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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 9, 2023 10:03:17 GMT -5
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Post by Bo Rida on Feb 9, 2023 10:05:10 GMT -5
Roman will still be the top guy if he's around regardless of if he has a title. If Vince isn't on creative I doubt there'll be another forced definitive top guy after Roman anyway, more a group of wrestlers that will include Cody. Of course somebody may organically rise to the very top but conditions aren't great for that in WWE or modern wrestling in general. Sami has literally just done that, though. Not really, he's risen to be one of the group of top guys but not THE definitive one like Roman or Cena. There's a chance he could but unlikely, especially given the Saudi situation.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Feb 9, 2023 10:08:14 GMT -5
I think he'll win at Mania and lose it to Gunther at SummerSlam.
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Post by Fade on Feb 9, 2023 10:12:53 GMT -5
I think he'll win at Mania and lose it to Gunther at SummerSlam. I want this. Another reason I hate the titles aren’t split because, yes there’s an argument for it to go back to Roman if he sticks around, but there being two titles would give ample way to elevate new dudes. Gunther being a prime example.
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Post by XIII on Feb 9, 2023 11:23:07 GMT -5
Hard to say really. There seems to be money in Cody and Roman arguing over who Dusty loved more and Cody is over, but he could fall victim to the “chase being better than the win” trap too depending on who they book against him after Wrestlemania. I don’t see him beating Roman a bunch of times in rematches so someone new will have to emerge as a viable rival. Will have to monitor the situation.
I do think that Walter will be the one that beats him though.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Feb 9, 2023 12:19:10 GMT -5
Realistically Roman will still be the top star until the day he goes into full Brock Lesnar mode with like the 3 matches a year type schedule. As long as he works most PPVs and is regularly on TV he'll be the top star, title or not, like how Cena was still clearly the biggest star in 2013-15 even if he was rarely world champion and wasn't main eventing every PPV anymore.
As for his title reign I agree with the consensus here. A decent run but it doesn't need to be super long. Ideally I'd have him hold it for 4-7 months and lose it no later than Survivor Series. I think he'll give up the Universal title early in his reign during the draft so the other show has a champion and the WWE title will be the one he keeps the rest of the way.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Feb 9, 2023 15:07:23 GMT -5
Even if Cody is better "at the chase" he can still be the main star.
Austin was undeniably the guy and was 100% better at chasing the title than he ever was actually holding it.
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Feb 9, 2023 15:10:00 GMT -5
I think he'll win at Mania and lose it to Gunther at SummerSlam. This is my ideal scenario.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Feb 9, 2023 15:19:59 GMT -5
I think he'll win at Mania and lose it to Gunther at SummerSlam. This is my ideal scenario. If we're talking really long term, I think Gunther needs to lose at Mania without taking a pin, then beat Cody at SummerSlam, then you build to Cody/Gunther 2 to main event Mania 40 where Gunther finally takes a pin. I think they already showed me enough chemistry to show me it'd work.
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Post by asuka007 on Feb 9, 2023 15:27:40 GMT -5
Being a top guy doesn’t mean you always have to be champion. Not to say Cody shouldn’t get a good reign if he wins it. But there’s more to being a top guy than just holding the belt.
As for how long, I think at least for a few years (hopefully by which time the young promising crop of talent will be ready to step up).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2023 16:08:23 GMT -5
not to be a doomer but i really think we ought to just get past mania night and figure it out/discuss it then
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 9, 2023 16:13:39 GMT -5
not to be a doomer but i really think we ought to just get past mania night and figure it out/discuss it then Yeah I think there’s definitely still a chance that Roman retains at Mania.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2023 18:28:39 GMT -5
The fans turn on him by June. Just like in AEW.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Feb 9, 2023 18:41:53 GMT -5
The fans turn on him by June. Just like in AEW. I doubt it since Cody's problems in AEW were so highly specific and snowballed out of a few very poor decisions along the way. Between his stupidly taking himself out of the title scene, establishing his own little pocket universe that ate up tons of TV time while impacting nothing in the broader AEW ecosystem, having feuds that just went on and on and on that the crowd was more interested in, and how rapidly he fell into just doing the same story structure over and over of, "Someone kicks Cody's ass, he goes away, they spend weeks beating up his useless friends, he comes back and gets the win," it was just a snowball effect that culminated in that wildly tone deaf Ogogo feud followed immediately by him cutting Malakai's momentum off at the knees with their shit. The conditions for the same thing to happen in WWE really just aren't there right now.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Feb 9, 2023 19:18:12 GMT -5
I mean whoever beats Roman should be a semi-long term prospect as their main face. I don't expect Cody to be the 10 year main event ace but still, I'd expect him to still be for a bit. 6 month title reign max But he will be involved with the title in some form or fashion for next 2-3 years. Can see him losing the title and getting it back to defend it at Mania Yeah, till around Summerslam and then JTTS.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 9, 2023 19:21:14 GMT -5
The fans turn on him by June. Just like in AEW. I doubt it since Cody's problems in AEW were so highly specific and snowballed out of a few very poor decisions along the way. Between his stupidly taking himself out of the title scene, establishing his own little pocket universe that ate up tons of TV time while impacting nothing in the broader AEW ecosystem, having feuds that just went on and on and on that the crowd was more interested in, and how rapidly he fell into just doing the same story structure over and over of, "Someone kicks Cody's ass, he goes away, they spend weeks beating up his useless friends, he comes back and gets the win," it was just a snowball effect that culminated in that wildly tone deaf Ogogo feud followed immediately by him cutting Malakai's momentum off at the knees with their shit. The conditions for the same thing to happen in WWE really just aren't there right now. I honestly pin some of that on Ogogo just not being very good. Like, if this was all on Cody, surely he'd have been used virtually at all since then, but between him doing stupid shit like starting a fight with Gresham and Grace for no particular reason, etc, and just being kind of eh in the ring, maybe it was always a bit doomed.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2023 19:23:32 GMT -5
The fans turn on him by June. Just like in AEW. I doubt it since Cody's problems in AEW were so highly specific and snowballed out of a few very poor decisions along the way. Between his stupidly taking himself out of the title scene, establishing his own little pocket universe that ate up tons of TV time while impacting nothing in the broader AEW ecosystem, having feuds that just went on and on and on that the crowd was more interested in, and how rapidly he fell into just doing the same story structure over and over of, "Someone kicks Cody's ass, he goes away, they spend weeks beating up his useless friends, he comes back and gets the win," it was just a snowball effect that culminated in that wildly tone deaf Ogogo feud followed immediately by him cutting Malakai's momentum off at the knees with their shit. The conditions for the same thing to happen in WWE really just aren't there right now. I like Cody but it's obvious to me that the fans will start booing his ass after he gets his big moment. For starters, fans hate when they're TOLD to like something. And this Cody push is as manufactured as it gets. There's only so many times Cody can cut the same emotional "I'm the son of Dusty Rhodes" promo without the fans getting sick of it.... God forbid he ever tries to cut a promo on racism again. I wouldn't be surprised if they started cheering for Sami Zayn in the build up to be honest. I've seen this movie before with Daniel Bryan.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 9, 2023 19:26:51 GMT -5
The fans turn on him by June. Just like in AEW. I doubt it since Cody's problems in AEW were so highly specific and snowballed out of a few very poor decisions along the way. Between his stupidly taking himself out of the title scene, establishing his own little pocket universe that ate up tons of TV time while impacting nothing in the broader AEW ecosystem, having feuds that just went on and on and on that the crowd was more interested in, and how rapidly he fell into just doing the same story structure over and over of, "Someone kicks Cody's ass, he goes away, they spend weeks beating up his useless friends, he comes back and gets the win," it was just a snowball effect that culminated in that wildly tone deaf Ogogo feud followed immediately by him cutting Malakai's momentum off at the knees with their shit. The conditions for the same thing to happen in WWE really just aren't there right now. Don't forget the new person who kicks his ass also does Jericho podcast
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Post by Kay Faban on Feb 9, 2023 19:31:12 GMT -5
WWE crowds don’t really turn on things anymore now that AEW is around. He’s doing great and there is no sign right now people will turn on him.
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Post by Schizo on Feb 9, 2023 19:33:39 GMT -5
Sometimes, a manufacturered push isn’t a bad thing, Cody has been on fire sence his return last year sans pec injury
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