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Post by Chiral on Feb 27, 2023 23:34:33 GMT -5
For me it's like I'd rather be hyped for a match that could potentially be a letdown in Gunther/Lesnar than be bummed about a match that likely is gonna be a C+ whatever forgettable match at best.
Gunther/Lesnar will prolly still happen this year, maybe MITB in London but something about that at WM39 felt special to me.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Feb 27, 2023 23:37:11 GMT -5
I’ll be curious to hear what actually went down here. I don’t know if it’s Lesnar not wanting to lose to Lashley or what. But something went down.
I think a factor could also be some of HHH’s “depth hires” not catching fire, because you’d think Karrion/Bray would have made sense character-wise at least.
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Feb 27, 2023 23:44:50 GMT -5
Lots of people justifying their frustration that Gunther would be better, even though we know he’s not available whatsoever. If Brock is going over, I’d rather him go over Omos than talent I actually care about.
Omos and Strowman got a LOT of online attention and views during their mini feud. So all I’m saying is that I totally see why they’d wanna experiment in this first time match at Mania to see how it pans out. And like someone else said in this thread, if this is the worst thing on the card, WWE is doing something good.
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Post by chazraps on Feb 27, 2023 23:53:13 GMT -5
I'm willing to give it a shot as I like Brock-MVP's chemistry and maybe with Omos having been partially trained by Chris Hero, we'll get to see him do some cool stuff with Lesnar that we normally don't get from big men forced to wrestle the WWE big man style.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Feb 27, 2023 23:53:13 GMT -5
I'm just stunned at how absolutely terrible the Lashley / Lesnar feud added up to being. Whole storyline is Brock beats Lashley's ass every time they meet up for months with Lashley getting in, like, a couple the entire time it's going on, the matches were wildly underwhelming, and then the grand finale was Lashley getting kicked in the dick and having the hell beaten out of him then going, "Well I guess I'll fight Bray Wyatt now."
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 27, 2023 23:56:49 GMT -5
This will be a spectacle, at least, I guess, but I can't imagine it's going to be anything terribly special. I'm not even sure Omos can get up for an F5, not in terms of weight, but just awkwardness of that height for it, so, I'm going to guess he taps to the kimura. They'll get him up for the F5 to show Brock's strong enough, but MVP grabs the legs or something to prevent it, in a tease.
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Post by CMWaters on Feb 28, 2023 0:05:44 GMT -5
For some reason I'm getting Batista/Umaga at Mania 24 vibes from this, minus the brand warfare aspect.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 28, 2023 0:32:13 GMT -5
Spectacle as in the matchup of the two of them in the stadium setting and lights of Mania, and a couple of impressive looking power moves/moments. Not that the in-ring work will be excellent or anything. But that was my point with the Lashley matches. That is exactly what those were supposed to be and they stunk because Omos is not capable of impressive looking power moves against bigger dudes. He's just really slow and boring. I meant mostly Lesnar suplexing and F5ing Omos and then seeing if Omos breaks out something new.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 28, 2023 0:33:47 GMT -5
Omos sucks, I don't even know how that can be debated... the dude is just bad in almost every aspect and they're only pushing him because he's tall. I'd rather watch Giant Gonzalez matches. This is an absolute waste of a Brock Mania Match. Dude might not have many years left doing this and wasting one of his last prime years on this is just dumb to me. Brock vs Gunther is something they should have just committed to if this was the alternative. I'd rather watch him do dumb Wyatt bullshit than try and get anything out of Omos... like squeezing blood from a stone. That’s a little much, Omos is young and athletic and still green. Really great guy too from what I’ve heard. There’s still potential there.
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Post by XIII on Feb 28, 2023 0:37:23 GMT -5
LMAO @ Brock likely noping out of Wyatt shenanigans for an Omos match. Can’t say that I blame him really.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Feb 28, 2023 0:45:28 GMT -5
Omos sucks, I don't even know how that can be debated... the dude is just bad in almost every aspect and they're only pushing him because he's tall. I'd rather watch Giant Gonzalez matches. This is an absolute waste of a Brock Mania Match. Dude might not have many years left doing this and wasting one of his last prime years on this is just dumb to me. Brock vs Gunther is something they should have just committed to if this was the alternative. I'd rather watch him do dumb Wyatt bullshit than try and get anything out of Omos... like squeezing blood from a stone. That’s a little much, Omos is young and athletic and still green. Really great guy too from what I’ve heard. There’s still potential there. ... Athletic? By all signs the dude can barely move.
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Post by Schizo on Feb 28, 2023 0:49:05 GMT -5
It’s a spectacle match, nonthing more, nonthing less, could be a fun trainwreck of a match
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Post by Some Guy on Feb 28, 2023 0:52:07 GMT -5
That’s a little much, Omos is young and athletic and still green. Really great guy too from what I’ve heard. There’s still potential there. ... Athletic? By all signs the dude can barely move. Yeah I mean he was 7'3 in college basketball and couldn't get playing time for Morgan State. If he was even a tiny bit athletic, he would have absolutely dominated at his size.
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Post by Some Guy on Feb 28, 2023 1:05:05 GMT -5
Lots of people justifying their frustration that Gunther would be better, even though we know he’s not available whatsoever. If Brock is going over, I’d rather him go over Omos than talent I actually care about. Omos and Strowman got a LOT of online attention and views during their mini feud. So all I’m saying is that I totally see why they’d wanna experiment in this first time match at Mania to see how it pans out. And like someone else said in this thread, if this is the worst thing on the card, WWE is doing something good. The lower card is really shaping up to be kinda shit. Lashley/Bray won't be good because Bray hasn't had a good non Bryan match in 6 years. If tonight is any indication, Lita/Becky and Shayna/Ronda won't exactly be good. This match.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Feb 28, 2023 1:11:37 GMT -5
Lots of people justifying their frustration that Gunther would be better, even though we know he’s not available whatsoever. If Brock is going over, I’d rather him go over Omos than talent I actually care about. Omos and Strowman got a LOT of online attention and views during their mini feud. So all I’m saying is that I totally see why they’d wanna experiment in this first time match at Mania to see how it pans out. And like someone else said in this thread, if this is the worst thing on the card, WWE is doing something good. The lower card is really shaping up to be kinda shit. Lashley/Bray won't be good because Bray hasn't had a good non Bryan match in 6 years. If tonight is any indication, Lita/Becky and Shayna/Ronda won't exactly be good. This match. This is feeling a lot like a show where I'll be in it for the singles women's matches, the main event, the Intercontinental triple threat, and maybe the tag titles and the rest I'm going to be barely paying attention.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 28, 2023 1:12:33 GMT -5
That’s a little much, Omos is young and athletic and still green. Really great guy too from what I’ve heard. There’s still potential there. ... Athletic? By all signs the dude can barely move. I think he moves well for his size. He’s not as immobile as other legit 7 plus footers we’ve seen like El Gigante, Great Khali, Giant Silva. Obviously he’s not on the level of Big Show or prime Andre athletically. He falls somewhere in the middle.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 28, 2023 1:14:06 GMT -5
Lots of people justifying their frustration that Gunther would be better, even though we know he’s not available whatsoever. If Brock is going over, I’d rather him go over Omos than talent I actually care about. Omos and Strowman got a LOT of online attention and views during their mini feud. So all I’m saying is that I totally see why they’d wanna experiment in this first time match at Mania to see how it pans out. And like someone else said in this thread, if this is the worst thing on the card, WWE is doing something good. The lower card is really shaping up to be kinda shit. Lashley/Bray won't be good because Bray hasn't had a good non Bryan match in 6 years. If tonight is any indication, Lita/Becky and Shayna/Ronda won't exactly be good. This match. The only matches I would anticipate being not good ringwork wise are the Wyatt and Omos matches.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Feb 28, 2023 1:15:53 GMT -5
The lower card is really shaping up to be kinda shit. Lashley/Bray won't be good because Bray hasn't had a good non Bryan match in 6 years. If tonight is any indication, Lita/Becky and Shayna/Ronda won't exactly be good. This match. The only matches I would anticipate being not good ringwork wise are the Wyatt and Omos matches. Feels incredibly optimistic to expect anything even kind of good out of the women's tag between how poorly Lita was moving, how useless Ronda's been the past year, and Shayna being generally boring on a good day.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 28, 2023 1:20:13 GMT -5
The only matches I would anticipate being not good ringwork wise are the Wyatt and Omos matches. Feels incredibly optimistic to expect anything even kind of good out of the women's tag between how poorly Lita was moving, how useless Ronda's been the past year, and Shayna being generally boring on a good day. They’ll have it planned out to be worked mostly by Becky and Ronda I’m sure and I think Ronda is still very good, if maybe a little inconsistent. Plus Ronda and Shayna just had a banger with Nattie and Shotzi of all people so there may be something there with that team.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 28, 2023 1:23:02 GMT -5
Omos sucks, I don't even know how that can be debated... the dude is just bad in almost every aspect and they're only pushing him because he's tall. I'd rather watch Giant Gonzalez matches. This is an absolute waste of a Brock Mania Match. Dude might not have many years left doing this and wasting one of his last prime years on this is just dumb to me. Brock vs Gunther is something they should have just committed to if this was the alternative. I'd rather watch him do dumb Wyatt bullshit than try and get anything out of Omos... like squeezing blood from a stone. That’s a little much, Omos is young and athletic and still green. Really great guy too from what I’ve heard. There’s still potential there. Omos being a nice guy is nothing against him, I'm sure he is, but I haven't seen anything proving to me that Omos is athletic. Even Satnam can perform a pretty impressive crossbody, I've seen Shanky perform Superkicks. Omos can barely do a big boot... Omos has had squash matches where he's looked atrocious, and has been hard carried in many matches where that isn't the case. The Rumble was all just guys selling for him best they could. I do not have much optimism for this, and I feel like it's a complete waste of Lesnar, and given how many people expected a swerve or this to be a misdirect for a better Lesnar opponent, I'm not alone there...
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