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Post by Goldash #BLM on Apr 2, 2023 23:34:01 GMT -5
You know it’s bad because there’s often a lot I enjoy in WWE, and I can look past some of the dumb shit they’ll do because they’ll feature high caliber talent and presentation. But I can’t help but second the folks saying that this booking choice is going to bite them in the ass. We’ve seen hot business periods like this in wrestling history get derailed by one or two major booking decisions alone. This was Fingerpoke Of Doom-tier stupidity. My sentiments exactly. I'm fairly unbothered when it comes to a lot of stuff like this. I'll give any promotion credit when it's due. This is just not it. They're going for title reigns and statistics when we've been told that none of that really matters in WWE unless the writers feel it's important enough. There's only so much heat you can draw until it's the dreaded "wrong kind". I think it's too early to say if this will affect ratings or attendance, but hell if this doesn't feel like Starrcade 97 all over again. Unfortunately, the "imminent" sale means WWE won't see any financial repercussions, so this isn't anywhere near being the "beginning of the end" as Alvarez and Reynolds said in their book. But it still sucks from a creative standpoint and destroys a lot of the goodwill built in the months since HHH took over creative.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Apr 2, 2023 23:34:09 GMT -5
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Post by sfvega on Apr 2, 2023 23:34:31 GMT -5
That is unbelievably close to what was for the most part an insane wrestling show.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Apr 2, 2023 23:34:37 GMT -5
"Let's just wait and see." It's been 3 years of LOLROMANWINS, WWE has superglued themselves to that pot, they ain't going to use it and they never will. Seriously, even if literally tomorrow night is Cody winning it clean as a sheet after spending all night Nancy Kerriganing the Bloodline so they can't interfere, I'm never coming back. This was the time Last month was the time. Clash at the Castle was the time Demon Finn was the time Cesaro was the time. Freaking Bryan or Edge was the time.
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Post by asuka007 on Apr 2, 2023 23:36:17 GMT -5
Triple H trying to pretend like this story hasn’t been going on for THREE YEARS!! Almost 1,000 days of every hero in the company being fed to Roman.
Fans have been patient for a LONG TIME. But fans don’t have unlimited patience Hunter.
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Post by knightboat on Apr 2, 2023 23:37:02 GMT -5
Also, I'm reminded of Slammiversary that one year when an injured Kurt Angle beats up and coming new star Bobby Roode. James Storm won the title the next Impact. The problem is, who's Cody's James Storm? Who's Cody's boy who can step up for him? Tag team champion Sami Zayn? Dustin Rhodes? Randy Orton reforming Legacy? Ted Jr.? CM Punk? Who is it?
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Apr 2, 2023 23:37:10 GMT -5
I’m just gonna get this out there once and be done with it. I lost my dad three years ago to COVID and he’s the reason I watch wrestling. I think part of the reason I’ve been so into the Cody story is that he’s been through the same loss. His run has felt like wrestling to me again instead of some weird post-pandemic fever dream.
Then they go pull this tonight and I’m left here like what’s the point of watching this stuff if they just don’t give the fans one happy moment? If this was like the first 6 months or year that’s one thing, but this has been 3 f***ing years of depressing finish after depressing finish.
Even if the guy wins at SummerSlam, this was the night. They won’t get this one back.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 2, 2023 23:37:35 GMT -5
That is unbelievably close to what was for the most part an insane wrestling show. I got a shit ton of pics WWE going to post in a separate thread but probably say f*** it It was a really entertaining night. Internet fan favorites lost but people tend to forget that the people they lost to are also fam favorites
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Post by sfvega on Apr 2, 2023 23:39:27 GMT -5
“The story never finishes” Yeah, it didn’t with Hogan and Andre. Didn’t with Shawn and Bret. Shawn and Austin. Bryan. Ffs To be fair those first two were over two decades ago. WrestleMania 14 has been old enough to get shit faced legally for years. The fans had to literally threaten to shit all over Batista vs Orton and forced Vince to pull the trigger on Bryan. That was also the launch of the Network. They had a shitton at stake at the time financially to make sure a lot of eyes were on WM. If they torpedoed the PPV model for nothing, it would have been a disaster. They needed that Bryan moment.
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Post by CMWaters on Apr 2, 2023 23:40:15 GMT -5
Also, I'm reminded of Slammiversary that one year when an injured Kurt Angle beats up and coming new star Bobby Roode. James Storm won the title the next Impact. The problem is, who's Cody's James Storm? Who's Cody's boy who can step up for him? Tag team champion Sami Zayn? Dustin Rhodes? Randy Orton reforming Legacy? Ted Jr.? CM Punk? Who is it? Rollins.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Apr 2, 2023 23:41:28 GMT -5
Triple H trying to pretend like this story hasn’t been going on for THREE YEARS!! Almost 1,000 days of every hero in the company being fed to Roman. Fans have been patient for a LONG TIME. But fans don’t have unlimited patience Hunter. I think Edge isn’t brought up as a victim of all this as much as he should either. Guy couldn’t win the big one on the ten year anniversary of his retirement because WE THE ONES BABY. It’s boring garbage.
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Post by knightboat on Apr 2, 2023 23:43:34 GMT -5
Triple H trying to pretend like this story hasn’t been going on for THREE YEARS!! Almost 1,000 days of every hero in the company being fed to Roman. Fans have been patient for a LONG TIME. But fans don’t have unlimited patience Hunter. I think Edge isn’t brought up as a victim of all this as much as he should either. Guy couldn’t win the big one on the ten year anniversary of his retirement because WE THE ONES BABY. It’s boring garbage. Yeah Edge winning back the title he never actually lost did make sense to me. I was very surprised when he didn't win.
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Post by ToyfareMark on Apr 2, 2023 23:45:44 GMT -5
The match was great, that's all that matters. It's really not at this point. I know enjoyment of wrestling can't be boiled down to just who won vs who lost, but it's quality of stories and satisfaction of being a viewer. Some shows are "The Wire" and "Breaking Bad," and some are just "Dexter." Ok this is just my opinion, and I'm not trying to make anyone feel differently But supposedly there are only 6 types of story plots that have ever been told. Overcoming the monster Rags to riches The quest Voyage and return Comedy Tragedy Rebirth We've seen all of these in wrestling countless times over and over again. And since wrestling has severe limitations on how they can tell these stories compared to films, TV shows, video games, ect. So for me at that point it simply becomes about the performance, and in the case of wrestling the matches themselves. And in this case I loved the match. Again just my opinion, I get why people are upset about it, and that's fair.
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Post by knightboat on Apr 2, 2023 23:45:51 GMT -5
Also, I'm reminded of Slammiversary that one year when an injured Kurt Angle beats up and coming new star Bobby Roode. James Storm won the title the next Impact. The problem is, who's Cody's James Storm? Who's Cody's boy who can step up for him? Tag team champion Sami Zayn? Dustin Rhodes? Randy Orton reforming Legacy? Ted Jr.? CM Punk? Who is it? Rollins. I thought of him, but they're rivals not boys. He and Cody killed each other for a long time. Also, Cody beat him 100 matches straight or so. Is he supposed to be more credible than Cody?
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Apr 2, 2023 23:46:52 GMT -5
It'll be more heartbreaking when it turns out they're waiting for him to lose them to the Rock at 50 years old. When Roman's 50, right?
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Post by DichEvans on Apr 2, 2023 23:47:13 GMT -5
You know it’s bad because there’s often a lot I enjoy in WWE, and I can look past some of the dumb shit they’ll do because they’ll feature high caliber talent and presentation. But I can’t help but second the folks saying that this booking choice is going to bite them in the ass. We’ve seen hot business periods like this in wrestling history get derailed by one or two major booking decisions alone. This was Fingerpoke Of Doom-tier stupidity. My sentiments exactly. I'm fairly unbothered when it comes to a lot of stuff like this. I'll give any promotion credit when it's due. This is just not it. They're going for title reigns and statistics when we've been told that none of that really matters in WWE unless the writers feel it's important enough. There's only so much heat you can draw until it's the dreaded "wrong kind". I think it's too early to say if this will affect ratings or attendance, but hell if this doesn't feel like Starrcade 97 all over again. Unfortunately, the "imminent" sale means WWE won't see any financial repercussions, so this isn't anywhere near being the "beginning of the end" as Alvarez and Reynolds said in their book. But it still sucks from a creative standpoint and destroys a lot of the goodwill built in the months since HHH took over creative. Personally, I have spent a few grand going to the last few Manias and big shows. It kinda gets tiring spending that much money and leaving an event disappointed. While WWE is a continuous story, it's business model is closer to that of a sports team than a traditional TV show. When sports teams continuously send fans home feeling disappointed, their consumers start to consume less.
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Post by knightboat on Apr 2, 2023 23:50:04 GMT -5
Is Fast X Part 2 coming out around next year's Mania? Because if it is, I think we've got our confirmation.
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Post by CMWaters on Apr 2, 2023 23:51:11 GMT -5
Rollins. I thought of him, but they're rivals not boys. He and Cody killed each other for a long time. Also, Cody beat him 100 matches straight or so. Is he supposed to be more credible than Cody? I was just thinking more the fact that Roman hasn't pinned or submitted Rollins during this run. Closest was the DQ ending at Rumble 22
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Apr 2, 2023 23:53:03 GMT -5
My sentiments exactly. I'm fairly unbothered when it comes to a lot of stuff like this. I'll give any promotion credit when it's due. This is just not it. They're going for title reigns and statistics when we've been told that none of that really matters in WWE unless the writers feel it's important enough. There's only so much heat you can draw until it's the dreaded "wrong kind". I think it's too early to say if this will affect ratings or attendance, but hell if this doesn't feel like Starrcade 97 all over again. Unfortunately, the "imminent" sale means WWE won't see any financial repercussions, so this isn't anywhere near being the "beginning of the end" as Alvarez and Reynolds said in their book. But it still sucks from a creative standpoint and destroys a lot of the goodwill built in the months since HHH took over creative. Personally, I have spent a few grand going to the last few Manias and big shows. It kinda gets tiring spending that much money and leaving an event disappointed. While WWE is a continuous story, it's business model is closer to that of a sports team than a traditional TV show. When sports teams continuously send fans home feeling disappointed, their consumers start to consume less. At this point the WWE is like the Marvel movies where if every one of those movies ends with the heroes failing to stop Thanos and promising that the hero of the next movie will finally do it.
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Post by ayumidah on Apr 2, 2023 23:57:41 GMT -5
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