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Post by theironyuppie on Feb 1, 2023 0:27:49 GMT -5
It's not necessarily the length that's the problem so much as how few memorable moments there's been over that time. Unfortunately her feuds with Bayley/CTRL and Alexa were just there, and just there isn't really enough when you're meant to be a focal point and have the strongest booking in the company. A lot of the problem is they lack credible challengers to feed her who also feel fresh. Rhea was the one but when they booked it they had to scrap it due to injury and now have decided to go in another direction now when they had the opportunity to go back to it. Just look at Bianca's title challengers. Becky, Asuka, Carmella, Bayley, and Alexa. Bianca is supposed to be the new torch bearer and yet she isn't ever feuding with anyone who has come up with her. Instead she's dealing with girls who all been around six to eight years and quite frankly are stale and in the cases of Carmella and Alexa are subpar in the ring on top of it so you aren't going to get even get a good match out of them. Like if you had Bianca feuding with Rhea, Raquel, and Iyo and women in the same NXT class it would be a lot better and a lot more interesting instead of her dealing with nothing but the survivors of the previous era. It's why you need more turnover on your roster where you have to bring more NXT women up that are ready every so often and start phasing out the women who have outlived their usefulness.
Maybe that will be easier to do after the next draft, though I will say that I wasn't really impressed by either of the Bianca/Iyo matches on Raw last year.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 1, 2023 0:51:25 GMT -5
Asuka or maybe Liv if they're winning, Liv is also fine if she retains. If Bianca is for-sure retaining, Raquel.
Ronda is a possibility, sure, but part of me feels like that'd be a waste for 'Mania unless Ronda's leaving and Bianca's beating her for her exit.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 1:05:39 GMT -5
has to be asuka
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Feb 1, 2023 1:25:08 GMT -5
*Googles 'Female celebrity who is toxic and did/said horrible things* Silk of Diamond and Silk and it'll net them a 6.3 million rating.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Feb 1, 2023 1:40:02 GMT -5
Only people I wouldn’t have a problem with are Asuka and Piper. Not really interested if the challenger’s anyone else.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 1, 2023 1:45:08 GMT -5
Only people I wouldn’t have a problem with are Asuka and Piper. Not really interested if the challenger’s anyone else. My issue with Piper is, unless she's winning it, this would be a match we've seen many, many times, even if it was when she was Doudrop. If they're trying to build Piper up, feeding her to Bianca would be a really bad idea, even in a "valiant effort" loss. Though, if Piper's winning, then it could be interesting.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Feb 1, 2023 2:01:37 GMT -5
Only people I wouldn’t have a problem with are Asuka and Piper. Not really interested if the challenger’s anyone else. My issue with Piper is, unless she's winning it, this would be a match we've seen many, many times, even if it was when she was Doudrop. If they're trying to build Piper up, feeding her to Bianca would be a really bad idea, even in a "valiant effort" loss. Though, if Piper's winning, then it could be interesting. I made my choices under the assumption that the challenger’s the one winning.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Feb 1, 2023 4:20:40 GMT -5
I will say that I love Asuka and all, would absolutely want her to beat Bianca, but I do kind of have my doubts that, "It's Asuka and she seems to be doing all the same stuff but she cut her hair, painted her face, and got remixed music," is still going to be translating to some massive wave of momentum two months from now even if she does win the Chamber. People have been wanting another Asuka title push for ages anyway, this was just the impetus to try and get the non-committed on the bandwagon. Yeah, it's not like Asuka is ever not over... she's always one of the people the crowd are pretty much waiting to cheer for, and is like... always credible just from her history alone.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Feb 1, 2023 5:39:10 GMT -5
I like Asuka, but she seems to make people too emotional. Like, she looked strong at the Rumble and could easily win the EC, but then unless she beat Bianca we'd be back to everyone being mad and making out she's a jobber.
It's clearly not going to be a featured match at WM and Bel Air will almost certainly win, so just give it to Liv.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 1, 2023 6:41:51 GMT -5
People have been wanting another Asuka title push for ages anyway, this was just the impetus to try and get the non-committed on the bandwagon. Yeah, it's not like Asuka is ever not over... she's always one of the people the crowd are pretty much waiting to cheer for, and is like... always credible just from her history alone. Yeah, won titles off of the big names, like beating Becky and Charlotte in a ladder match, right? One could honestly make the argument she's the most accomplished Asian wrestler in WWE history, it really just comes down to how one decides to weigh her and Nakamura's accomplishments.
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Post by grungesmurf on Feb 1, 2023 6:45:46 GMT -5
Don't be shocked if it's Charlotte.... Walks out of Mania with 2 belts and a 365 day reign of terror. Eww
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Post by J is Justice on Feb 1, 2023 7:07:46 GMT -5
I hope it's somehow a triple threat with Asuka and Liv.
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Post by mistery on Feb 1, 2023 7:42:38 GMT -5
I like Asuka, but she seems to make people too emotional. Like, she looked strong at the Rumble and could easily win the EC, but then unless she beat Bianca we'd be back to everyone being mad and making out she's a jobber. It's clearly not going to be a featured match at WM and Bel Air will almost certainly win, so just give it to Liv. I kinda doubt Belair is winning because its been pretty damn clear over the past four or five months that her momentum is all but dead, and audiences are no longer caring about her as much. She has cooled off massively, and getting sucked into the Wyattverse for a bit didn't help matters either, along with having two complete stinkers with Alexa. It doesn't help that she is stale character wise as well, and her flaws have been getting more and more glaring the longer this reign goes on. People are also forgetting Bianca beat Liv like 28293 times before MITB last year. Bianca has also never beaten Asuka in singles action. Its always been a DQ finish or stealing the pin in a multi person match. WWE would be foolish not to capitalize on Asuka's momentum coming out of the Rumble, as she came across as the second biggest star that night, only getting outpopped by Sami. People are also vastly underestimating Asuka's chances here if just for the fact that Road Dogg (who sits in creative and has a LOT of input) has mentioned he feels like she wasn't treated super well under Vince, and should be seen as the women's version of Roman Reigns. And Triple H might want to try and do good with her now.
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Post by mj0mn0m on Feb 1, 2023 8:17:54 GMT -5
Definitely Liv Morgan vs. Bianca Belair, it's the biggest match to make in the world right now. Iron women standing victorious in the end makes a GREAT STORY ~ !
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 1, 2023 9:15:32 GMT -5
I’d be most interested in Ronda or Asuka.
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Post by mistery on Feb 1, 2023 9:20:35 GMT -5
I’d be most interested in Ronda or Asuka. I don't think I would be interested in Ronda at this point. She's long past stale, and it's pretty clear she took her ball and went home after dropping the SD Women's Title, considering WWE apparently had to pivot and change up their Rumble title plans because of it. She also sorta buried the singles title scenes, saying she would rather "be in the tag division with Shayna than a singles champion again" on a livestream apparently.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 1, 2023 9:29:04 GMT -5
I’d be most interested in Ronda or Asuka. I don't think I would be interested in Ronda at this point. She's long past stale, and it's pretty clear she took her ball and went home after dropping the SD Women's Title, considering WWE apparently had to pivot and change up their Rumble title plans because of it. She also sorta buried the singles title scenes, saying she would rather "be in the tag division with Shayna than a singles champion again" on a livestream apparently. I still enjoy her work a lot and she still has an aura about her that makes her stuff feel more important than others. Plus, Bianca and Ronda is an intriguing matchup styles wise and would be fun. I love Asuka too but we’ve seen Bianca and Asuka before.
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Post by mistery on Feb 1, 2023 9:34:00 GMT -5
I don't think I would be interested in Ronda at this point. She's long past stale, and it's pretty clear she took her ball and went home after dropping the SD Women's Title, considering WWE apparently had to pivot and change up their Rumble title plans because of it. She also sorta buried the singles title scenes, saying she would rather "be in the tag division with Shayna than a singles champion again" on a livestream apparently. I still enjoy her work a lot and she still has an aura about her that makes her stuff feel more important than others. Plus, Bianca and Ronda is an intriguing matchup styles wise and would be fun. I love Asuka too but we’ve seen Bianca and Asuka before. We've seen Asuka/Bianca before yes, but we also haven't seen Bianca straight up beat Asuka clean either. It's always been a no contest, DQ, or stealing the pin. Ronda also brings nothing to the table at this point, she's regressed severely in the ring, and her attitude absolutely sucks. Doesn't help that she's an absolutely god awful promo and her charisma is just as terrible, especially as of late. You also have to figure that WWE will want to feature Asuka somehow, because I doubt they brought back this new version of Asuka just to not make it onto the Mania card, and I don't see her being in the tag division because that would be a waste. Combine that with Road Dogg pretty much clearly making his intentions clear in that he feels like she should be the Roman Reigns of the women's division (and do remember that he's Triple H's right hand man when it comes to creative), and it's not too hard to see them pushing Asuka as the one to dethrone Bianca.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 1, 2023 9:46:01 GMT -5
I still enjoy her work a lot and she still has an aura about her that makes her stuff feel more important than others. Plus, Bianca and Ronda is an intriguing matchup styles wise and would be fun. I love Asuka too but we’ve seen Bianca and Asuka before. We've seen Asuka/Bianca before yes, but we also haven't seen Bianca straight up beat Asuka clean either. It's always been a no contest, DQ, or stealing the pin. Ronda also brings nothing to the table at this point, she's regressed severely in the ring, and her attitude absolutely sucks. Doesn't help that she's an absolutely god awful promo and her charisma is just as terrible, especially as of late. You also have to figure that WWE will want to feature Asuka somehow, because I doubt they brought back this new version of Asuka just to not make it onto the Mania card, and I don't see her being in the tag division because that would be a waste. Combine that with Road Dogg pretty much clearly making his intentions clear in that he feels like she should be the Roman Reigns of the women's division (and do remember that he's Triple H's right hand man when it comes to creative), and it's not too hard to see them pushing Asuka as the one to dethrone Bianca. Road Dogg is not involved in creative, from all reports I’ve seen, so I wouldn’t hold out hope based just on that. He’s in the live events division in a similar role to what Jeff Jarrett had. I do think Asuka is the likely challenger, though. Obviously Triple H is high on her, given how she was pushed in NXT. I think it’s 50/50 that Asuka would actually beat Bianca, though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2023 9:52:58 GMT -5
If Asuka faces Bianca she had be4tter f***ing win or else what was even the point of her returning with the new look and renewed energy they wont capitalize on.
And Bianca's reign much like Romans needs to f***ing end it is a milked cow that is sputtering on dust fumes now , everything has been exhausted with her reign she has beaten everyone and hit every single major accomplishment within 2yrs of getting to the main roster.
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