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Post by Jindrak Mark on Feb 23, 2023 12:59:12 GMT -5
Miz is a guy who really needs a break from TV. I think if he was gone for a year he'd get a big pop when he returned and you could do a cool veteran babyface run with him trying to get his final IC title to break that record.
He's never gone to be able to miss him though. He never takes time off. He never gets injured (not that that's a bad thing). He doesn't even disappear to film movies occasionally anymore. He's just always there week after week year after year and it's easy to take him for granted.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Feb 23, 2023 13:26:41 GMT -5
They dont really need to. Miz has been around long enough that he gets a reaction whatever, so he'll get boos as a heel, but they arent go away heat boos, people seem to enjoy his schtick and they are good boos, if you see what I mean. He could be a face, but why bother when he's a natural heel and people still, by and large, dig him as that? Because then he might actually win sometimes. |
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Feb 27, 2023 10:42:15 GMT -5
Sure. I’d probably let the crowd turn him tho instead of trying to do it. His last face run was going really good and then they had Shane make him look like a goof. The story there was good. Miz was trying to use Shane to get ahead until they really started to gel and get along (adding in Miz dad) with Shane getting jealous. They had all that good until Shane just never lost for no reason This was the moment the face turn was locked in: |
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Feb 27, 2023 10:46:54 GMT -5
He'll start to get more babyface reactions in a year or two, IMO, when people realize he's in the back nine of his career. I don't see the guy working into his mid-to-late 40s and there are going to be new cocky heels (e.g. Grayson Waller) where it'd make sense to have the old heel turn face and get bested by the new heels.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 27, 2023 10:49:39 GMT -5
He'll start to get more babyface reactions in a year or two, IMO, when people realize he's in the back nine of his career. I don't see the guy working into his mid-to-late 40s and there are going to be new cocky heels (e.g. Grayson Waller) where it'd make sense to have the old heel turn face and get bested by the new heels. Like, something like that where you can try and get sympathy to get someone over, I'm down for that. Something substantial I just can't see because the ball was dropped twice, once by him not living up to that turn or being credible enough and the other by the company by having Shane beat him like a drum in a steel cage. |
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Post by canceled4truth on Feb 27, 2023 11:00:38 GMT -5
I posted this in the social media thread but there's a very easy story to tell here if they wanna turn him face again:
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 27, 2023 11:03:01 GMT -5
I posted this in the social media thread but there's a very easy story to tell here if they wanna turn him face again: The thing is, though, they've told that story several times in feuds and such either as an attempt at motivation or a way of Miz rubbing it into an audience and it's not like that did much. He went through a lot of shit but at the end of the day, the Miz in 2023 isn't that different to the Miz that debuted in ECW and ended up teaming with Morrison besides fashion tweaks. |
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Post by canceled4truth on Feb 27, 2023 11:05:29 GMT -5
I posted this in the social media thread but there's a very easy story to tell here if they wanna turn him face again: The thing is, though, they've told that story several times in feuds and such either as an attempt at motivation or a way of Miz rubbing it into an audience and it's not like that did much. He went through a lot of shit but at the end of the day, the Miz in 2023 isn't that different to the Miz that debuted in ECW and ended up teaming with Morrison besides fashion tweaks. Well, I haven't seen it yet |
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Post by Rolent Tex on Feb 27, 2023 11:12:55 GMT -5
I think other than the botched face turn that Shane murdered dead…they missed a huge opportunity to turn Miz face against Nexus to sacrifice him at the alter of Cena vs Rock. It was simple as Daniel Bryan turning on Team WWE to rejoin Nexus, winning the IC belt to Barrett’s WWE Title and feuding with Miz into Mania after Riley reveals himself as Nexus and screws Miz out of his MITB cash in. I feel a lot of guys should have come out of that angle stronger if they didn’t botch the landing. Only thing of value lost would have been the loveable meme scamp known as Miz Girl.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 27, 2023 11:13:37 GMT -5
Well, I haven't seen it yet I also sort of don't think they bring it up because, like, they wouldn't want the next question to be "Erm, so why didn't the company do anything about it at the time?" and open up further discussion that Vince basically ramped up with his stuff. |
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Feb 27, 2023 12:33:05 GMT -5
Sure. I’d probably let the crowd turn him tho instead of trying to do it. His last face run was going really good and then they had Shane make him look like a goof. The story there was good. Miz was trying to use Shane to get ahead until they really started to gel and get along (adding in Miz dad) with Shane getting jealous. They had all that good until Shane just never lost for no reason This was the moment the face turn was locked in: When people say Miz could never be a good face, I point them to this. Everything worked, from Miz admitting that he hasn't been a good person most of the time, getting sympathy when talking about his father being manhandled and then showing believable fire that he wanted to kick Shane's ass. Honestly, I think this might be one of the best promos of his career, only second to the Locker room promo as US Champion They royally screwed up by having him not only *not* beat Shane at Mania, not just losing the rematch, but having him do so by looking like a total f***ing idiot. |
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Post by mc74 on Feb 27, 2023 18:17:21 GMT -5
Miz is one of those wrestlers that doesn't really work as a babyface imo. It was tried twice and neither one of them panned out.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 27, 2023 18:22:17 GMT -5
I feel anyone who has only had turns as the other alignment under Vince creative is entitled to one more attempt at it under this creative (however long it lasts). This covers babyface Miz.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Feb 27, 2023 18:45:30 GMT -5
Didn't Brock destroy babyface Miz with a whole ass couch and the crowd loved it?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2023 18:49:16 GMT -5
Short answer No
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Feb 27, 2023 19:04:16 GMT -5
Didn't Brock destroy babyface Miz with a whole ass couch and the crowd loved it? I remember some people in the live thread complaining about Miz trying to defend himself. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 27, 2023 19:08:19 GMT -5
Didn't Brock destroy babyface Miz with a whole ass couch and the crowd loved it? I remember some people in the live thread complaining about Miz trying to defend himself. That was the best moment of his first failed babyface run He knew he was going to take an ass whooping and still stood up to Brock |
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Feb 27, 2023 19:09:47 GMT -5
I remember some people in the live thread complaining about Miz trying to defend himself. That was the best moment of his first failed babyface run He knew he was going to take an ass whooping and still stood up to Brock That was back when Miz had "bitch eating crackers" heat around here. The board's come a long way from celebrating Kofi knocking him out. 😂 |
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Post by ChitownKnight on Feb 27, 2023 22:29:39 GMT -5
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Post by tirtefaa on Feb 27, 2023 22:42:35 GMT -5
I’m not surprised Chavo is defending it considering it’s his uncles best friend Harsh, but I did laugh at one response that said they should go eat a bucket of chicken over his (Benoit's) grave. |
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