Rate the AEW Dynamite!: 3/1/2023

[SneakMan]

Went with a 7. It was fine for the most part.

Cassidy vs Big Bill was fun, the ladder match was crazy, and there were excellent promos from Mox, Hangman, Christian and Bryan. Toni vs Riho and Jericho vs Avalon were both solid.

On the downside, the battle royal was kind of a drag and reinforced how comparatively dire AEW's tag division is compared to when they first started - the fact that Best Friends, Lucha Bros, and Top Flight aren't on a PPV but Planet Jarrett and The Gunns are speaks volumes. I also very much could've lived without a Matt Hardy singles match in the year of our lord 2023.

Solid enough show overall though. Still looking forward to Revolution.

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Mar 1, 2023 23:56:31 GMT -5 SneakMan said:

Went with a 7. It was fine for the most part.

Cassidy vs Big Bill was fun, the ladder match was crazy, and there were excellent promos from Mox, Hangman, Christian and Bryan. Toni vs Riho and Jericho vs Avalon were both solid.

On the downside, the battle royal was kind of a drag and reinforced how comparatively dire AEW's tag division is compared to when they first started - the fact that Best Friends, Lucha Bros, and Top Flight aren't on a PPV but Planet Jarrett and The Gunns are speaks volumes. I also very much could've lived without a Matt Hardy singles match in the year of our lord 2023.

Solid enough show overall though. Still looking forward to Revolution.

I don't think the AEW Tag division is gonna stay like this very long, nor do I think it's dire given the amount of talent they have and continue to use

Cassidy and Danhausen being put in the match will be good for the match and the crowd even if they don't win, and likely it sets up Best Friends getting a future shot for being taken out like they did which I'm all for.

It's just a matter of how they settle the Gunns storyline, which they might stretch to FTR beating them if they don't lose them here.

[Killah Ray]

Gave it an 8, promos really sold me on Revolution I still hate that MJF/Dragon is an Ironman match since that is legit my least favorite match type. ( lone exception is Angle/Lesnar Ironman from Smackdown)

[Lizuka #BLM]

Mar 1, 2023 23:56:31 GMT -5 SneakMan said:

Went with a 7. It was fine for the most part.

Cassidy vs Big Bill was fun, the ladder match was crazy, and there were excellent promos from Mox, Hangman, Christian and Bryan. Toni vs Riho and Jericho vs Avalon were both solid.

On the downside, the battle royal was kind of a drag and reinforced how comparatively dire AEW's tag division is compared to when they first started - the fact that Best Friends, Lucha Bros, and Top Flight aren't on a PPV but Planet Jarrett and The Gunns are speaks volumes. I also very much could've lived without a Matt Hardy singles match in the year of our lord 2023.

Solid enough show overall though. Still looking forward to Revolution.

Yeah, the fact that the apparent three best contenders right now are a throw-together on their second match as a team (and the first wasn't even televised), career jobbers who are the champions for some idiot reason, and two people who've spent decades being wildly uninteresting any time they've done anything and have already lost multiple title shots recently is a damning indictment of how badly the tag division has fallen apart.

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Mar 2, 2023 0:52:13 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

Mar 1, 2023 23:56:31 GMT -5 SneakMan said:

Went with a 7. It was fine for the most part.

Cassidy vs Big Bill was fun, the ladder match was crazy, and there were excellent promos from Mox, Hangman, Christian and Bryan. Toni vs Riho and Jericho vs Avalon were both solid.

On the downside, the battle royal was kind of a drag and reinforced how comparatively dire AEW's tag division is compared to when they first started - the fact that Best Friends, Lucha Bros, and Top Flight aren't on a PPV but Planet Jarrett and The Gunns are speaks volumes. I also very much could've lived without a Matt Hardy singles match in the year of our lord 2023.

Solid enough show overall though. Still looking forward to Revolution.

Yeah, the fact that the apparent three best contenders right now are a throw-together on their second match as a team (and the first wasn't even televised), career jobbers who are the champions for some idiot reason, and two people who've spent decades being wildly uninteresting any time they've done anything and have already lost multiple title shots recently is a damning indictment of how badly the tag division has fallen apart.

They arent the apparent three best contenders though, Acclaimed invoked their rematch to get in but have reasonable claim for it anyway, Jarrett/Lethal and Orange/Danhausen won in two different battle royals where a lot of shit happened for them to even be the winners

I think people are overreacting to the state of the tag division as a whole and that it's "fallen apart" off of one PPV match, this isn't the best and everyone else isn't gonna get their shot or the division isn't stacked to the gills, it's just one of those times in wrestling where people are at the right place and right times to either be champions or have a shot.

And a lot of people popped for Cassidy and Danhausen winning and Danhausen getting the PPV spot, it's a big deal in that regard and I'm happy for him.

[Fade]

Here were my thoughts while watching

Big bills entrance goes hard. He could stand to slow down just a bit. OC needs to win every belt in AEW. Big bill is looking GOOD. And he gets heat. You could give this guy a push. This was nodq? Does it matter? I would have booked the end of the match differently

I really don’t care about Mox rn. That’s sad.

That HOB/Elite thing was done scary, realistic and came off really, really well. Way more effective than the scary talk to camera stuff.

Everyone in the ladder match looked great. You need to get crowds invested in Hobbs like that *everywhere* he goes. He’s too good to not be. Action is a heel, I’ll say it a million times. So the Eddie thing was true? I didn’t think much of the komander guy, despite all the hype. AR fox has been insanely good every single time and in capacity he’s been used since coming to AEW. Wouldn’t mind seeing him as a heel associated with someone. Maybe MA? Can’t deny spot monkey Sammy is really good and insane.

Avalon looked good. Screw the music, Ricky should have ran out for the save before Jericho could do anything.

I love Ricky. But him constantly fighting back when it’s three guys Vs him..? Think he should have just sold the shit out of it.

WTF was that jungle boy video during Christian’s promo? Hahaha we get cemetary grave view camera shots but still no invisible camera? Haha c’mon Tony. No but really what was this y was he crying

Matt bring booked as Hooks toughest challenge….. c’mon. c’mon.

Yo ruby got booed when she hit Hayter lol

How you gonna book yuta as a heel. For real. Crowd didn’t give a SHIT about the kingdom lol. I really didn’t care about the tag battle Royal

End segment was really well done, I thought. I

Was tiptoeing around 7.5 but by the end, I’d give it an up-and-down 8.

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Mar 2, 2023 1:20:21 GMT -5 Fade said:

Matt bring booked as Hooks toughest challenge….. c’mon. c’mon.

Matt's a 30 year veteran who has thousands more matches in experience than HOOK does

In terms of who HOOK has faced... I think Matt should have been his toughest challenge to date, but he also had an assist of three other people on the outside and he still couldn't beat him, so it helped HOOK I thought looked tough and inevitably, win the match and screw Stokely over in the fact he has to face him now.

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Mar 2, 2023 1:25:37 GMT -5 cjb01: Limited Edition Item! said:

Mar 2, 2023 1:20:21 GMT -5 Fade said:

Matt bring booked as Hooks toughest challenge….. c’mon. c’mon.

Matt's a 30 year veteran who has thousands more matches in experience than HOOK does

In terms of who HOOK has faced... I think Matt should have been his toughest challenge to date, but he also had an assist of three other people on the outside and he still couldn't beat him, so it helped HOOK I thought looked tough and inevitably, win the match and screw Stokely over in the fact he has to face him now.

Cool. I respect your opinion. And I get why they do it(Matt’s familiarity, “veteran” status, him still being over) but dude just looked rough to me physically in the ring compared to Hook and some of the physical “in ring” competition he’s already faced.

It was just how I looked at it. It’s no big deal, bud. Respect your view 👍🏻

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Mar 2, 2023 1:33:55 GMT -5 Fade said:

Mar 2, 2023 1:25:37 GMT -5 cjb01: Limited Edition Item! said:

Matt's a 30 year veteran who has thousands more matches in experience than HOOK does

In terms of who HOOK has faced... I think Matt should have been his toughest challenge to date, but he also had an assist of three other people on the outside and he still couldn't beat him, so it helped HOOK I thought looked tough and inevitably, win the match and screw Stokely over in the fact he has to face him now.

Cool. I respect your opinion. And I get why they do it(Matt’s familiarity, “veteran” status, him still being over) but dude just looked rough to me physically in the ring compared to Hook and some of the physical “in ring” competition he’s already faced.

It was just how I looked at it. It’s no big deal, bud. Respect your view 👍🏻

It's no big deal, I just figured if anyone was gonna give HOOK a challenge up to this point it probably should have been Matt, Big Bill for his size would have also been a choice but they used him with Orange, to good results

[Some Guy]

Mar 2, 2023 1:10:08 GMT -5 cjb01: Limited Edition Item! said:

Mar 2, 2023 0:52:13 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

Yeah, the fact that the apparent three best contenders right now are a throw-together on their second match as a team (and the first wasn't even televised), career jobbers who are the champions for some idiot reason, and two people who've spent decades being wildly uninteresting any time they've done anything and have already lost multiple title shots recently is a damning indictment of how badly the tag division has fallen apart.

They arent the apparent three best contenders though, Acclaimed invoked their rematch to get in but have reasonable claim for it anyway, Jarrett/Lethal and Orange/Danhausen won in two different battle royals where a lot of shit happened for them to even be the winners

I think people are overreacting to the state of the tag division as a whole and that it's "fallen apart" off of one PPV match, this isn't the best and everyone else isn't gonna get their shot or the division isn't stacked to the gills, it's just one of those times in wrestling where people are at the right place and right times to either be champions or have a shot.

And a lot of people popped for Cassidy and Danhausen winning and Danhausen getting the PPV spot, it's a big deal in that regard and I'm happy for him.

It's fallen apart because they are stuck to the idea of pushing stories and matches that don't really work. This is genuinely the worst tag title PPV match since SCU's boring title reign to begin the company. They kept a stale Gunn Club/Acclaimed feud simmering/going on even though Acclaimed beat them in a blow off in AUGUST and then beat them again in an 8 man tag in November. They put Lethal/Jarrett back in despite Lethal losing his last 70000 title matches and already having 2 tag title shots this year. And I'm happy for Danhausen, but I don't really think this fits. This is essentially a sub WrestleMania pre-show late 2000s/early 2010s tag title match.

If this plan is just to drag out this interminable Gunn Club reign just to give it to FTR, then it's even more of a point of committing to a specific thing that isn't really necessary. If Acclaimed beats them a few weeks ago (as they should 100% have because The Acclaimed are still unbelievably over and they weren't losing heat by having the tag titles/needed to go back to the chase), this tag title match could have been a banger like Acclaimed/Yuta and Claudio or Acclaimed/Rush and Preston Vance. Both of those teams had been gaining heat and getting wins, so perfect PPV matches to add. But no, we get these 3 teams against them.

It's just excusing picking a really bad PPV match when you have options staring at you in the face for a great one. Especially when the story sucks too.

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Mar 2, 2023 2:36:42 GMT -5 Some Guy said:

Mar 2, 2023 1:10:08 GMT -5 cjb01: Limited Edition Item! said:

They arent the apparent three best contenders though, Acclaimed invoked their rematch to get in but have reasonable claim for it anyway, Jarrett/Lethal and Orange/Danhausen won in two different battle royals where a lot of shit happened for them to even be the winners

I think people are overreacting to the state of the tag division as a whole and that it's "fallen apart" off of one PPV match, this isn't the best and everyone else isn't gonna get their shot or the division isn't stacked to the gills, it's just one of those times in wrestling where people are at the right place and right times to either be champions or have a shot.

And a lot of people popped for Cassidy and Danhausen winning and Danhausen getting the PPV spot, it's a big deal in that regard and I'm happy for him.

It's fallen apart because they are stuck to the idea of pushing stories and matches that don't really work. This is genuinely the worst tag title PPV match since SCU's boring title reign to begin the company. They kept a stale Gunn Club/Acclaimed feud simmering/going on even though Acclaimed beat them in a blow off in AUGUST and then beat them again in an 8 man tag in November. They put Lethal/Jarrett back in despite Lethal losing his last 70000 title matches and already having 2 tag title shots this year. And I'm happy for Danhausen, but I don't really think this fits. This is essentially a sub WrestleMania pre-show late 2000s/early 2010s tag title match.

If this plan is just to drag out this interminable Gunn Club reign just to give it to FTR, then it's even more of a point of committing to a specific thing that isn't really necessary. If Acclaimed beats them a few weeks ago (as they should 100% have because The Acclaimed are still unbelievably over and they weren't losing heat by having the tag titles/needed to go back to the chase), this tag title match could have been a banger like Acclaimed/Yuta and Claudio or Acclaimed/Rush and Preston Vance. Both of those teams had been gaining heat and getting wins, so perfect PPV matches to add. But no, we get these 3 teams against them.

It's just excusing picking a really bad PPV match when you have options staring at you in the face for a great one. Especially when the story sucks too.

The match hasn't even happened yet so I think it's a bit presumptuous to say that this will be that, there are four good teams here who will likely put on a good match despite what it thought of the story or direction

We obviously have different thought processes on this and aren't really gonna come to an agreement. All that can happen now is the match itself and the teams going out there and proving doubters wrong and that the tag division as it stands is just fine and will be just fine going forward.

[grunt]

Show started strong, then kinda petered out at the end, for me.

- Cassidy vs Bill was fun, though in a perfect world, Bill would have kicked out of that top rope superman punch, and the match would have continued a couple of minutes.
- I'm burned out on Mox, so there's that.
- The ladder match was tons of fun, and the Peter Avalon/Jericho was too.
- Tired of the JAS/Starks segments, though.
- Don't really care about Page (which correlates with me being burned out on Mox), or Jungle Boy/Christian.
- Hardy/Hook wasn't the smoothest, but it was ok for what it was.
- By now, i've totally tuned out the entire Hayter/Soho/Saraya stuff, it just doesn't work for me.
- The Battle royale was messy and unsatisfying. I said it before, but the random BCC heel turn doesn't work for me, the Kingdom is bland, Preston Vance is a non-factor, the result was meh, and the 4-way tag title match just doesn't feel PPV-y enough, honestly.
- The Danielson promo was fine, but kinda felt like an afterthought in its placement.

The show felt a bit clunky, tbh.

[Schizo]

So Jungle Boy is Undertaker now? When did he have time to film and edit that video and convincingly air it not knowing Christian was going to be doing a in-ring promo? lol

Show was a 6 for me, not bad was very meh at times, whoo boy Bryan better win on Sunday

[lucas_lee]

Man what a show. The only part that sucked IMO was the tag battle Royale and that had spots when it was fun. I didnt expect Orangehausen to win, I wanted Top Flight to get the W. But I'll accept them over Vance and RUSH (more because I'm not a fan of Vance.) Without the ladder match this show is an 8/10 but with it, an easy 9/10

Match of the night/promo of the night:
Ladder match and Mox and Hangman s promos

Worst match/moment of the night:
Tag team battle royale

[lucas_lee]

Mar 2, 2023 2:36:42 GMT -5 Some Guy said:

Mar 2, 2023 1:10:08 GMT -5 cjb01: Limited Edition Item! said:

They arent the apparent three best contenders though, Acclaimed invoked their rematch to get in but have reasonable claim for it anyway, Jarrett/Lethal and Orange/Danhausen won in two different battle royals where a lot of shit happened for them to even be the winners

I think people are overreacting to the state of the tag division as a whole and that it's "fallen apart" off of one PPV match, this isn't the best and everyone else isn't gonna get their shot or the division isn't stacked to the gills, it's just one of those times in wrestling where people are at the right place and right times to either be champions or have a shot.

And a lot of people popped for Cassidy and Danhausen winning and Danhausen getting the PPV spot, it's a big deal in that regard and I'm happy for him.

It's fallen apart because they are stuck to the idea of pushing stories and matches that don't really work. This is genuinely the worst tag title PPV match since SCU's boring title reign to begin the company. They kept a stale Gunn Club/Acclaimed feud simmering/going on even though Acclaimed beat them in a blow off in AUGUST and then beat them again in an 8 man tag in November. They put Lethal/Jarrett back in despite Lethal losing his last 70000 title matches and already having 2 tag title shots this year. And I'm happy for Danhausen, but I don't really think this fits. This is essentially a sub WrestleMania pre-show late 2000s/early 2010s tag title match.

If this plan is just to drag out this interminable Gunn Club reign just to give it to FTR, then it's even more of a point of committing to a specific thing that isn't really necessary. If Acclaimed beats them a few weeks ago (as they should 100% have because The Acclaimed are still unbelievably over and they weren't losing heat by having the tag titles/needed to go back to the chase), this tag title match could have been a banger like Acclaimed/Yuta and Claudio or Acclaimed/Rush and Preston Vance. Both of those teams had been gaining heat and getting wins, so perfect PPV matches to add. But no, we get these 3 teams against them.

It's just excusing picking a really bad PPV match when you have options staring at you in the face for a great one. Especially when the story sucks too.

I think FTR noping out and sitting at home put a wrench in TKs plans and for some reason hes stubborn and rigid when he doesn't have to be.

[Glitch]

My friends sign that read "I named my cat after Riho" made it on air, so it was a good Dynamite. 9.

[Zone Was Wrong]

Mar 2, 2023 1:25:37 GMT -5 cjb01: Limited Edition Item! said:

Mar 2, 2023 1:20:21 GMT -5 Fade said:

Matt bring booked as Hooks toughest challenge….. c’mon. c’mon.

Matt's a 30 year veteran who has thousands more matches in experience than HOOK does

In terms of who HOOK has faced... I think Matt should have been his toughest challenge to date, but he also had an assist of three other people on the outside and he still couldn't beat him, so it helped HOOK I thought looked tough and inevitably, win the match and screw Stokely over in the fact he has to face him now.

To me the only other person who's even a big name on Hook's list of opponents (in singles) was Ricky Starks if what I'm reading is correct. Technically Hardy is the biggest name he's fought out of everyone else he's beaten besides Ricky. So while Hardy is broken (heh) down, they were technically correct. Still, Hardy is basically immobile at this point and really needs to wrap it up I think.

[clifford]

Mox looking like Big Boss in Metal Gear Solid 3 after losing his eye/10