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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Feb 11, 2023 8:16:26 GMT -5
Anyone think Damage CTRL might lose the titles to Liv and Raquel before Mania and we get Liv and Raquel vs. Shayna and Ronda? That leaves Damage CTRL to face Becky, Lita and Trish. I have a sneaking feeling it'll be time to rock and roll on Monday and then we get that match at EC in Canada. But if that doesn't happen, I do think that yeah, there's a chance.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 11, 2023 8:25:20 GMT -5
Anyone think Damage CTRL might lose the titles to Liv and Raquel before Mania and we get Liv and Raquel vs. Shayna and Ronda? That leaves Damage CTRL to face Becky, Lita and Trish. I have a sneaking feeling it'll be time to rock and roll on Monday and then we get that match at EC in Canada. But if that doesn't happen, I do think that yeah, there's a chance. Yeah I can see that too, just seems like a rush of a build. Plus stacking the EC show when these off-month PPVs are usually fairly short.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 11, 2023 11:41:23 GMT -5
Yeah, so def going to miss SD cause I won't get there until that night
But be at Mania the two days and probably go to RAW as well before my flight
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Post by mistery on Feb 11, 2023 12:20:08 GMT -5
Anyone think Damage CTRL might lose the titles to Liv and Raquel before Mania and we get Liv and Raquel vs. Shayna and Ronda? That leaves Damage CTRL to face Becky, Lita and Trish. I don't think so. Dave has been pretty adamant the plan is Damage CTRL vs Ronda/Shayna at Mania. Now its possible they add Raquel and Liv to the match so there is an actual face group but still. Also the guy who leaks all the stuff on Reddit is claiming Lita only has one match left on her contract. And it won't be part of a six woman tag.
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Post by papagiorgio on Feb 11, 2023 13:06:13 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised if there was a Rhonda/Bayzler vs. Damage Control vs. Liv/Raquel vs a 4th team (perhaps Piper and Cross) at Mania. I think like the last few Manias there will be a tag match trying to fit in most of the women they can.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Feb 11, 2023 14:20:14 GMT -5
Reading this thread and reflecting on the Cody vs. Sami debate makes me think about the differences between coronating a king versus electing a leader.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 11, 2023 20:12:46 GMT -5
Anyone think Damage CTRL might lose the titles to Liv and Raquel before Mania and we get Liv and Raquel vs. Shayna and Ronda? That leaves Damage CTRL to face Becky, Lita and Trish. I don't think so. Dave has been pretty adamant the plan is Damage CTRL vs Ronda/Shayna at Mania. Now its possible they add Raquel and Liv to the match so there is an actual face group but still. Also the guy who leaks all the stuff on Reddit is claiming Lita only has one match left on her contract. And it won't be part of a six woman tag. Dave has not been pretty adamant, he posted that once in last week’s newsletter. As of this morning on the radio show, the co-host brought up a potential booking of Liv/Raquel winning the titles and facing Shayna/Ronda with Lita/Trish/Becky in the 6 person tag and Dave pretty much said yeah they could potentially do that. And the Reddit insider didn’t say Lita won’t be used in a 6 woman tag. In fact he said they wouldn’t be having the match at EC and that any info about that was old news; that they were building up to the Becky/Lita / Damage CTRL situation.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Feb 11, 2023 23:06:21 GMT -5
Kevin Owens being a tag title win away from being a Grand Slam Champion and the potential to achieve that by winning the tag titles with Sami is too much of a perfect storm to pass up.
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Post by bob on Feb 11, 2023 23:14:53 GMT -5
as an aside to this years Wrestlemania... I can't seem to find anywhere to pre-order this years Wresltemania on DVD or bluray it's the end of an era
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Post by theironyuppie on Feb 12, 2023 4:16:29 GMT -5
Kevin Owens being a tag title win away from being a Grand Slam Champion and the potential to achieve that by winning the tag titles with Sami is too much of a perfect storm to pass up.
A year for grand slams. Rhea winning the SD title would also be a unique grand slam due to her being the first NXT UK women's champ.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Feb 12, 2023 5:06:33 GMT -5
I don't think so. Dave has been pretty adamant the plan is Damage CTRL vs Ronda/Shayna at Mania. Now its possible they add Raquel and Liv to the match so there is an actual face group but still. Also the guy who leaks all the stuff on Reddit is claiming Lita only has one match left on her contract. And it won't be part of a six woman tag. Dave has not been pretty adamant, he posted that once in last week’s newsletter. As of this morning on the radio show, the co-host brought up a potential booking of Liv/Raquel winning the titles and facing Shayna/Ronda with Lita/Trish/Becky in the 6 person tag and Dave pretty much said yeah they could potentially do that. And the Reddit insider didn’t say Lita won’t be used in a 6 woman tag. In fact he said they wouldn’t be having the match at EC and that any info about that was old news; that they were building up to the Becky/Lita / Damage CTRL situation. I see Liv and Raquel being added to the tag title match in some way. I can't see either getting left off the card and that's really the only spot I can see them fitting into. I guess one of them could win the chamber but then if so where does that leave the other one? As well as Asuka who is another person too important to be left off. It also kind of makes Asuka winning the chamber more likely to me as Liv and Raquel are both on Smackdown so they can at least still team together in whatever the tag title match is. Asuka is on Raw so there wouldn't be anyone she would be able to team with if she doesn't win. I know it's rumored but Damage CTRL against Shayna and Ronda just seems like such an odd match to me. Two a-hole heel teams against each other. I just don't see how that would work at all. Them adding a couple of other teams sounds more likely. Liv and Raquel beating Damage CTRL before Mania and then facing Ronda and Shayna and then Damage CTRL facing Becky/Lita/Trish sounds a lot better and would make way more sense.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 12, 2023 5:12:51 GMT -5
There's been a few loose alliances being set up in the division in the last few weeks. Wouldn't surprise me if a gauntlet was on the cards.
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Post by mistery on Feb 12, 2023 7:53:03 GMT -5
I think at the end of the day, it would be a mistake for Shayna and Ronda to win the tag titles. Ronda isn't even remotely special anymore (and has regressed in every single aspect of the business), and Shayna is well beyond damaged goods.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 12, 2023 8:24:40 GMT -5
I think at the end of the day, it would be a mistake for Shayna and Ronda to win the tag titles. Ronda isn't even remotely special anymore (and has regressed in every single aspect of the business), and Shayna is well beyond damaged goods. I think they’d be a fun heel team for faces to team against. Why not? They’d surely be doing more with them than Damage CTRL I’d imagine (and are more over).
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Post by gl83 on Feb 12, 2023 8:42:40 GMT -5
I think at the end of the day, it would be a mistake for Shayna and Ronda to win the tag titles. Ronda isn't even remotely special anymore (and has regressed in every single aspect of the business), and Shayna is well beyond damaged goods. I think they’d be a fun heel team for faces to team against. Why not? They’d surely be doing more with them than Damage CTRL I’d imagine (and are more over). If Smackdown was any indication, Ronda's overness is debatable. They'll probably be doing the same as Damage Ctrl. The problem isn't the tag champs, the problem is everything around them as in the lack of any tag teams. Raquel & Liv aren't going to be in the tag division, they're probably going to be gunning for Rhea Ripley(after she beats Charlotte for the SD Women's title). It's just going to be a continuation of what we've been getting for the past year. Top girls being put in random teams just to kill time until it's their turn to go after their respective Brand's title; or a new set of problems, where it's a bunch of midcard girls forming random teams, who no one believes even have a chance of winning the titles from Ronda/Shayna.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Feb 12, 2023 18:08:51 GMT -5
Damage CTRL v Ronda and Shayna sounds horrible. Like maybe it could’ve worked if the latter were booked as like badass tweeners in the feud but on Smackdown they were positioned as all out heels.
Damage CTRL v Becky/Lita/Trish would be the way bigger match. Iyo and Dakota can drop the tag titles on TV in the next month and they can be defended in a multi team match with the likes of Ronda/Shayna and Liv/Raquel.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 12, 2023 20:54:13 GMT -5
Damage CTRL v Ronda and Shayna sounds horrible. Like maybe it could’ve worked if the latter were booked as like badass tweeners in the feud but on Smackdown they were positioned as all out heels. Damage CTRL v Becky/Lita/Trish would be the way bigger match. Iyo and Dakota can drop the tag titles on TV in the next month and they can be defended in a multi team match with the likes of Ronda/Shayna and Liv/Raquel. I have to think that’s the way they’re going. Makes too much sense and I can’t imagine they’re hotshotting the Becky/Lita match for Elimination Chamber.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Feb 12, 2023 21:07:28 GMT -5
I really wouldn't even bother sticking the Women's Tag titles on the card. It's a division with one team in it and it only ever has one team in it. Even if they stick the belts on Ronda and Shayna they'll probably just break up Damage CTRL after Mania and then Ronda and Shayna will continue to primarily do singles stuff because that's all the Women's Tag champs ever do, the belts are completely useless.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 12, 2023 22:31:15 GMT -5
I really wouldn't even bother sticking the Women's Tag titles on the card. It's a division with one team in it and it only ever has one team in it. Even if they stick the belts on Ronda and Shayna they'll probably just break up Damage CTRL after Mania and then Ronda and Shayna will continue to primarily do singles stuff because that's all the Women's Tag champs ever do, the belts are completely useless. Yeah, but we’re the ones who are going to end up hearing about how WWE hates all women because their favourite women weren’t booked.
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Post by mistery on Feb 13, 2023 9:30:04 GMT -5
Damage CTRL v Ronda and Shayna sounds horrible. Like maybe it could’ve worked if the latter were booked as like badass tweeners in the feud but on Smackdown they were positioned as all out heels. Damage CTRL v Becky/Lita/Trish would be the way bigger match. Iyo and Dakota can drop the tag titles on TV in the next month and they can be defended in a multi team match with the likes of Ronda/Shayna and Liv/Raquel. Ronda and Shayna as tag champs is a bad idea in general. Hell Ronda still even being around is a bad idea. It's very clear now she doesn't give a damn and she has regressed massively in the ring. Stop trying to push her, it's never going to work at this point. Plus we all know that when they do lose the tag titles, it'll be Shayna losing, likely via rollup. Because WWE has this obsession with wanting to protect Ronda as much as possible despite her being one of the worst women on the roster, both in the ring and outside of it. All because she was a former UFC fighter who ended up bombing at the end of her run in the UFC. WWE has to realize she isn't a draw anymore, because she has no charisma and is an awful performer in the ring more often than not. As for Damage CTRL, unless the plan is for them to go over Becky/Lita/Trish, don't book the match, in my opinion. In this era, legends shouldn't be coming back just to go over full time talents for one off matches. WWE has a LOT of work to do in order to rehab Dakota and Iyo, especially Iyo. Them losing to Trish and Lita doesn't help them in the slightest. Because they are damaged to the point where another major less pretty much puts them just one small step above Dana Brooke territory. And I can't see any of them holding the RAW or SD Women's Title within the next couple of years because of how poorly they've been booked, especially if they can't beat Trish and Lita.
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