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Post by wildojinx on Jan 29, 2023 2:07:34 GMT -5
After the Sami/Roman drama, how are they going to make fans care about Cody vs Roman? You cant even do a Bloodline vs Rhodes family thing since Dustin is in AEW and about to retire, and there's no female Bloodline members to take on Brandi.
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Post by Chiral on Jan 29, 2023 2:15:18 GMT -5
I don't feel like it's gonna be THAT hard to get fans into this angle, it's not like Cody's suddenly not mega over because Sami got beat down.
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Post by XIII on Jan 29, 2023 2:19:51 GMT -5
The fans definitely want Roman vs. Sami so it will be interesting to see how they build Mania and whether anyone turns on Cody before they announce a Sami match also at Mania or if they try to put him and KO in a tag team or something.
I think that whatever else you do you have to have Sami beat Roman at Mania n one of the nights. That 100% has to happen or you more or less just wasted a good assed angle.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 29, 2023 2:21:33 GMT -5
I don't think it's impossible, but if they don't do a "Roman defends both belts at Mania" angle, Cody might feel a bit forced in after how that angle was reacted to tonight
Again it's not impossible but I said it already, they gotta be careful imo, Zayn is in Daniel Bryan territory, everyone wants to see him topple the final boss now...
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Post by CMWaters on Jan 29, 2023 2:22:58 GMT -5
Might be tricky to edit around, but one thing Cody could bring up is that he was the first person on main roster WWE to beat Reigns for a title. Yes, Cody pinned Reigns for the tag titles, but admittedly it was because of Big Show. So that could be a point of contention Cody could use.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Jan 29, 2023 2:31:40 GMT -5
I’ll preface this by saying I have no doubt that the match will be great because both Cody and Roman are top-tier big match performers. They’re going to kill it.
Having said that, I think Cody’s story doesn’t need Roman and that could hurt the build-up. Cody’s story is that Dusty never won the WWE title and he wants to do it. It’s a great story and it’s easy to tell, but there is nothing either Roman or WM-specific to the story. It still works with anybody else holding the belt or at any other show.
From an emotional perspective, the Sami vs. Roman story is so much more compelling because of the personal aspect. It’s the hottest angle in wrestling right now and for good reason because everybody involved with it is hitting it out of the park.
There’s obviously a lot you can mine from the fact that Roman and Cody are both legacy guys and incorporate family history, but I don’t think you can get it hotter than Reigns vs. Zayn.
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Post by CMWaters on Jan 29, 2023 2:40:36 GMT -5
I’ll preface this by saying I have no doubt that the match will be great because both Cody and Roman are top-tier big match performers. They’re going to kill it. Having said that, I think Cody’s story doesn’t need Roman and that could hurt the build-up. Cody’s story is that Dusty never won the WWE title and he wants to do it. It’s a great story and it’s easy to tell, but there is nothing either Roman or WM-specific to the story. It still works with anybody else holding the belt or at any other show. From an emotional perspective, the Sami vs. Roman story is so much more compelling because of the personal aspect. It’s the hottest angle in wrestling right now and for good reason because everybody involved with it is hitting it out of the park. There’s obviously a lot you can mine from the fact that Roman and Cody are both legacy guys and incorporate family history, but I don’t think you can get it hotter than Reigns vs. Zayn. Possible game-plan for focus shift: -Do Sami vs. Roman at EC. Title match optional (Zayn might just want revenge) -If title match, Jey puts the final nail in Bloodline connection to continue beatdown -If NOT title match, since in Montreal, have something happen to give Sami a victory. Still could do the Bloodline attack, but having Roman lose a match even if non-title, as I've compared before, would be like in "300" when "God King" Xerxes was wounded, making him realize his mortality. -During the beat down, Owens comes down to help, they fend off for a bit, but something happens and Roman's about to do a repeat of what happened at Rumble. -Cody comes out from nowhere to make the save, doing something like a Disaster Kick variation of the Van Daminator to Roman, saving Owens and Zayn. Roman's now focused on Cody for that save, and Owens and Zayn unite to keep the rest of the Bloodline distracted with their own problems.
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Post by mc74 on Jan 29, 2023 2:54:10 GMT -5
The story already got kick-started off with the story of Cody returning after being on the shelf for nearly a year. You also have the story of the Rhodes family legacy, Cody's successes & struggles over the course of his wrestling career. You have the story of him leaving WWE for opportunity elsewhere, how he made a name for himself out there. Then they can cover Cody's return to WWE at last year's Wrestlemania. Basically, the story of how far Cody has come in the last several years. It's a story that writes itself.
On the path to his first world title, Cody's facing what is his biggest challenge to date. Roman Reigns, a man who has run roughshod over the entire roster the past 2+ years since winning the title. Many have challenged him, but all have fallen before the Tribal Chief. But now, we have a new challenger stepping up to the plate. It's Cody's time to shine, his time to rise to the occasion and be the conquering hero who frees WWE from the shackles of Roman's reign of terror.
That's the story that's going to be played out here.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 29, 2023 3:04:15 GMT -5
Rhodes family legacy vs the great Anaoi family legacy
Cody wants to add championship gold to his family name and stop the "disrespect" while Roman wants to continue his family name dominance. Pretty simple story to tell that doesn't need a lot of parts to work
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Post by griti kitty on Jan 29, 2023 3:39:09 GMT -5
They could also tie in Dusty being Heyman's mentor. Throw a wrinkle in on who Paul will be loyal to as the entire Bloodline crumbles around Roman.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 29, 2023 3:47:49 GMT -5
Rhodes family legacy vs the great Anaoi family legacy Cody wants to add championship gold to his family name and stop the "disrespect" while Roman wants to continue his family name dominance. Pretty simple story to tell that doesn't need a lot of parts to work Dusty has plenty of gold. Will they really pretend Dusty was never world champion?
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Post by yokohamacpfc on Jan 29, 2023 3:54:08 GMT -5
I mentioned it in the other thread but Cody uses Roman's problems with Sami and potentially Jey to get into his head. In a Cody/KO/Sami v Roman & Usos match Jey hesitates and makes a mistake costing them and making Roman paranoid. Cody should bring up Heyman betraying every wrestler he has managed and even a shooty comment about Jimmy's wife's absence. Cody can say Sami just did what Seth did and what will happen again and even mention as alluded to above that the Rhodes brothers beating the Shield were the beginning of the end for the group.
Roman's been showing signs of paranoia and rage since the Sami angle started and Cody should go for the jugular.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 29, 2023 3:56:24 GMT -5
Rhodes family legacy vs the great Anaoi family legacy Cody wants to add championship gold to his family name and stop the "disrespect" while Roman wants to continue his family name dominance. Pretty simple story to tell that doesn't need a lot of parts to work Dusty has plenty of gold. Will they really pretend Dusty was never world champion? It is about the WWF/WWE title in particular, yeah, since otherwise, Cody's a three time world champion, anyway, so it wouldn't be about that, either, which is the same reason where I don't really think the Universal title needs to be involved for their match one way or another. I imagine they'll probably keep things fairly simple for this angle. Maybe just have Cody say something about how he's beaten Roman before and can do it again, and Roman can probably make some comment about sending him crawling back to Jacksonville with his tail between his legs, or whatever.
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Post by Fade on Jan 29, 2023 4:05:52 GMT -5
The over arching themes are already there. Been laid out ad-nauseam. Bloodline drama, up and down till EC. Sami faces Roman at EC in his hometown. Loses. Bloodline reigns supreme, united and more evil then ever. Cody, KO, Sami etc take the fight to bloodline respectively towards WrestleMania. Boom.
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Jan 29, 2023 8:45:55 GMT -5
I’ll preface this by saying I have no doubt that the match will be great because both Cody and Roman are top-tier big match performers. They’re going to kill it. Having said that, I think Cody’s story doesn’t need Roman and that could hurt the build-up. Cody’s story is that Dusty never won the WWE title and he wants to do it. It’s a great story and it’s easy to tell, but there is nothing either Roman or WM-specific to the story. It still works with anybody else holding the belt or at any other show. From an emotional perspective, the Sami vs. Roman story is so much more compelling because of the personal aspect. It’s the hottest angle in wrestling right now and for good reason because everybody involved with it is hitting it out of the park. There’s obviously a lot you can mine from the fact that Roman and Cody are both legacy guys and incorporate family history, but I don’t think you can get it hotter than Reigns vs. Zayn. This perfectly encapsulates my stance. Cody can face ANYONE for the WWE Title, Sami HAS to face Roman. The story is too good to do anything but that.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jan 29, 2023 8:51:01 GMT -5
I think it will be fine but it kind of reminds me of the Austin/HBK dynamic as a main event. Two over acts individually and I am sure the build will be solid because of the performers involved but they don't really mesh that well story wise. When you think of some of the best Mania builds, it involves somewhat long term stories like Rock/Austin, Triple H/Batista, Rock/Cena, etc. This won't have that even though it will probably be good. It's likely going to be remembered more for the Mania moment itself though than anything during March on TV.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Jan 29, 2023 9:02:26 GMT -5
I think they’ll have Cody play up winning the rumble, celebrate, etc, but I think he’ll align himself with KO and Sami to help them with their Bloodline problem. With the numbers a bit more even, we get some six man tags, and I’m sure we’ll get Sami vs Roman at EC and Sami gets murked/cheated so Cody can avenge Sami and fulfill his.
Either way, I do see Cody getting involved with KO/Sami to help them.
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Post by BorneAgain on Jan 29, 2023 9:15:44 GMT -5
Stuff like this kind of underscores the problem of giving Roman both titles; had he remained Universal Champion and the WWE title was on a Lesnar/Lashley/Rollins/etc you'd have two potentially strong world championship programs for Mania.
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Jan 29, 2023 9:18:19 GMT -5
Cody is going to cry.
The end.
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Post by schma on Jan 29, 2023 10:22:48 GMT -5
They can really play up Roman's brutality. The bloodline started with him brutalizing his own family. Now after what we saw at the Rumble it's pretty easy. Hell it can go something like 'you have a dream to win the big one, to do your family proud, to hold this belt that eluded your father. I get that. I get that dream. It used to be my dream...and now, it's my reality. This is where you have a problem. I will do anything to keep these belts. You saw what I did to Owens. Hell, Sami was the closest thing I had to family that wasn't blood and you saw what I did to him. I am never losing this title and all that's in your future is pain and suffering that will make the injury that sidelined you look like a bruise'.
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