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Post by nevthebassist on Apr 4, 2023 3:14:08 GMT -5
Minus five stars.
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Post by canceled4truth on Apr 4, 2023 4:23:31 GMT -5
Zero. That was a failure in every way. f*** off Vince
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 4, 2023 4:36:55 GMT -5
I like how 98% of the time if a rating thread is super long it’s because of a fight breaking out and this time it’s just because Raw sucked so much.
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Post by mo on Apr 4, 2023 5:34:55 GMT -5
Tapped out when they dedicated an entire segment to Seth Rollins walking out of the ring to do literally nothing. That’s when it really became clear that, yeah, ain’t shit happening.
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Post by HMARK Center on Apr 4, 2023 6:09:21 GMT -5
So the vibe here seems to be:
-Waaaaaaay too little wrestling on a three hour wrestling show, especially during a commercial-free first hour.
-Way too much "get heat" booking.
-No real surprises on a post-WM Raw.
-The general air that Vince is fully back and doom is nigh.
Just reading the results I didn't get a feeling that this would be considered an all-time worst episode by many, but is that the gist?
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Post by canceled4truth on Apr 4, 2023 6:19:07 GMT -5
No, seriously, how the f*** did I go from "I'm so pumped to go to WrestleMania 40" to "Jesus maybe I'll still watch NXT weekly I guess" in less than 48 hours
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Post by Hurbster on Apr 4, 2023 6:25:53 GMT -5
I thought it was ok, not great but just ok. Not what you need after Wrestlemania (one of the most enjoyable shows I have seen for a while, bar the ending), but certainly not the harbinger of the imminent heat death of the Universe as seems to be suggested.
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Post by fw91 on Apr 4, 2023 6:26:52 GMT -5
I don’t really get it, I mean I get that feelings and emotions are still sour after Sunday night, but there have been worse shows imo. Was it good? No. But there have been A LOT worse. Bad is always better than boring nothingness. At least in my perspective
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Post by Fake Jesus on Apr 4, 2023 6:28:01 GMT -5
The interesting question is about the actual ratings. Because Rapist had them low-low the last time he was around
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Post by clifford on Apr 4, 2023 6:42:36 GMT -5
I don’t really get it, I mean I get that feelings and emotions are still sour after Sunday night, but there have been worse shows imo. Was it good? No. But there have been A LOT worse. Bad is always better than boring nothingness. At least in my perspective I think if Vince was still gone and this show happened, then its just a bad show, there's enough goodwill built up the last 9 months or so to say that, to move on, to still look forward to next week. But it really looks like Vince is back in the big chair, and that all the shit that drove people away from the WWE up to his 'retirement' last year is coming back too, and that influences such a negative reaction to this show. Its not just 'that was a shit show'; its 'oh, we're going back to every show being shit' |
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Post by mistery on Apr 4, 2023 6:59:06 GMT -5
The interesting question is about the actual ratings. Because Rapist had them low-low the last time he was around Ratings will likely be up this week (although the fact that things derailed quickly on the show likely means the second and third hours will crater potentially) but I wouldn't be shocked if ratings fall again starting next week. And as a result, ticket sales fall again, and revenue drops. Because its been proven at this point that Vince is poison when it comes to making money. The problem is that Endeavor has zero incentive to fire Vince. Hell, Ari WANTS Vince in charge of creative. Which he may regret because unlike the UFC, wrestling is a storyline focused product, and Vince's senility is going to do more harm than good. I don't see the product improving until Vince finally croaks. |
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Post by avenger on Apr 4, 2023 7:24:55 GMT -5
If that was a standard Raw, in the middle of June, it still would have been piss poor, and worth a 2, just for the Sami/Kevin/Profits match. But it's the biggest Raw of the year, on a day when there's likely to me more eyes on it than any point in years. It wasn't even a Vince Raw, it was one of the worst Vince Raws.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Apr 4, 2023 7:52:06 GMT -5
No, seriously, how the f*** did I go from "I'm so pumped to go to WrestleMania 40" to "Jesus maybe I'll still watch NXT weekly I guess" in less than 48 hours NO IDEA, PAL |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 4, 2023 7:55:16 GMT -5
The interesting question is about the actual ratings. Because Rapist had them low-low the last time he was around Between the commercial free first hour, being the night after Mania, and Brock being advertised for the main event they're likely going to be huge regardless. Next week's going to be a lot more telling. |
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Post by fw91 on Apr 4, 2023 8:18:04 GMT -5
The interesting question is about the actual ratings. Because Rapist had them low-low the last time he was around Between the commercial free first hour, being the night after Mania, and Brock being advertised for the main event they're likely going to be huge regardless. Next week's going to be a lot more telling. There’s the NCAA finals though that perhaps cut into RAW |
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Apr 4, 2023 8:19:44 GMT -5
I didn't watch and honestly, I'm glad.
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Post by J is Justice on Apr 4, 2023 8:29:17 GMT -5
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Post by Push R Truth on Apr 4, 2023 9:16:45 GMT -5
The shift in my overall opinion of the WWE from Saturday Night to Tuesday morning is vast. The journey from that overall high to this shitfest low is worthy of a 2 hour A&E WWE Special.
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Post by 4real on Apr 4, 2023 9:18:35 GMT -5
3/10. I was very close to giving it 0. I was so angry at the start of the show. So angry at HHH coming out and getting cheered despite booking that shite last night. Angry at Roman still being Champion. Angry at Cody settling for a tag match like a bitch. Angry at the prospect of Roman v Brock again (but hopefully that was extinguished by the closing segment).
Everything after that I barely cared about. KO & Sami just settled for the tag belts and didn’t bother addressing Roman. Didn’t care about The Street Profits. Seth segment was a complete waste of time. Lashley and Omos stuff also felt like a waste of my life.
It’s gets a 3 for some advancement on the Roman/Uso’s stuff, Riddle’s return, Damien Priest beating up Bad Bunny and Brock’s beat down on Cody. That’s me being generous. Vince is back so I’m done with Raw & Smackdown will only watch PPV’s from now on. I’m tired of this.
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Post by khali on Apr 4, 2023 9:50:19 GMT -5
So the vibe here seems to be: -Waaaaaaay too little wrestling on a three hour wrestling show, especially during a commercial-free first hour. -Way too much "get heat" booking. -No real surprises on a post-WM Raw. -The general air that Vince is fully back and doom is nigh. Just reading the results I didn't get a feeling that this would be considered an all-time worst episode by many, but is that the gist? And maybe it’s just me, but hyping up a big huge main event and not doing it at all is going to make people sour. Brock never wrestles on TV and Roman rarely does. |
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