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Post by Stu on Mar 30, 2023 10:24:42 GMT -5
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Mar 30, 2023 10:25:56 GMT -5
I think it's pretty weird they changed Cena/Theory from opening to closing so quickly, honestly. I don't think it should main event. I'm hoping this is a situation where they're saying it "headlines" but the main event is actually Usos vs. KO/Sami.
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Post by Brickstone Kid on Mar 30, 2023 10:26:26 GMT -5
I'm so happy I could cry!! Bummed to miss the Sheamus match on Night 1 but the rest of the card has everyone I was hoping to see.
Also I highly doubt Cena vs Theoy main events (they have been announcing it as the kickoff match for a couple weeks). I'm guessing they just used Cena for the graphic because he's the biggest star on the card. The tag title match or Charlotte has to main event. This can't be the match order.
For example: no chance they are opening with the Men's tag team showcase.
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Post by BRV on Mar 30, 2023 10:29:58 GMT -5
I think it's pretty weird they changed Cena/Theory from opening to closing so quickly, honestly. I don't think it should main event. I'm hoping this is a situation where they're saying it "headlines" but the main event is actually Usos vs. KO/Sami. That's where I am as well. They explicitly said that John Cena vs. Austin Theory would open Night 1 and nowhere in that image or on ESPN this morning did that language change. Sure, they can call Theory vs. Cena the match that "headlines" night one, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's the match that goes on last. They could just be using that language to sell the show to lapsed fans who were watching ESPN or seeing that post on social media. It's the same way they sold WrestleMania VIII as having a "double main event," even though one of the main events was on midway through the show. Unless WrestleMania Saturday opens with literally any other match, I'm still of the mindset that Theory vs. Cena will open the night and the Tag Team Championship will close it. EDIT - The only way that changes is if sometime between last Friday and this morning, John Cena decided this was going to be his retirement match.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2023 10:31:04 GMT -5
The first night seems like the night where all the matches will get alot of time.
The second night seems like...Only the main event , hell in a cell and the IC title match are gonna get the big chunks of time.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Mar 30, 2023 10:32:35 GMT -5
The first night seems like the night where all the matches will get alot of time. The second night seems like...Only the main event , hell in a cell and the IC title match are gonna get the big chunks of time. I'm curious to see how they stretch it all out, TBH, because you could probably get though each night in four hours at very most if they're disciplined.
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Post by mistery on Mar 30, 2023 10:35:48 GMT -5
The first night seems like the night where all the matches will get alot of time. The second night seems like...Only the main event , hell in a cell and the IC title match are gonna get the big chunks of time. Eh. I think the second night has plenty of time for some matches. I don't think it's a risky statement to say that Omos/Lesnar is gonna be the shortest match of both nights. And then the women's tag showcase is probably going to be the second shortest. The rest are going to be pretty long I imagine.
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Post by BRV on Mar 30, 2023 10:36:19 GMT -5
The first night seems like the night where all the matches will get alot of time. The second night seems like...Only the main event , hell in a cell and the IC title match are gonna get the big chunks of time. Between entrances, the match itself, and the post-match pomp and pageantry, the main event could take a full hour of screen time. Bianca vs. Asuka could get a good chunk of time, let's not allow the poor build to undersell what will, in all likelihood, be a very good match. The Intercontinental Championship will probably get about 15 to 20 minutes bell-to-bell, considering Gunther vs. Sheamus at Clash at the Castle went almost 20. Edge vs. Finn Balor could probably get about 25-30 minutes of ring time based on the last few Hell in a Cell match times. Brock Lesnar vs. Omos will be an absolute sprint. I can't imagine that match getting more than 5-8 minutes tops. And the Women's Tag Showcase could probably get 10 or so minutes bell-to-bell, enough time for everyone involved to get their stuff in. Add in some backstage shenanigans, a presumed spot involving The Miz as host, and maybe something with LA Knight or Bobby Lashley, and they'll round it out where I'm confident Sunday has time to fully tell its stories.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Mar 30, 2023 10:37:53 GMT -5
Yeah Cena is the biggest name on either Wrestlemania card so him being the main face to put on the ads for ESPN is likely for that simple reason and not meaning that it’s going on last.
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Post by mistery on Mar 30, 2023 10:39:29 GMT -5
To add onto this, Bianca/Asuka going on Night 2 adds fuel to the fire that Asuka may just end up winning the title. Bianca hits one year as champ on Saturday night/Sunday morning. Originally it was announced as a night 1 match, if Kevin Patrick is to be believed (not that I do, but still).
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Mar 30, 2023 10:47:23 GMT -5
OK they can actually go to hell if they think anything but the tag titles should main event
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Post by Nosnorb on Mar 30, 2023 11:58:44 GMT -5
What are WWE thinking, putting Dom vs Rey and Charlotte vs Rhea on the same night? Think of how much work Rhea has to do and how much punishment Dom will take.
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Post by cornettesracket on Mar 30, 2023 12:11:15 GMT -5
Nothing about those line ups strike me as bad, but given that there’s a tweet from the official WWE wrestle mania twitter account where it says that theory and Cena were opening night 1, I’m a bit confused as to why that’s changed.
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Post by "The Natural" Bustin Loads on Mar 30, 2023 12:11:47 GMT -5
I was really hoping Rey/Dominik would be on Night 2. Should be fun all the same - Triple Threat, Roman/Cody and the HIAC should be a good spectacle. Bianca/Asuka too but I wish it had more heat.
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Post by Renslayer on Mar 30, 2023 12:13:02 GMT -5
Thinking of night 2. Do they open with the tag match or the cell?
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Mar 30, 2023 12:22:55 GMT -5
Nothing about those line ups strike me as bad, but given that there’s a tweet from the official WWE wrestle mania twitter accost where it says that theory and Cena were opening night 1, I’m a bit confused as to why that’s changed. My guess is it hasn't changed. They're saying it "headlines" because they want casual fans to tune in but it'll still open. UPDATE: Fightful confirmed it's still opening.
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Post by msc on Mar 30, 2023 13:00:27 GMT -5
Guessing the tag titles match gets a bunch of time on Night 1 as none of the rest look like they'd very long.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Mar 30, 2023 13:03:34 GMT -5
Thinking of night 2. Do they open with the tag match or the cell? I think you go this route: Opener: Drew vs. Sheamus vs. Gunther - IC Title 2nd Match: Brock vs. Omos 3rd Match: Finn vs. Edge - HIAC 4th Match: WrestleMania Women's Showcase Tag Team Match 5th Match: Asuka vs. Bianca - RAW Women's Title 6th Match: Main Event: Cody vs. Roman - Undisputed Universal Title With only six matches on the card, I'm sure they'll have time for cool down periods and all that. Drew/Gunther/Sheamus could set the tone with a fun 12-15 minute sprint where Drew comes out first to get the crowd pumped up, then you get a quick one in Brock/Omos, Finn/Edge get 20-22 mins, then the showcase tag match cools you down from that a bit, then you go back to back with the other two title matches.
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Post by J is Justice on Mar 30, 2023 13:11:58 GMT -5
Those are two great looking cards. "Tag team showcase" made me laugh, though. The tag divisions are so bad.
Having said that, the tag match has to main event, lol.
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Post by cornettesracket on Mar 30, 2023 13:25:20 GMT -5
I have to say I’m hyped up for the event as a whole and I think HHH has done a good job of keeping the plates spinning until the right moment and bar the tag team showcases, all the matches have me interested in some way and most I’m very invested in. Is this the best built and booked mania card in years ? I know this might be a huge call, but Roman vs Cody imo has the potential to be an all time great mania main event ever.
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