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Post by champchumpchange on Apr 4, 2023 8:17:47 GMT -5
OK so, the game still did alright because people bought it to piss other people off. Noone is watching a terrible 7 season show just to piss other people off. This is going to bomb And, mostly, because it's a good game in a universe people still love and wish to interact with.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Apr 4, 2023 8:18:40 GMT -5
This is the only theory that makes sense, along with how nobody on Earth gives a shit about Cormorant Shrike or whatever her detective series is called, and the reports of how her profits from non Potter stuff have been tanking. I'm not saying there's nothing to this theory, but do you really think it makes more sense then a simple "I want to make a gazillion dollars again"? I'm not trying to downplay Rowling's transphobia, I'm just saying, maybe you're overthinking things?
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 4, 2023 8:47:20 GMT -5
HBOMAX already has DC stuff. They should just do Books of Magic.
As far as the gross Terfy controversy and such, one has to remember the percentage of folks that even know about it is likely to be small in a relative sense. Not everyone is as terminally online as those of us here are.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Apr 4, 2023 9:40:23 GMT -5
I don't see a need for this. Sure, the original movies are 20 years old at this point but the proper move is to move forward at this point, not backwards. Sure, they tried that, or rather they went for the prequel route. I thought those movies were fine, but they suffered from what most prequels suffer from. The predestination that was inherent in the films affected the films and where they could go.
Honestly, I always thought that a TV series was the way to go. I just thought it would be best to make that IGN April Fool's gag promo a reality. I figure that there would have been a real appetite shortly after the films concluded for there to be an Aurors show. You can feature new characters or bring background characters to the forefront, leaving the movies' main cast to be guest characters at best.
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Post by grunt on Apr 4, 2023 10:11:39 GMT -5
Putting aside the controversy, and the fact that Warner is desperate for content and proven IPs, it makes sense : a prestige Tv series with 1 season = 1 book has always been the way to go, indeed, and 20-25 years after the first movie is kinda enough to justifiy reinventing the franchise.
That said, is it necessary ? Absolutely not. And it will only be compared unfavorably to the movies, to their cast, to their production design, to their music, and so on.
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Post by Sephiroth on Apr 4, 2023 10:23:09 GMT -5
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Post by Sephiroth on Apr 4, 2023 10:29:01 GMT -5
Should be fun watching reactionaries lose their minds as WB make milquetoast attempts to whitewash over the antisemitic goblins, the happy elf slaves and all the other things that slid under the radar the first time around. And how JK Rowling I’d going to react. This is going to be train carrying tnt through a minefield in slow motion level disaster-and it is going to be glorious!
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Post by FinalGwen on Apr 4, 2023 11:27:40 GMT -5
This is the only theory that makes sense, along with how nobody on Earth gives a shit about Cormorant Shrike or whatever her detective series is called, and the reports of how her profits from non Potter stuff have been tanking. I'm not saying there's nothing to this theory, but do you really think it makes more sense then a simple "I want to make a gazillion dollars again"? I'm not trying to downplay Rowling's transphobia, I'm just saying, maybe you're overthinking things? I mean yeah, if she wants to make that kind of money again though, everything else she's ever tried has flopped hard in comparison, so she's gonna have to go back to the one time things worked. But I do think that a big benefit for Rowling will be trying to push Daniel Radcliffe et al out of the public consciousness in relation to her work, given how she's been repeatedly embarassed by a cast who don't see their career links as enough reason to justify her open and rampant bigotry, and if she doesn't play a big hand in overseeing casting I'll be very surprised. Anyway I hope everyone's excited for a retread with more focus on Hermione getting made fun of for not liking slavery.
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Post by Push R Truth on Apr 4, 2023 11:44:27 GMT -5
I think the two hardest hurdles will be:
Best of luck trying to top John Williams with that new score. Best of luck trying to cast a Snape that won't be a discount Alan Rickman.
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Post by dirtyoldman on Apr 4, 2023 11:59:35 GMT -5
I think the two hardest hurdles will be: Best of luck trying to top John Williams with that new score. Best of luck trying to cast a Snape that won't be a discount Alan Rickman. That is indeed a problem as the movie cast has been so ingrained in people's heads that Daniel Radcliffe is Harry potter and vice versa. Still if they can go through half a dozen batmans in a short space...
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Post by salz4life on Apr 4, 2023 12:03:02 GMT -5
OK so, the game still did alright because people bought it to piss other people off. Noone is watching a terrible 7 season show just to piss other people off. This is going to bomb And, mostly, because it's a good game in a universe people still love and wish to interact with. I'm loving the game and I'm a fringe Harry Potter fan. I'll give the show a shot.
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Post by salz4life on Apr 4, 2023 12:03:52 GMT -5
I think the two hardest hurdles will be: Best of luck trying to top John Williams with that new score. Best of luck trying to cast a Snape that won't be a discount Alan Rickman. I think it's going to be tough to replace most of the cast, to be honest. I'll still give it a shot though.
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 4, 2023 12:31:59 GMT -5
Sounds shit.
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Post by champchumpchange on Apr 4, 2023 13:02:42 GMT -5
I love that universe, loved the books, loved the movies, loved the game.
This is good news!
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Post by chrom on Apr 4, 2023 13:03:41 GMT -5
Maybe like Legacy, Slytherin won't be shown as automatically moustache twirling evil
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Post by King Boo on Apr 4, 2023 13:23:57 GMT -5
I think some people miss the overall point in the books, because they want to point fingers and say, "SEE?" Take the house elves, and Hermione with S.P.E.W. - the *actual* message is that people poo-pooed Hermione because she was... well, she was acting like Hermione, but she was repeatedly proven right.
Dobby was abused by the Malfoys but treated kindly by Harry, and in the end Dobby was why Harry & Co. got away from Malfoy Manor. The kindness and caring was returned, and it was against those who hurt Dobby. Kreacher was a difficult piece of work and I completely understand Sirius's utter disdain for him, but it came back to bite him in the end. When he was inevitably shown some understanding regarding Regulus, Kreacher softened up to the trio, including Hermione. In the end, Kreacher lead the elves into fighting for the good guys during The Battle of Hogwarts.
More than once the books touch on the ways wizardkind could have treated other magical beings better, and like Dumbledore said to Harry at the end of Order of the Phoenix, at that time they were starting to reap what was sown.
I know there's the whole trans issue with Rowling that I'm not going to get into here, but really, people just love Harry Potter. The game has sold a f***ton of units so far, and the large majority of that is because people love the property and wanted to play the game. It's not about anything else, just the world and the game.
And you know what? The game is super fun, and a love letter to fans of the series. The attention to detail and minor bits of lore is astounding. I lost track of the amount of times I smiled or exclaimed something when I caught a reference. No adaptations of a loved property seem to do that anymore, but this game did in spades and it was wonderful.
As far as this potential show goes, I think they have a really hard task ahead of them and I don't particularly think it's necessary. I did like that supposedly it'd be a book a season, which would allow more depth on that front, but I would much rather a new story (not the Cursed Child, though. Never the Cursed Child) that's connected, or a different prequel, like the Marauders, which would personally be my choice. And the casting would have to be amazing, because it was stellar the first time around. Radcliffe *is* Harry Potter, Rickman *is* Snape... those are possibly insurmountable issues. But overall, I don't really see the need to re-tell a story that was told not that long ago, and has stayed around ever since.
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Post by King Boo on Apr 4, 2023 13:25:40 GMT -5
Maybe like Legacy, Slytherin won't be shown as automatically moustache twirling evil The character of Ominis had such a great story. Sebastian, too - they're my two favorite original characters in the game - but Ominis getting such depth was unexpected.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Apr 4, 2023 13:28:19 GMT -5
A lot of those big franchises have gone from a movie every few years to several tv show episodes every few years. Hogwarts Legacy was a well-received major hit and proved the interest is still there despite the Fantastic Beast movies underperforming, so this makes plenty of sense to me. You'll be able to do the books more justice with less time limitations, too.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Apr 4, 2023 13:30:45 GMT -5
I think some people miss the overall point in the books, because they want to point fingers and say, "SEE?" Take the house elves, and Hermione with S.P.E.W. - the *actual* message is that people poo-pooed Hermione because she was... well, she was acting like Hermione, but she was repeatedly proven right. Dobby was abused by the Malfoys but treated kindly by Harry, and in the end Dobby was why Harry & Co. got away from Malfoy Manor. The kindness and caring was returned, and it was against those who hurt Dobby. Kreacher was a difficult piece of work and I completely understand Sirius's utter disdain for him, but it came back to bite him in the end. When he was inevitably shown some understanding regarding Regulus, Kreacher softened up to the trio, including Hermione. In the end, Kreacher lead the elves into fighting for the good guys during The Battle of Hogwarts. More than once the books touch on the ways wizardkind could have treated other magical beings better, and like Dumbledore said to Harry at the end of Order of the Phoenix, at that time they were starting to reap what was sown. I know there's the whole trans issue with Rowling that I'm not going to get into here, but really, people just love Harry Potter. The game has sold a f***ton of units so far, and the large majority of that is because people love the property and wanted to play the game. It's not about anything else, just the world and the game. And you know what? The game is super fun, and a love letter to fans of the series. The attention to detail and minor bits of lore is astounding. I lost track of the amount of times I smiled or exclaimed something when I caught a reference. No adaptations of a loved property seem to do that anymore, but this game did in spades and it was wonderful. As far as this potential show goes, I think they have a really hard task ahead of them and I don't particularly think it's necessary. I did like that supposedly it'd be a book a season, which would allow more depth on that front, but I would much rather a new story (not the Cursed Child, though. Never the Cursed Child) that's connected, or a different prequel, like the Marauders, which would personally be my choice. And the casting would have to be amazing, because it was stellar the first time around. Radcliffe *is* Harry Potter, Rickman *is* Snape... those are possibly insurmountable issues. But overall, I don't really see the need to re-tell a story that was told not that long ago, and has stayed around ever since. Agreed with everything here. Re: SPEW, not only acting like Hermione, but that tends to be the typical reaction people have when someone points out that their long-accepted views or practices are problematic. Re the game: I knew I was in for a good time lore-wise with how they used the thestrals in the opening. I was like AHHHHHHH *points at screen*
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Post by Bo Rida on Apr 4, 2023 13:42:45 GMT -5
Agree with those that say everything about it seems to be a poison chalice. Following the beloved actors and music is going to be hard. Throw in the backlash to JK Rowling and the more questionable bits of the books and they face hate coming from all sides.
Another thing is how it all looks. Do they re-use sets, creature designs, logos etc or go with something new? They won't be able to use the location filming they did for the movies.
If they really want the money I think animation is the way to go.
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