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Post by fw91 on Apr 6, 2023 10:42:45 GMT -5
I said it in the AEW thread; The immediate 180 some fans pulled, I just hope they didn't get whiplash doing it. From "Absolute future star, WWE champ within a year" to "Meh he's average, nothing special" You sure it’s the same people though? I never even heard of him until recently.
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Post by 06vwgti on Apr 6, 2023 10:51:43 GMT -5
I said it in the AEW thread; The immediate 180 some fans pulled, I just hope they didn't get whiplash doing it. From "Absolute future star, WWE champ within a year" to "Meh he's average, nothing special" You sure it’s the same people though? I never even heard of him until recently. But haven't you admitted before you only watch wwe?
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Post by fw91 on Apr 6, 2023 11:05:37 GMT -5
You sure it’s the same people though? I never even heard of him until recently. But haven't you admitted before you only watch wwe? Yeah that’s my point in a sense. I say he’s no big loss not in a disrespectful sense, but in a sense that he wouldn’t do much in the mold that is WWE no matter how good he may because of how often I watch WWE. To me he comes from the mold of post Nakamura black and gold call ups who have talent but aren’t the best fits. Thus, I’m not sure if Ringmaster’s comments about people taking 180’s are accurate.
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Post by 06vwgti on Apr 6, 2023 11:17:16 GMT -5
But haven't you admitted before you only watch wwe? Yeah that’s my point in a sense. I say he’s no big loss not in a disrespectful sense, but in a sense that he wouldn’t do much in the mold that is WWE no matter how good he may because of how often I watch WWE. To me he comes from the mold of post Nakamura black and gold call ups who have talent but aren’t the best fits. Thus, I’m not sure if Ringmaster’s comments about people taking 180’s are accurate. I don't think everyone lives in a wwe only bubble and think you can debut people without sticking them in NXT.
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Post by fw91 on Apr 6, 2023 11:24:06 GMT -5
Yeah that’s my point in a sense. I say he’s no big loss not in a disrespectful sense, but in a sense that he wouldn’t do much in the mold that is WWE no matter how good he may because of how often I watch WWE. To me he comes from the mold of post Nakamura black and gold call ups who have talent but aren’t the best fits. Thus, I’m not sure if Ringmaster’s comments about people taking 180’s are accurate. I don't think everyone lives in a wwe only bubble and think you can debut people without sticking them in NXT. Not without vignettes imo. If he did sign with WWE, and debuted to nothing but “Jay White” on the titan tron, I don’t think it would have been a big deal. We’ll never know to be fair, but that’s how I would have pictured it.
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Post by 06vwgti on Apr 6, 2023 11:27:49 GMT -5
I don't think everyone lives in a wwe only bubble and think you can debut people without sticking them in NXT. Not without vignettes imo. If he did sign with WWE, and debuted to nothing but “Jay White” on the titan tron, I don’t think it would have been a big deal. We’ll never know to be fair, but that’s how I would have pictured it. I don't know. I just think sticking him or some others that do have tv experience and working a mic with a crowd down in NXT as a downgrade.
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Post by HMARK Center on Apr 6, 2023 11:35:24 GMT -5
...is this satire? No, seriously, have any of you ever actually watched the guy?Yeah, and nothing I've seen of him isn't anything I haven't seen other guys do better. Like, I actually wanna drill down on this ,because no one's ever been able to answer the question: What does he do that NO ONE else does? Yeah, but you wrongly described his gimmick and everything, so it's really baffling where these takes are coming from given this guy's track record. Shit's subjective at the end of the day, but "edgelord" simply isn't the guy's gimmick, like not even remotely near.
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Post by pinja on Apr 6, 2023 11:38:15 GMT -5
Jay White is off the table, but WWE still has Bray Wyatt. He'll get repackaged as "Beyblade" Bray Wyatt and shout "Let it rip, man!" before hitting his opponents with a razor-sharp Beyblade.
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Post by coleslaw on Apr 6, 2023 11:41:57 GMT -5
Jay White is off the table, but WWE still has Bray Wyatt. He'll get repackaged as "Beyblade" Bray Wyatt and shout "Let it rip, man!" before hitting his opponents with a razor-sharp Beyblade. Michael Cole: "Here comes "Beyblade" Bray Wyatt, big fan of the Nintendo Switch"
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Post by The Legend of Groose on Apr 6, 2023 11:46:29 GMT -5
Jay White is off the table, but WWE still has Bray Wyatt. He'll get repackaged as "Beyblade" Bray Wyatt and shout "Let it rip, man!" before hitting his opponents with a razor-sharp Beyblade. Have him join up with Rhea Ripley.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2023 11:48:07 GMT -5
It's just funny that there was this much controversy over a guy that has already shown up on AEW like 5 times over the last year or two...It always fascinates me how much social and dirt sheets work people up
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Post by pinja on Apr 6, 2023 11:49:38 GMT -5
Jay White is off the table, but WWE still has Bray Wyatt. He'll get repackaged as "Beyblade" Bray Wyatt and shout "Let it rip, man!" before hitting his opponents with a razor-sharp Beyblade. Michael Cole: "Here comes "Beyblade" Bray Wyatt, big fan of the Nintendo Switch"
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 6, 2023 11:50:27 GMT -5
It's just funny that there was this much controversy over a guy that has already shown up on AEW like 5 times over the last year or two...It always fascinates me how much social and dirt sheets work people up I think him debuting in WWE would have been a bigger wow factor for that very reason. White was in a pretty major match in AEW just last year.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2023 11:52:08 GMT -5
I said it in the AEW thread; The immediate 180 some fans pulled, I just hope they didn't get whiplash doing it. From "Absolute future star, WWE champ within a year" to "Meh he's average, nothing special" It was a pretty ho-hum debut considering he's been there a few times before...count me fully in the "glad this is over" camp. White would have went directly to NXT and White would not have wanted that...No way in hell does he get the AJ Styles debut in WWE for a guy who has 75% less North American notoriety. (not fair just accurate)
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Post by lockedontarget on Apr 6, 2023 12:10:39 GMT -5
It's just funny that there was this much controversy over a guy that has already shown up on AEW like 5 times over the last year or two...It always fascinates me how much social and dirt sheets work people up I think the way he left NJPW made WWE feel more likely than AEW. He lost a loser leaves Japan match, and then after that lost another match in the US that kicked him out of American NJPW shows, too. People felt that they wouldn’t have gone to such lengths to banish him from NJPW shows if he was just going to work for a company that regularly works with NJPW.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2023 12:14:57 GMT -5
It's just funny that there was this much controversy over a guy that has already shown up on AEW like 5 times over the last year or two...It always fascinates me how much social and dirt sheets work people up I think the way he left NJPW made WWE feel more likely than AEW. He lost a loser leaves Japan match, and then after that lost another match in the US that kicked him out of American NJPW shows, too. People felt that they wouldn’t have gone to such lengths to banish him from NJPW shows if he was just going to work for a company that regularly works with NJPW. Okay that is is fair but as highlighted here how would a large majority of WWE fans that do not follow the entire industry know that and in turn how does that correlate to a booming WWE debut? It's as if some people are more mad that WWE wouldn't want him then anything I also think people online greatly over play the exposure that the majority of the WWE audience (millions of fans growing up with only WWE in town) has to independent and overseas products regardless of this being the digital age.
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Post by lockedontarget on Apr 6, 2023 12:19:40 GMT -5
I think the way he left NJPW made WWE feel more likely than AEW. He lost a loser leaves Japan match, and then after that lost another match in the US that kicked him out of American NJPW shows, too. People felt that they wouldn’t have gone to such lengths to banish him from NJPW shows if he was just going to work for a company that regularly works with NJPW. Okay that is is fair but as highlighted here how would a large majority of WWE fans that do not follow the entire industry know that and in turn how does that correlate to a booming WWE debut? It's as if some people are more mad that WWE wouldn't want him then anything I’m just saying that the circumstances of his departure kind of fed the idea that he was probably going to WWE, to the point that I think a lot of us sort of took it as a given. Plus he’s a fantastic talker who works a high-psychology style and could fit in the WWE main event scene very well. Personally I’m a little shocked the WWE didn’t lock him down because he seems like such a slam dunk. I don’t think the fanbase needs to know him in advance, I think he would win over the crowds pretty quickly. But hey, I am happy he landed in AEW.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 6, 2023 12:20:03 GMT -5
It's just funny that there was this much controversy over a guy that has already shown up on AEW like 5 times over the last year or two...It always fascinates me how much social and dirt sheets work people up I think the way he left NJPW made WWE feel more likely than AEW. He lost a loser leaves Japan match, and then after that lost another match in the US that kicked him out of American NJPW shows, too. People felt that they wouldn’t have gone to such lengths to banish him from NJPW shows if he was just going to work for a company that regularly works with NJPW. I mean if the reports are correct they were in deep talks and WWE just... stopped talking to him I feel like he was all but there but maybe the merger froze talent hires or White got wind that Vince was getting more and more power until what we inevitably have seen take course this week, but all in all you can't say there wasn't anything there, in the end White just went with AEW and it happens I liked the debut, I didn't expect him to just walk out to start the show and the Long Island crowd didn't either. They'll likely only continue to show and build White up as a big deal, and being in promo offs with someone like Starks is a really good way to start that.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Apr 6, 2023 12:31:37 GMT -5
He has a very average look. He kind of reminds me of an Adam Cole. I think WWE will be fine without him. He would have got lost in the shuffle. Well, he's no Austin Theory.
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Post by Chiral on Apr 6, 2023 12:32:45 GMT -5
Maybe the major talent WWE was prioritizing over Jay was Vince
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