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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 4, 2023 14:39:39 GMT -5
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Feb 4, 2023 14:53:07 GMT -5
Translation: "We're going to pay NXT talent less than a livable wage now".
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Feb 4, 2023 14:56:35 GMT -5
Will have to see how this actually plays out before deciding on what I think about it. In theory, it should speed up development. But so far, it's just a partnership with an indie run by a WWE employee which is pretty minor. If it's talent working a bunch of indies all over the country with little restriction, then great. But if it comes with restrictions on who else the indies can work with in order to get access to the NXT talent, then I'm less high on it.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Feb 4, 2023 15:10:53 GMT -5
Von Wagner in DPW, let’s go
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 4, 2023 15:29:18 GMT -5
Will have to see how this actually plays out before deciding on what I think about it. In theory, it should speed up development. But so far, it's just a partnership with an indie run by a WWE employee which is pretty minor. If it's talent working a bunch of indies all over the country with little restriction, then great. But if it comes with restrictions on who else the indies can work with in order to get access to the NXT talent, then I'm less high on it. Can’t see how it can be a negative on the talent development end, even with likely restrictions. Also funny that the first two immediate replies to the news is to think of the possible negatives. |
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Feb 4, 2023 15:55:19 GMT -5
Will have to see how this actually plays out before deciding on what I think about it. In theory, it should speed up development. But so far, it's just a partnership with an indie run by a WWE employee which is pretty minor. If it's talent working a bunch of indies all over the country with little restriction, then great. But if it comes with restrictions on who else the indies can work with in order to get access to the NXT talent, then I'm less high on it. Can’t see how it can be a negative on the talent development end, even with likely restrictions. Also funny that the first two immediate replies to the news is to think of the possible negatives. It's less about negatives for the NXT talent and more about a company with an incredible amount of power in the industry having a potential new mechanism for using that power. I'm not surprised to see people think of potential negatives. And my post did acknowledge that we'll have to wait and see. |
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Feb 4, 2023 17:54:02 GMT -5
Evolve is gone, they let their deals with all those British indies they had agreements with expire. What indies are left out there that the WWE is on good enough terms with that they'd be willing to work with on this?
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Post by Error on Feb 4, 2023 18:05:25 GMT -5
Evolve is gone, they let their deals with all those British indies they had agreements with expire. What indies are left out there that the WWE is on good enough terms with that they'd be willing to work with on this? Booker's fed in Houston, ROW, has Ivy Nile coming in. I wouldn't be shocked to see them work with GCW or NWA either. |
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Feb 4, 2023 18:08:35 GMT -5
Will have to see how this actually plays out before deciding on what I think about it. In theory, it should speed up development. But so far, it's just a partnership with an indie run by a WWE employee which is pretty minor. If it's talent working a bunch of indies all over the country with little restriction, then great. But if it comes with restrictions on who else the indies can work with in order to get access to the NXT talent, then I'm less high on it. Can’t see how it can be a negative on the talent development end, even with likely restrictions. Also funny that the first two immediate replies to the news is to think of the possible negatives. My first instinct is to say that it's a way of trying to force indie companies to choose between using AEW talent or theirs. Given how WWE has treated Progress and ICW that seems like an easy choice. |
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Post by darbus alan on Feb 4, 2023 18:09:08 GMT -5
Will have to see how this actually plays out before deciding on what I think about it. In theory, it should speed up development. But so far, it's just a partnership with an indie run by a WWE employee which is pretty minor. If it's talent working a bunch of indies all over the country with little restriction, then great. But if it comes with restrictions on who else the indies can work with in order to get access to the NXT talent, then I'm less high on it. Can’t see how it can be a negative on the talent development end, even with likely restrictions. Also funny that the first two immediate replies to the news is to think of the possible negatives. Breaking news: People are skeptical of a company with a decades' long history of anti-competitive and anti-labor behavior suddenly having an about face. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Feb 4, 2023 18:17:19 GMT -5
Will have to see how this actually plays out before deciding on what I think about it. In theory, it should speed up development. But so far, it's just a partnership with an indie run by a WWE employee which is pretty minor. If it's talent working a bunch of indies all over the country with little restriction, then great. But if it comes with restrictions on who else the indies can work with in order to get access to the NXT talent, then I'm less high on it. Can’t see how it can be a negative on the talent development end, even with likely restrictions. Also funny that the first two immediate replies to the news is to think of the possible negatives. The talent development end seems like a big positive, but I think especially in light of how the UK indie 'cooperation' worked, there's a decent amount of reason to be skeptical. A lot of lines were drawn in the scene, promotions got jerked around on booking dates, and a lot of politics got played for getting access to those NXT UK guys. It's hard to look at this and not think they might play a lot of similar games this same time around. |
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Post by 06vwgti on Feb 4, 2023 18:51:04 GMT -5
Im surprised they haven't done much with affiliation with Booker's promotion, given how he still appears on their preshow panel, and does some commentary (along with some bootlicking). From what I remember watching ROW had good video production too.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 4, 2023 19:17:33 GMT -5
Im surprised they haven't done much with affiliation with Booker's promotion, given how he still appears on their preshow panel, and does some commentary (along with some bootlicking). From what I remember watching ROW had good video production too. If his promotion doesn't get involved, I do imagine he'll be angry. Wasn't a big part of why he left for TNA in the past because, in addition to the wellness violation, he also was angry about WWE not giving his school/promotion a developmental deal and him feeling insulted? |
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Post by 06vwgti on Feb 4, 2023 19:28:21 GMT -5
Im surprised they haven't done much with affiliation with Booker's promotion, given how he still appears on their preshow panel, and does some commentary (along with some bootlicking). From what I remember watching ROW had good video production too. If his promotion doesn't get involved, I do imagine he'll be angry. Wasn't a big part of why he left for TNA in the past because, in addition to the wellness violation, he also was angry about WWE not giving his school/promotion a developmental deal and him feeling insulted? I recall reading that too back when he got released back in 07, he had invested a lot of money in equipment, etc, whereas in FCW it was more barebones, etc...though he's had ROW for quite a few years since the mid 2010s so thats why I wondered why it wasn't anytime sooner since WWE has letting people work EVOLVE, etc. |
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 4, 2023 20:21:35 GMT -5
Im surprised they haven't done much with affiliation with Booker's promotion, given how he still appears on their preshow panel, and does some commentary (along with some bootlicking). From what I remember watching ROW had good video production too. If his promotion doesn't get involved, I do imagine he'll be angry. Wasn't a big part of why he left for TNA in the past because, in addition to the wellness violation, he also was angry about WWE not giving his school/promotion a developmental deal and him feeling insulted? They’re already confirmed as the first promotion they’re working with on this. Ivy Nile is booked on the ROW show next Saturday. |
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 4, 2023 20:23:00 GMT -5
Can’t see how it can be a negative on the talent development end, even with likely restrictions. Also funny that the first two immediate replies to the news is to think of the possible negatives. Breaking news: People are skeptical of a company with a decades' long history of anti-competitive and anti-labor behavior suddenly having an about face. Sure, I just thought it was funny that right off the bat the usual were rushing to “okay that’s nice, BUT….” |
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 4, 2023 20:25:53 GMT -5
Can’t see how it can be a negative on the talent development end, even with likely restrictions. Also funny that the first two immediate replies to the news is to think of the possible negatives. The talent development end seems like a big positive, but I think especially in light of how the UK indie 'cooperation' worked, there's a decent amount of reason to be skeptical. A lot of lines were drawn in the scene, promotions got jerked around on booking dates, and a lot of politics got played for getting access to those NXT UK guys. It's hard to look at this and not think they might play a lot of similar games this same time around. I’m sure there’ll be politics involved just like with anything, I don’t think anyone believes talent will just have free reign to go take indy bookings and the indy companies won’t have to follow certain rules when using such talent (broadcast, opponent, win/loss, etc). But more NXT talent getting reps on indy shows seems like a win-win for the talent and WWE. |
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Post by 06vwgti on Feb 4, 2023 20:51:38 GMT -5
Breaking news: People are skeptical of a company with a decades' long history of anti-competitive and anti-labor behavior suddenly having an about face. Sure, I just thought it was funny that right off the bat the usual were rushing to “okay that’s nice, BUT….” Are they wrong for being skeptical, no? |
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Feb 4, 2023 21:00:25 GMT -5
Can’t see how it can be a negative on the talent development end, even with likely restrictions. Also funny that the first two immediate replies to the news is to think of the possible negatives. My first instinct is to say that it's a way of trying to force indie companies to choose between using AEW talent or theirs. Given how WWE has treated Progress and ICW that seems like an easy choice. Yeah I can't help but feel that they'll try and strongarm promotions into using NXT talent over AEW talent. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 5, 2023 0:02:10 GMT -5
SRS said HBK told him there's not any new edict on this, that Booker T got specific permission in this one case. Not super surprising, though hopefully they'll loosen up on this a bit for some of their wrestlers who could dearly use the seasoning.
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