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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Feb 7, 2023 17:59:35 GMT -5
For all the jokes that were made, for my money the best 2 Star Trek movies, 2 and 6 very much embraced the cast aging.
2 with the mistakes of Kirk's youth catching up with him.
6 with the cast's reaction to a momentous change to the universe and if they can keep up with it.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Feb 7, 2023 18:08:24 GMT -5
"Never Say Never Again" is my favorite Bond film because in part it recognizes Sean Connery was probably too old to be doing 00 shit. Also a bit of a "take that!" to Roger Moore, who was a year older than Sean and still playing the "official" Bond in OCTOPUSSY that same year.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Feb 11, 2023 23:30:39 GMT -5
I watched Death Wish 4: The Crackdown tonight. Here are some thoughts on the series. Death Wish: This one stands out amongst the rest. It’s heavy on the drama and fairly realistic especially compared to what comes later. Death Wish II: This is the one that really turned the series into an action franchise. Watch out for a young Lawrence Fishburne wearing some super 1980’s shades. Also, they got f***ing Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin to do the soundtrack! Death Wish 3: I had the most fun watching this one! Sure, the much more reserved original may technically be better, but this is such over the top fun. Plus, Jimmy Page returns! Heck a pre-Bill and Ted, Alex Winter even pops up. It seems like if they stopped here the series also would have had a clear narrative (well as clear as these kind of franchises get). In the original Bronson became a vigilante. In this one he shows that anyones capable of becoming a vigilante by inspiring the residents of a rundown neighborhood to stand up for themselves. And they’re only too eager to oblige, killing many a gang member in the process. Death Wish 4: The Crackdown: This is the first one Michael Winner didn’t direct. Jimmy Page is gone too. Heck, everyone’s gone except for Bronson and the producers. It’s still plenty of fun, but they definitely pull back a little from how ridiculous 3 was. I’m looking forward to watching Death Wish: The Face of Death sometime soon. It’s the only one in the series that hasn’t made it to Blu-ray, but I got the DVD for $7.99 on Amazon
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Post by Rave on Feb 12, 2023 1:56:17 GMT -5
Mildly surprised no one's mentioned Danny Trejo yet, this is legit a good chunk of his filmography.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Feb 12, 2023 4:20:43 GMT -5
Where does Keanu Reeves fit into this? He’s 58 years old but I don’t think they’ve ever really established John Wick’s age.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Feb 13, 2023 15:44:35 GMT -5
I wrapped up the Death Wish series today.
I won’t spoil it, but I’ll just say a reoccurring theme in this series is if Paul Kersey (Charles Bronson) has a romantic interest in you…run! If he wants to be your friend you may have a better chance of living, but run just in case!
Some good characters are able to make it through the series, but not many. I won’t spoil which movie it happens in but one of my favorite scenes in the whole series is so gratuitous. Kersey says to someone he’s driving with, “One second I have to pick up the mail.” As soon as Kersey leaves a gang shoots the person he’s with and the car goes flying down a hill. The car hits another vehicle and that vehicle explodes. Then the first car explodes.
So don’t be an enemy to Paul Kersey, but also don’t be his friend. Unless you have a Death Wish.
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on Feb 15, 2023 2:29:03 GMT -5
Time to move on to the Robert Bronzi movie, Death Kiss.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Feb 15, 2023 4:01:44 GMT -5
Buddy did catering work on a Bronzi western.
Year later I find the film for 3 bucks in Dollar General. Bought it,still need to watch it.
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Post by Bo Rida on Feb 15, 2023 4:14:12 GMT -5
Logan. A quick Google suggests that Wolverine is at least 197 years old in that movie.
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Post by jason1980s on Feb 15, 2023 10:34:02 GMT -5
I'm glad to see some love for Charles Bronson. I have watched the Death Wish movies multiple times each, probably 10 times for 4. I feel like he's widely forgotten because it's been so long since he passed and he was so much older when he retired and even when he was working and the younger fans really only know what's been around for the last 10-20 years. Without the video stores and being in there and seeing some older films, fans mostly have to search out older titles that they already know, online, that they want to buy or rent. I really can't get into Bronson's movies unless it's a Death Wish action type show and I feel like he did most in the early to mid 1980s. It's not his acting but moreso just the type of movies I like.
I rank the Death Wish movies as best to worst and nothing was really bad: 4 3 2 1 5
I loved the plot of 4 and being tricked to go after the mob members. The killings almost seem non stop whereas the other movies are fewer between. 3 was incredible and those bad guys were scary as crap but 4 is still the top one for me. 2 and 1 are probably considered the classics but I think they were still trying to find their footing. 5 seemed like it lost its footing, Bronson was your grandfather's age dating a woman your mother's age and though the plot made sense (him going after the ex of the girlfriend) it just was a much slower feel and nothing near as good as 3 and 4. It was obvious this was the end for him with the series.
I liked the Bruce Willis version probably better then the original 2, 1, 5. Changing up the character's career while still keeping the wife and daughter plot was good. Only thing I didn't like and its more so maybe him being a TV show guy or the second guy in movies but I don't like movies where Vincent D'Onofrio is just kind of there. The guy was a powerhouse on Law & Order Criminal Intent. He pretty much could have done a whole show to himself with extras coming in here and there-no other main cast but in movies he's never the leading man, that I see.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Feb 15, 2023 10:55:23 GMT -5
I'm glad to see some love for Charles Bronson. I have watched the Death Wish movies multiple times each, probably 10 times for 4. I feel like he's widely forgotten because it's been so long since he passed and he was so much older when he retired and even when he was working and the younger fans really only know what's been around for the last 10-20 years. Without the video stores and being in there and seeing some older films, fans mostly have to search out older titles that they already know, online, that they want to buy or rent. I really can't get into Bronson's movies unless it's a Death Wish action type show and I feel like he did most in the early to mid 1980s. It's not his acting but moreso just the type of movies I like. I rank the Death Wish movies as best to worst and nothing was really bad: 4 3 2 1 5 I loved the plot of 4 and being tricked to go after the mob members. The killings almost seem non stop whereas the other movies are fewer between. 3 was incredible and those bad guys were scary as crap but 4 is still the top one for me. 2 and 1 are probably considered the classics but I think they were still trying to find their footing. 5 seemed like it lost its footing, Bronson was your grandfather's age dating a woman your mother's age and though the plot made sense (him going after the ex of the girlfriend) it just was a much slower feel and nothing near as good as 3 and 4. It was obvious this was the end for him with the series. I liked the Bruce Willis version probably better then the original 2, 1, 5. Changing up the character's career while still keeping the wife and daughter plot was good. Only thing I didn't like and its more so maybe him being a TV show guy or the second guy in movies but I don't like movies where Vincent D'Onofrio is just kind of there. The guy was a powerhouse on Law & Order Criminal Intent. He pretty much could have done a whole show to himself with extras coming in here and there-no other main cast but in movies he's never the leading man, that I see. Thank you for the insight! I really had a kick watching all of them. I’m sure if we asked the right film professor he’d drone on about why 1 was the best, but for pure enjoyment I’d go… 3 2 4 5 1 1 has a distinct feel and works as a stand-alone movie. The other 4 are in their own insane universe with 2 functioning as a very wonky bridge. 4 takes a step back from the insanity of 3, but it’s because the Yojimbo inspired plot makes more sense. It’s comparably violent with a 61 person body count! I just love how in 3 the residents of this long abused neighborhood all turn into maniacs. Heck the least crazy guy is the one who’s wife gets raped and later dies. Instead of gunning gang members down he literally holds Bronson’s ammo chain as he is annihilating people lol. 5 was better than I thought it would be. Michael Parks plays a really charismatic but totally hatable villains. There’s really no weak entry in the series. I’d be tempted to check out the Bruce Willis remake, but don’t have it handy and have too much on my unwatched pile at the moment. I plan next to watch some really bad horror movies then relevant to this thread may revisit the Dirty Harry series
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Post by jason1980s on Feb 15, 2023 11:43:41 GMT -5
5 was better than I thought it would be. Michael Parks plays a really charismatic but totally hatable villains. There’s really no weak entry in the series. I’d be tempted to check out the Bruce Willis remake, but don’t have it handy and have too much on my unwatched pile at the moment. I plan next to watch some really bad horror movies then relevant to this thread may revisit the Dirty Harry series Frakker and Tommy are legit scary in 3 and 5. Like the mob guys were just goofy compared to how evil those other two were. What is early Simpsons obsession with Bronson? Was it just the voice being so funny or did a writer have a thing for him as an actor? There was the scene shown early (I wish I was dead) and then a young Charles Bronson telling his mother, with the same voice as his, "this ain't ova" and also a guy who was either in one or a few episodes who had the same voice. He was the guy who said "move it fatty, we have an installation to installate." Not sure if it was the same episode but he also said "I got a movie for ya. A fridge too far." It just seems like the Bronson voice was a theme that would occur over various seasons rather than a one off like that Clint Eastwood parody.
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Post by schma on Feb 15, 2023 11:50:37 GMT -5
5 was better than I thought it would be. Michael Parks plays a really charismatic but totally hatable villains. There’s really no weak entry in the series. I’d be tempted to check out the Bruce Willis remake, but don’t have it handy and have too much on my unwatched pile at the moment. I plan next to watch some really bad horror movies then relevant to this thread may revisit the Dirty Harry series Frakker and Tommy are legit scary in 3 and 5. Like the mob guys were just goofy compared to how evil those other two were. What is early Simpsons obsession with Bronson? Was it just the voice being so funny or did a writer have a thing for him as an actor? There was the scene shown early (I wish I was dead) and then a young Charles Bronson telling his mother, with the same voice as his, "this ain't ova" and also a guy who was either in one or a few episodes who had the same voice. He was the guy who said "move it fatty, we have an installation to installate." Not sure if it was the same episode but he also said "I got a movie for ya. A fridge too far." It just seems like the Bronson voice was a theme that would occur over various seasons rather than a one off like that Clint Eastwood parody. I don't think they looked at it as a Bronson voice. It was more just a go to voice for quick punchlines.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Feb 15, 2023 13:00:50 GMT -5
5 was better than I thought it would be. Michael Parks plays a really charismatic but totally hatable villains. There’s really no weak entry in the series. I’d be tempted to check out the Bruce Willis remake, but don’t have it handy and have too much on my unwatched pile at the moment. I plan next to watch some really bad horror movies then relevant to this thread may revisit the Dirty Harry series Frakker and Tommy are legit scary in 3 and 5. Like the mob guys were just goofy compared to how evil those other two were. What is early Simpsons obsession with Bronson? Was it just the voice being so funny or did a writer have a thing for him as an actor? There was the scene shown early (I wish I was dead) and then a young Charles Bronson telling his mother, with the same voice as his, "this ain't ova" and also a guy who was either in one or a few episodes who had the same voice. He was the guy who said "move it fatty, we have an installation to installate." Not sure if it was the same episode but he also said "I got a movie for ya. A fridge too far." It just seems like the Bronson voice was a theme that would occur over various seasons rather than a one off like that Clint Eastwood parody. I think they’ve used it even fairly recently though I can’t think of any examples. They talked about it on the DVD commentary, but I don’t remember the specifics. I know one board member has mentioned listening to Simpsons commentaries more than the actual episodes so maybe he can pop up and fill us in
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Feb 15, 2023 16:46:14 GMT -5
Watched a great entry in this genre the other day The Evil that Men Do with Charles Bronson. Not a Cannon film I was surprised. But Charles is reitred,to a private island he owns,assassin for hire. He learns that a buddy is South America is being harassed by a group of Nazis that also have ties to the KKK. Insane Bronson early 80s action. That just got a nice uncut release from Shout. You get the TV cut,which has a few short bits in no other cut,the theatrical cut. Then the unrated cut. Later on I will ask my father for more good entries in this genre. He watchs piles of them off Netflix/Tubi/Amazon Prime. Thanks to Tubi I've watched so many Charles Bronson movies lately. They're all basically the same and I love them. 10 Minutes to Midnight is another great one.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2023 17:56:01 GMT -5
Liam Neeson has to be the poster boy for this. I just wish they'd expand his material. Even when its not Taken he's saving a kidnapped person or something. Why not a movie where he's an old.man in the military on his last mission or have him be an old gaigin ninja or something.
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Post by XIII on Feb 15, 2023 18:04:01 GMT -5
Deathwish 1 is understandable. Dude had enough and went out to kill these murdering assholes. Can't remember 2.
3 is the magnum opus of the genre those street punks got the ass whooping of the millenium complete with a board with a nail in it booby trap. Some fun ultraviolence. lol
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Post by jason1980s on Feb 15, 2023 23:29:39 GMT -5
I googled Simpsons Charles Bronson. They also did a parody of the Andy Griffith Show, I forgot that one. Then they had the Simpsons go to or get lost in "Bronson MO" The voice guy is Raphael which I just learned his name and that he's been in a lot of episodes.
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Post by schma on Feb 16, 2023 4:12:21 GMT -5
I googled Simpsons Charles Bronson. They also did a parody of the Andy Griffith Show, I forgot that one. Then they had the Simpsons go to or get lost in "Bronson MO" The voice guy is Raphael which I just learned his name and that he's been in a lot of episodes. Now I'm going to Emmet's Fix-it Shop to...fix Emmet.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 16, 2023 4:23:56 GMT -5
I googled Simpsons Charles Bronson. They also did a parody of the Andy Griffith Show, I forgot that one. Then they had the Simpsons go to or get lost in "Bronson MO" The voice guy is Raphael which I just learned his name and that he's been in a lot of episodes. Raphael is probably my favourite background character on The Simpsons based purely on the voice alone.
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