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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Mar 12, 2023 14:03:04 GMT -5
Here's the problem with her putting over Lita(or any woman for that matter). If she jobs to Lita, does that mean Lita has a shot against the men? I can understand Chyna having an ego was part of the issue, but it seems she was also difficult to work with in the sense of her putting over any of the women(how to book it, not attitude-wise), even with the neck injury angle to explain why she was put there to begin with. The men already sold for Lita's hurricanrana, plus she had beaten Spike Dudley in a match, so I mean, sure? Chyna had her big moments and men sold for her, but she also honestly just as often got guitar shotted by Jarrett or kept at bay by Mark Henry, etc. It was still treated as a novelty when she did face men and her victory was definitely not assured. This is sort of like arguing that Cruiserweights in WCW shouldn't have been pushed unless they should be going toe to toe with Reese or Giant. It feels like an unnecessary qualification needed if you just don't use them that way. She already was facing Malenko and faced Spiked. In 03 She face Jericho and Christian with Trish. Plus men sold her hurricanrana so why not? Plus Lita did say several times she was suppose to have a series of matches.
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Post by 06vwgti on Mar 12, 2023 21:05:42 GMT -5
Ideally? Putting over Lita. I feel like Chyna feeling like working with the women was this enormous downgrade is also something of a tell about why they just let her contract run out. She had very little interest in elevating anyone or anything. That was her prerogative, but it also put her in a dead end after the Ivory feud. Here's the problem with her putting over Lita(or any woman for that matter). If she jobs to Lita, does that mean Lita has a shot against the men? I can understand Chyna having an ego was part of the issue, but it seems she was also difficult to work with in the sense of her putting over any of the women(how to book it, not attitude-wise), even with the neck injury angle to explain why she was put there to begin with. Jacqueline had wins over Crash Holly, but she'd go out and lose to Molly, Jazz, Victoria, etc. I still find it disappointing that outside of a few interactions, Jacqueline and Chyna never had a match, even if it feels like it would have been a squash...
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Post by Renslayer on Mar 13, 2023 0:04:35 GMT -5
It was a f***ed up situation because WWE refused to pay female talent. They say them as replaceable so when Sunny, Sable or Chyna in that era asked for more money they depushed them or fired them. It really blows my mind that an entire generation of women's wrestlers and personalities got shut out & lost all those opportunities because of that senile asshole running the WWF.
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Post by wendytorrancev1 on Mar 16, 2023 13:23:19 GMT -5
I have heard tale that she was supposed to turn heel after Judgment Day 2001 and carry out a series of attacks on Lita. The thing is, Chyna's popularity was certainly waning after her match with Ivory at Wrestlemania X-7. Meanwhile, Lita's popularity was ballooning exponentially. I would say it's arguable that Lita was the most popular female wrestler on the roster at that point in time. I don't see why putting Lita over Chyna would diminish Chyna's skill set on her beating men. Chyna would wrestle men, and it was never a guaranteed victory. Sure, she bested a few men here and there, but Chris Jericho was able to conquer her, and the only reason she was able to beat Hardcore Holly was because Chris Jericho was there to make sure she didn't get pinned and cost them the IC title. Both Lita and Chyna also made quick work of Dean Malenko in 2000.
I don't know where Chyna could have gone, as she pretty much blew threw the entire competition. She also was ostensibly difficult to work with in the ring from what I've heard, and Ivory pretty much had to put her over to make her look good, which earned her Chyna's respect. Would her in-ring work gotten better? I have no idea. I realistically think
I think her days were numbered anyway due to her former flame cheating on her with the boss' daughter, so they were searching for a reason to get her out of the company. I have heard a rumor that she went up to Vince himself and demanded the same amount of money as some of his main eventers. Apparently, that incensed his old ass and that was the straw that broke the camel's back. It honestly sucks and is heartbreaking if true.
Again, I don't know where she would have went during the InVasion angle or beyond. Maybe she would get into feuds with Billy Kidman and Tajiri while gunning for the Cruiserweight Championship? If I'm not mistaken, didn't Jacqueline win the Cruiserweight Championship at one point?
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Post by 06vwgti on Mar 16, 2023 19:05:31 GMT -5
Again, I don't know where she would have went during the InVasion angle or beyond. Maybe she would get into feuds with Billy Kidman and Tajiri while gunning for the Cruiserweight Championship? If I'm not mistaken, didn't Jacqueline win the Cruiserweight Championship at one point? Jacqueline did, but it was short two week reign and it was won by low blowing Chavo. In contrast to her matches with Crash Holly, the matches she had kind of sucked, its like they told her to tone it down, etc. Though I enjoyed the match with Chavo Classic, but I kind of expected more out of the matches
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Mar 16, 2023 19:13:49 GMT -5
It was a f***ed up situation because WWE refused to pay female talent. They say them as replaceable so when Sunny, Sable or Chyna in that era asked for more money they depushed them or fired them. It really blows my mind that an entire generation of women's wrestlers and personalities got shut out & lost all those opportunities because of that senile asshole running the WWF. Wasn't just him. That rotten old molesting hag had a lot to do with it too.
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Post by Susan "Poison" Candy on Mar 16, 2023 22:15:06 GMT -5
It really blows my mind that an entire generation of women's wrestlers and personalities got shut out & lost all those opportunities because of that senile asshole running the WWF. Wasn't just him. That rotten old molesting hag had a lot to do with it too. John Laurinaitis? Michael Hayes? Oh you mean The Fabulous Moo.....BANNED
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Mar 17, 2023 1:43:37 GMT -5
WWE could have mirrored my fantasy booking at the time and officially had an intergender division.
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