred knows and helps her out with stuff, and both batman and batgirl get a little suspicious with alfred a couple of times of "I know you know who they are, but I'll respect you to keep it a secret just like you keep mine a secret." Have you seen that show from the 70s, where adam west and burt ward came back to play batman and robin, with all of the other heroes (except for superman and the incredible hulk and wonder woman), legends of the superheroes, where they have older batman and robin, with all of the other heroes of the time I have Legends Of The Superheroes on DVD. Half of it is the superheroes roasting each other. The other half was an actual villain with a plot, but I don't remember any of it.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 10, 2023 4:03:09 GMT -5
I asked my wifes opinion. She said The Good Place, Desperate Housewives, Once Upon A Time, Eureka, Warehouse 13, and some others I forget. For Warehouse 13 I might agree, I think it's between season 1 and season 2 as to what the best season was. With Eureka, I'd say season 4 was the best season. Jack, Allison, Jo, Fargo, and Henry going back in time and changing the present day shook the show up for the better, and allowed them to fix some things. Season 1 was great as was season 2, but season 4 was the peak of Eureka. I miss both shows.
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Post by Bo Rida on Jan 10, 2023 4:38:52 GMT -5
Homeland would have been one of the great shows if they had the guts to bring S1 to it's natural conclusion. Similar to Heroes really. They didn't so it declined massively for a couple of seasons but unusually it actually became pretty good again in later seasons.
Being human (UK) had the balance between humour and darkness right, still good afterwards but never reached the peaks of the initial four episodes.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 10, 2023 6:35:27 GMT -5
"Community" never came close to being as good as it was in the first season. Season two was fine but you could start seeing the fissures. In season three, those fissures became cracks. By season four, the whole dam broke, continuing into that ghastly fifth season and a sixth season that was so bad, it almost singlehandedly killed Yahoo Screen. I don't know season 2 is damn amazing too. 3 is a step down , 4 is a joke. The last two weren't bad but they had a lack of market ,they sef were overpaid as yahoo screen was far from taking off and it was different from the first 3 for sure. It was never going ti succeed even if it was the best season
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Post by Dub H on Jan 10, 2023 6:40:06 GMT -5
Probably not too fair since it got cancelled after 3 Seasons, but Jessica Jones S1 was way ahead of the other two. Each Jessica Jones gets so much worse from the last one Season 3 is a joke and it was one if the very few times I got annoyed watching a show. It's like they took every problem of season 2 and doubled down on it. Like holy shit Jessica Jones is unable to make one single decision
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 10, 2023 7:44:18 GMT -5
Mike and Molly. Very fun first season, then they had Molly gradually devolve into every other 'fatty fall down' role that McCarthy had.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Jan 10, 2023 19:08:40 GMT -5
True Detective.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Jan 10, 2023 23:07:24 GMT -5
Vikings.
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Post by thechase on Jan 11, 2023 8:36:46 GMT -5
Jackie Chan Adventures, and I say this as someone who loved all of that show
It was never as big a show as it could have been, but that first season I feel caught lightning in a bottle, and then they blew it with season two. The Demon Portal arc was great, but the season had an extended episode count and had a lot of standalone filler episodes which killed it. I think they underestimated the wants of the audience, who desired to watch it more for the quest storylines, not the standalone stuff, and when they weren't careful around her, Jade got very annoying. I remember how hardcore the 'shippers were into pairing her with Hsi-Wu and when that dried up pretty much after two episodes, the audience lost interest in her.
After season two, the remaining three seasons had a lower episode count, the standalones were few and far between, with the quest arcs becoming the full focus again, but the series was kind of just 'there', still a dependable, enjoyable show but they'd long written Shendu and Valmont out, keeping the Dark Hand for a bit who served under different, less interesting masters. Eventually they got written out as well.
The series is still a fond memory for me, I was a loyal fan, but on reflection I wish it'd have been more in touch with it's audience.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jan 11, 2023 9:17:49 GMT -5
Probably not too fair since it got cancelled after 3 Seasons, but Jessica Jones S1 was way ahead of the other two. Although Jessica Jones probably had the most notable drop in quality, I'd argue all the Netflix Marvel shows really peaked in the first season and went downhill afterwards (except for Iron Fist, which had a pretty decent season two compared to a horrible season one). I asked my wifes opinion. She said The Good Place, Desperate Housewives, Once Upon A Time, Eureka, Warehouse 13, and some others I forget. For Warehouse 13 I might agree, I think it's between season 1 and season 2 as to what the best season was. With Eureka, I'd say season 4 was the best season. Jack, Allison, Jo, Fargo, and Henry going back in time and changing the present day shook the show up for the better, and allowed them to fix some things. Season 1 was great as was season 2, but season 4 was the peak of Eureka. I miss both shows. Really with Eureka? I was always kinda meh on the timeline change. It felt like a lazy way to drop stories the writers just didn't want to deal with and made the new timeline really confusing. Did we ever get an explanation for how the season two story arc was supposed to play out in a universe where Kevin isn't autistic? Plus there were some other creative decisions in those last two seasons I was never big on. If I may add to the discussion, I'd throw Andromeda on the list as well. The first season or so was a really fun space opera with a really unique story and some compelling mysteries happening. But as the series continued and Kevin Sorbo gained more creative control it just turned into a rather bland Star Trek rip-off. And that's not even getting into the final season on Sci-Fi where they were just out of ideas and had no budget.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 11, 2023 9:26:21 GMT -5
Jackie Chan Adventures, and I say this as someone who loved all of that show It was never as big a show as it could have been, but that first season I feel caught lightning in a bottle, and then they blew it with season two. The Demon Portal arc was great, but the season had an extended episode count and had a lot of standalone filler episodes which killed it. I think they underestimated the wants of the audience, who desired to watch it more for the quest storylines, not the standalone stuff, and when they weren't careful around her, Jade got very annoying. I remember how hardcore the 'shippers were into pairing her with Hsi-Wu and when that dried up pretty much after two episodes, the audience lost interest in her. After season two, the remaining three seasons had a lower episode count, the standalones were few and far between, with the quest arcs becoming the full focus again, but the series was kind of just 'there', still a dependable, enjoyable show but they'd long written Shendu and Valmont out, keeping the Dark Hand for a bit who served under different, less interesting masters. Eventually they got written out as well. The series is still a fond memory for me, I was a loyal fan, but on reflection I wish it'd have been more in touch with it's audience. It's been a looooong time since I've watched the show so I have no idea how well it's even aged, but as a kid I always thought that it lost a lot in the transition of Valmont from this suave confident villain who was plenty threatening in his own right into this weird hopeless incompetent manchild.
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Post by thechase on Jan 11, 2023 9:48:47 GMT -5
Jackie Chan Adventures, and I say this as someone who loved all of that show It was never as big a show as it could have been, but that first season I feel caught lightning in a bottle, and then they blew it with season two. The Demon Portal arc was great, but the season had an extended episode count and had a lot of standalone filler episodes which killed it. I think they underestimated the wants of the audience, who desired to watch it more for the quest storylines, not the standalone stuff, and when they weren't careful around her, Jade got very annoying. I remember how hardcore the 'shippers were into pairing her with Hsi-Wu and when that dried up pretty much after two episodes, the audience lost interest in her. After season two, the remaining three seasons had a lower episode count, the standalones were few and far between, with the quest arcs becoming the full focus again, but the series was kind of just 'there', still a dependable, enjoyable show but they'd long written Shendu and Valmont out, keeping the Dark Hand for a bit who served under different, less interesting masters. Eventually they got written out as well. The series is still a fond memory for me, I was a loyal fan, but on reflection I wish it'd have been more in touch with it's audience. It's been a looooong time since I've watched the show so I have no idea how well it's even aged, but as a kid I always thought that it lost a lot in the transition of Valmont from this suave confident villain who was plenty threatening in his own right into this weird hopeless incompetent manchild. Yeah, Valmont got flanderized almost as soon as season two kicked off when Shendu possessed him, and I think they even changed his voice actor so he sounded a lot more needy/spoiled
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