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Post by J is Justice on Feb 13, 2023 23:01:59 GMT -5
Seriously, what's going on with the women's division right now?
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Post by Hypnosis on Feb 13, 2023 23:03:29 GMT -5
Seriously, what's going on with the women's division right now? Bad road agenting? Road Dogg?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 13, 2023 23:03:34 GMT -5
Brooklyn was a really hot crowd tonight, that was a really great way to hurt Bianca and nothing else, just absolute shit booking You wasted everyone's time Arenβt you the one who yells at anyone else for being negative about AEW? Like, so over the top to where some people have stopped even posting opinions there? Not hypocritical at all. So because I defend AEW, I can't call a WWE segment shit just like a bunch of other people in the same thread are doing? Numerous people called this pointless, not just me, you can see it in the thread, I simply was saying the same thing but because I defend AEW, I'm the problem I'm f***ing so tired of this, seriously. This is just absolutely unnecessary in every regard. I've actually been positive about a lot of WWE stuff lately, but stuff like this make me feel so unwelcomed here.
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Post by mistery on Feb 13, 2023 23:04:16 GMT -5
Seriously, what's going on with the women's division right now? Bad creative, and part of the issue is that Bianca is just suffocating everything. She never looks vulnerable and is basically a Mary Sue character, creatively.
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Post by fw91 on Feb 13, 2023 23:05:03 GMT -5
I don't see the big deal. I think they felt the need to re-establish and put some of that lost spotlight on Bianca in effort to have her be more of a final boss for the rest of the ladies in the chamber to overcome. Winning a triple threat against Bayley and Becky does that, and not having any reason for the match to occur wouldn't have made sense. Wasn't the most engaging match, but it made sense if we think deeper about it.
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Post by Fade on Feb 13, 2023 23:05:03 GMT -5
Becky looks so sad I wish I could cheer her up Time for the return of "hot, trashy mom at Walmart" Becky: WHY is she so HOT in ANYTHING?!?
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Feb 13, 2023 23:06:53 GMT -5
Arenβt you the one who yells at anyone else for being negative about AEW? Like, so over the top to where some people have stopped even posting opinions there? Not hypocritical at all. So because I defend AEW, I can't call a WWE segment shit just like a bunch of other people in the same thread are doing? Numerous people called this pointless, not just me, you can see it in the thread, I simply was saying the same thing but because I defend AEW, I'm the problem I'm f***ing so tired of this, seriously. This is just absolutely unnecessary in every regard. cjb, you are not the problem. This is The Problem:
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Feb 13, 2023 23:07:23 GMT -5
Time for the return of "hot, trashy mom at Walmart" Becky: WHY is she so HOT in ANYTHING?!? They really should've done more with the bum ass Becky storyline.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2023 23:07:41 GMT -5
Seems like Alexa's not the only one whose ring work has gone downhill. I think Becky may be mentally checked out too. Would not blame them because it seems like this division is stuck in a perpetual rut. The draft cannot come soon enough to change shit around ...not saying booking will improve but there are so many women that need to be kept the f*** away from one another for atleast an entire calender year at minimum.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Feb 13, 2023 23:07:59 GMT -5
I don't see the big deal. I think they felt the need to re-establish and put some of that lost spotlight on Bianca in effort to have her be more of a final boss for the rest of the ladies in the chamber to overcome. Winning a triple threat against Bayley and Becky does that, and not having any reason for the match to occur wouldn't have made sense. Wasn't the most engaging match, but it made sense if we think deeper about it. The thing that gets me with it is why not just have it be for the title then? You didn't need all of the convoluted Elimination Chamber nonsense on it that went nowhere.
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Post by mistery on Feb 13, 2023 23:08:00 GMT -5
I don't see the big deal. I think they felt the need to re-establish and put some of that lost spotlight on Bianca in effort to have her be more of a final boss for the rest of the ladies in the chamber to overcome. Winning a triple threat against Bayley and Becky does that, and not having any reason for the match to occur wouldn't have made sense. Wasn't the most engaging match, but it made sense if we think deeper about it. The issue is, and this is a big issue, is that her reign is long in the tooth. It needs to end. And very soon at that. It's why I'm hoping Asuka wins the Chamber and beats Bianca at Mania. Bianca DESPERATELY needs a new facet to her character, because right now its "cut bad generic promo, no sell the person she's feuding with, win and forget to sell". Rinse and repeat for the past year.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 13, 2023 23:08:54 GMT -5
So because I defend AEW, I can't call a WWE segment shit just like a bunch of other people in the same thread are doing? Numerous people called this pointless, not just me, you can see it in the thread, I simply was saying the same thing but because I defend AEW, I'm the problem I'm f***ing so tired of this, seriously. This is just absolutely unnecessary in every regard. cjb, you are not the problem. This is The Problem: Thanks man. Honestly, thanks for being a poster who always tries to lift my and others spirits I've been in a pretty sad spot since the Eagles lost, being ganged up on in the RAW thread for just giving takes other people were giving the exact same of isn't helping... thanks for being a cool person in all the live threads I hope Toxic Attraction can work through their differences lol
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Feb 13, 2023 23:09:49 GMT -5
Guys, I think it's a pretty reasonable take that the show was mostly boring outside of one great segment. When a show is 3 hours, it's a lot for one segment so I'm not shocked some folks are down on the show.
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Post by fw91 on Feb 13, 2023 23:11:03 GMT -5
Arenβt you the one who yells at anyone else for being negative about AEW? Like, so over the top to where some people have stopped even posting opinions there? Not hypocritical at all. So because I defend AEW, I can't call a WWE segment shit just like a bunch of other people in the same thread are doing? Numerous people called this pointless, not just me, you can see it in the thread, I simply was saying the same thing but because I defend AEW, I'm the problem I'm f***ing so tired of this, seriously. This is just absolutely unnecessary in every regard. I've actually been positive about a lot of WWE stuff lately, but stuff like this make me feel so unwelcomed here. Can I be honest here? In short, a lot of us here feel like the way you post in the wwe boards is very close or if not exactly like the posts you hate to see from others in the AEW section. It's not about not liking WWE when you find yourself in these situations. It's how you uneccessiarly drill the same points over and over again as if it's absolute fact when in the other section, you'd call out others for posting in a similar manner. I'm not saying that's your intention, but it's just something that a lot of us feel. There's a nicer more humble approach. Sorry If I overstepped mods, I realize that this might not have been my place.
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Post by fw91 on Feb 13, 2023 23:11:43 GMT -5
I don't see the big deal. I think they felt the need to re-establish and put some of that lost spotlight on Bianca in effort to have her be more of a final boss for the rest of the ladies in the chamber to overcome. Winning a triple threat against Bayley and Becky does that, and not having any reason for the match to occur wouldn't have made sense. Wasn't the most engaging match, but it made sense if we think deeper about it. The thing that gets me with it is why not just have it be for the title then? You didn't need all of the convoluted Elimination Chamber nonsense on it that went nowhere. Fair point.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Feb 13, 2023 23:11:46 GMT -5
I do feel like this board can be way too quick to just completely fail to recognize hyperbole? Like, yeah, things DID happen on the show, but I'm pretty sure cjb didn't literally mean, "Oh wow, this show is completely pointless, 100%, nothing redeemable about it!" It was just a reaction to how the big angle running throughout the three hours ultimately amounted to nothing.
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Post by mistery on Feb 13, 2023 23:12:32 GMT -5
I think Becky may be mentally checked out too. Would not blame them because it seems like this division is stuck in a perpetual rut. The draft cannot come soon enough to change shit around ...not saying booking will improve but there are so many women that need to be kept the f*** away from one another for atleast an entire calender year at minimum. The rut is basically all based around Bianca as well. There's no excuse for it at this point, her booking is completely destroying any interest in the division. Because it seems like she's never going to lose the title. And she never sells anyone as a threat either. It's just an endless cycle of feeding women to her. WWE better pray to god that she doesn't go down with an injury, because otherwise they are completely screwed as they've fed pretty much every woman in the company to her outside of Ronda and Charlotte. Neither of whom are better options.
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Post by hbkid718 on Feb 13, 2023 23:12:54 GMT -5
Here are my Raw Thoughts:
Very good opening segment with Becky Lynch, Bayley, & Bianca Belair. The Triple Threat Main Event will be awesome. I love the idea of either Becky or Bayley being added to the Chamber Match. It would be the 1st time that a Chamber Match had 7 Participants since Finn Balor VS John Cena VS Elias VS The Miz VS Roman Reigns VS Seth Rollins VS Braun Strowman on 2/25/18. Good promo by The Judgment Day. The Street Profits VS The Judgment Day was an excellent match with the right result. Fun brawl afterwards with Edge & Beth Phoenix. Love Rhea Ripley saving Dominick Mysterio from another Glam Slam. Damn. WWE is quick. I guess they made the belt with the side plates for both Super Bowl teams and then put the winning team's plates on before giving it to them. I didn't like the Brock Lesnar-Bobby Lashley Contract Signing. Neither one of them were good on the mic. The only good part was their brawl & Lesnar destroying the Security Guards. Mia Yim VS Piper Niven was short but a good match. I'm glad that Piper was OK after getting dropped on her head. Cool recap of Smackdown & The Bloodline Storyline. LOL, Baron Corbin's interview got interrupted by Sami Zayn. I can't stand seeing all of those people recording Cody Rhodes on their phone. You are there live in person. You are spending your hard earned money to see him with your eyes. Put down the phone & enjoy the moment. Incredible Segment with Cody Rhodes & Sami Zayn. I got goosebumps watching it. For the record, Rhodes & Zayn have wrestled each other twice when Rhodes was Stardust (3/12/16 WWE Roadblock & 3/18/16 Main Event), with Zayn winning both times. Weird segment with Nikki Cross, Carmella, & Asuka. Who was Nikki talking about when she said she was playing Hide & Seek? Candice LeRae was good. LOL. They let Baron Corbin finish his interview. It's cool that Corbin brought up that he's the last person to pin Roman Reigns. I love Cody Rhodes attacking Corbin & asking for a match. Say what you want about Dusty & Dustin, but don't talk bad about Pharaoh. Cody Rhodes VS Baron Corbin was short, but still a fun match. I love seeing Cody like this. He's ready for Roman Reigns at WrestleMania. There's dissension in the Smackdown Team with Liv Morgan, Natalya, & Raquel Rodriguez. They should add stakes to this match, where the woman who scores the winning pin gets the final entrance in the Chamber & the one who gets pinned has to enter at #1. I thought there was dissension in Team Smackdown, but apparently Asuka doesn't care about her Team Raw partners, Nikki Cross & Carmella. Fun 6-Man Tag VS Liv Morgan, Natalya, & Raquel Rodriguez. Horrible segment with The Alpha Academy & Maximum Male Models. What a way to ruin The Alpha Academy. But Bronson Reed VS Otis could be fun if it ever happens. The music is extremely loud tonight. Mustafa Ali VS Bronson Reed was an awesome way to showcase Reed especially after that throw into the timekeeper's area. Unfortunately it was at the expense of an incredible wrestler in Ali. Solid promo by Edge & Beth Phoenix. Another classic WrestleMania 21 Trailer with Steve Austin as Gladiator. I really hope they do ones for this year. What the hell is Seth Rollins wearing on his feet? Stupid Miz TV with The Miz. I can't stand Seth Rollins' "Dream to Main Event WrestleMania". He already did. He won the WWE Title in the main event of WM 31. Yes, he wasn't announced for it, but he was still in the main event. The Stomp with those stupid ass shoes looked horrendous. What a crappy segment with The Miz & Seth Rollins, but at least Austin Theory got his heat back from last week. Rick Boogs & Elias was different, but I spy The Hurt Business in the background. Rick Boogs VS The Miz was a bad match. It was the worst match of the night. Boogs should have stayed on Smackdown playing guitar for Shinsuke Nakamura. Fun segment with Adam Pearce & Chelsea Green. Another good interview with The Judgment Day. Cool video package on the Elimination Chamber Match. Bianca Belair VS Bayley VS Becky Lynch was an amazing match. I'm glad it got tons of time & 2 Picture-in-Pictures. I like the other Chamber Participants coming out to neutralize Damage CTRL. I guess because of Dakota's injury, we're not getting the rumored 6-Woman Tag at Elimination Chamber with Becky Lynch, Lita, & Trish Stratus VS Damage CTRL.
Here are my Raw Match Rankings: 1) Bianca Belair VS Bayley VS Becky Lynch 2) The Street Profits VS The Judgment Day 3) Cody Rhodes VS Baron Corbin 4) Mustafa Ali VS Bronson Reed 5) Asuka, Carmella, & Nikki Cross VS Liv Morgan, Natalya, & Raquel Rodriguez 6) Mia Yim VS Piper Niven 7) Rick Boogs VS The Miz
The Road to WrestleMania's stop for Raw in Brooklyn, NY was another great one. The matches were all solid except for 1. The segments were all good except for 2. But the best thing on the show was the Rhodes/Zayn Segment. Next Stop: Smackdown in Montreal, CN. I can't change the channel fast enough after Raw so I don't have to watch a second of the Crooked Cons on Chrisley Knows Best.
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Post by fw91 on Feb 13, 2023 23:13:11 GMT -5
I don't see the big deal. I think they felt the need to re-establish and put some of that lost spotlight on Bianca in effort to have her be more of a final boss for the rest of the ladies in the chamber to overcome. Winning a triple threat against Bayley and Becky does that, and not having any reason for the match to occur wouldn't have made sense. Wasn't the most engaging match, but it made sense if we think deeper about it. The issue is, and this is a big issue, is that her reign is long in the tooth. It needs to end. And very soon at that. It's why I'm hoping Asuka wins the Chamber and beats Bianca at Mania. Bianca DESPERATELY needs a new facet to her character, because right now its "cut bad generic promo, no sell the person she's feuding with, win and forget to sell". Rinse and repeat for the past year. Yeah agreed. But I hope it's Liv haha
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2023 23:13:46 GMT -5
I say it all the time and I will continue to say untill Bianca's character has a serious f***ing shift.
She is the WORST version of what a babyface and that is one with no vulnerability to her whatsoever.
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