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Post by Kalmia on Jul 5, 2023 13:04:21 GMT -5
I'd imagine both. Meltzer's info isn't going to be as up to date as someone that is pulling data from the TicketMaster website and then reporting it shortly after. But that data only says what tickets have gone and I presume it doesn't differentiate between sales and comps. The WrestleTix is purely what’s been taken and doesn’t know whether it’s paid or comp. I assume Meltzer is getting the paid number from somewhere else. But as of the Observer on Friday, he was reporting 66,618 paid. Yeah, isn't that what I said? Wrestletix pulls the data from Ticketmaster and doesn't know the difference. Meltzer may have reported it on Friday but we don't know when he was told that number. Wrestletix can get the data whenever they want directly from the website so it's bound to be more up to date.
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Post by markymark on Jul 5, 2023 13:18:31 GMT -5
I'd imagine both. Meltzer's info isn't going to be as up to date as someone that is pulling data from the TicketMaster website and then reporting it shortly after. But that data only says what tickets have gone and I presume it doesn't differentiate between sales and comps. The WrestleTix is purely what’s been taken and doesn’t know whether it’s paid or comp. I assume Meltzer is getting the paid number from somewhere else. But as of the Observer on Friday, he was reporting 66,618 paid.
This was the latest update.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Jul 5, 2023 14:03:59 GMT -5
When you get up to 70,000 I really think it stops mattering how many people have paid.
There's zero chance this isn't announced as the biggest UK attendance in history.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jul 5, 2023 14:13:16 GMT -5
When you get up to 70,000 I really think it stops mattering how many people have paid. There's zero chance this isn't announced as the biggest UK attendance in history. Yeah using WWE numbers, if they have 85K in the building they could announce it as 100,000 as the “worked number” if they wanted
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Post by Dub H on Jul 5, 2023 14:16:02 GMT -5
When you get up to 70,000 I really think it stops mattering how many people have paid. There's zero chance this isn't announced as the biggest UK attendance in history. Yeah using WWE numbers, if they have 85K in the building they could announce it as 100,000 as the “worked number” if they wanted Thays pretty much what they did with wm32. They used something like people that were working there to pad the number to 100,000.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Jul 5, 2023 15:33:42 GMT -5
I thought the Inoki retirement number was inflated, like maybe in the mid 50,000 range because of the logistics of getting that many seats onto the field.
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Post by Fundertaker on Jul 5, 2023 16:03:01 GMT -5
I thought the Inoki retirement number was inflated, like maybe in the mid 50,000 range because of the logistics of getting that many seats onto the field. I believe there are 3 actual sellouts in Tokyo Dome history for wrestling: both Takada/Muto matches and Inoki retirement. Hashimoto/Takada, Sasaki/Muto and Sasaki/Kawada had a few thousand comps (which were the norm even back then) and the Giant Baba Memorial Show was a goodbye show, so I don't know if I can count it in the same way as New Japan's efforts (since saying goodbye to Baba was the draw, not anything actually related to then current All Japan wrestling). Then again, most of these was stuff that was discussed in message boards almost 20 years ago, might have a few of those mixed up. Now, if any of those shows actually drew 65-70k people, that's another thing althogether, considering Japanese wrestling propensity to inflate numbers back in the day (not so much nowadays with its main companies being backed by public traded companies that have to put actual numbers out).
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Post by clifford on Jul 7, 2023 3:41:58 GMT -5
There's few names I feel 'have' to be on this card, but one of them is Orange Cassidy.
This International title reign and the work he's put on for the company this last 12 months deserves to be acknowledged on a show of this size. Add in that he's the International champion and its a no-brainer. It simply has to happen. To be perfectly honest with you I think I'd prefer him getting his win back vs Ospreay on this show than seeing Omega/Ospreay 3 here. But even still, OC has to get his crowning moment at Wembley. He has to. Whether that's the best title reign in AEW's history coming to an end or his biggest title defense to date, it has to happen there.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jul 7, 2023 3:46:38 GMT -5
If nothing else I agree that the International belt MUST be defended at this show, otherwise it isn't an international belt
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Post by clifford on Jul 7, 2023 3:49:50 GMT -5
I'm shaking with how f***ing cool that initial 'Jane' drop would be at Wembley, oh my god is it August 27th yet
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 7, 2023 3:56:39 GMT -5
There's few names I feel 'have' to be on this card, but one of them is Orange Cassidy. This International title reign and the work he's put on for the company this last 12 months deserves to be acknowledged on a show of this size. Add in that he's the International champion and its a no-brainer. It simply has to happen. To be perfectly honest with you I think I'd prefer him getting his win back vs Ospreay on this show than seeing Omega/Ospreay 3 here. But even still, OC has to get his crowning moment at Wembley. He has to. Whether that's the best title reign in AEW's history coming to an end or his biggest title defense to date, it has to happen there. I feel like the match was teased at the end of Forbidden Door Orange vs Sabre vs Shibata Winner gets all three belts. International, Television, PURE. Or loser loses their belt to the winner as another possible stip. Barring New Japan and Death Before Dishonor results this would be the idea to me after how the Forbidden Door match ended and they were all arguing and looking at each others belts..
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Post by markymark on Jul 7, 2023 7:05:29 GMT -5
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Post by salz4life on Jul 7, 2023 10:50:18 GMT -5
Not only does OC have to defend the title... I think this is where he needs to drop the title. Therefore, it needs to be a "hot" opponent. This could be where they allow NJPW to take an AEW belt so Sabre or Shibata (who already has the ROH Pure title) would work. It could be someone else I'm not thinking of. I don't know.
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Post by Instant Classic on Jul 7, 2023 11:09:46 GMT -5
Not only does OC have to defend the title... I think this is where he needs to drop the title. Therefore, it needs to be a "hot" opponent. This could be where they allow NJPW to take an AEW belt so Sabre or Shibata (who already has the ROH Pure title) would work. It could be someone else I'm not thinking of. I don't know. I want Takeshita to be the one to dethrone OC, that belt would just fit him so well.
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Post by salz4life on Jul 7, 2023 11:12:04 GMT -5
Not only does OC have to defend the title... I think this is where he needs to drop the title. Therefore, it needs to be a "hot" opponent. This could be where they allow NJPW to take an AEW belt so Sabre or Shibata (who already has the ROH Pure title) would work. It could be someone else I'm not thinking of. I don't know. I want Takeshita to be the one to dethrone OC, that belt would just fit him so well. Didn't even think of him.... I could definitely get behind that. Takeshita is so much better as a heel for me right now.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jul 7, 2023 11:17:52 GMT -5
Not only does OC have to defend the title... I think this is where he needs to drop the title. Therefore, it needs to be a "hot" opponent. This could be where they allow NJPW to take an AEW belt so Sabre or Shibata (who already has the ROH Pure title) would work. It could be someone else I'm not thinking of. I don't know. I want Takeshita to be the one to dethrone OC, that belt would just fit him so well. This would be great
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Post by dirtyoldman on Jul 9, 2023 6:35:09 GMT -5
Ok, im going to level with you guys. I haven't kept up with WWE in years but I do catch a little AEW on ITV when its on late at night which I watch and enjoy, although it's late at night and I'm pretty tired. I don't follow the story lines but just watch what I see.
Now I've got that out of the way, I see AEW are doing Wembley Stadium in August. From what I see, it's sold extremely well. My question, are we talking a full on event like SummerSlam 92? How on earth did that happen? Fair play to AEW just amazed it all just passed me by.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 9, 2023 6:38:03 GMT -5
Ok, im going to level with you guys. I haven't kept up with WWE in years but I do catch a little AEW on ITV when its on late at night which I watch and enjoy, although it's late at night and I'm pretty tired. I don't follow the story lines but just watch what I see. Now I've got that out of the way, I see AEW are doing Wembley Stadium in August. From what I see, it's sold extremely well. My question, are we talking a full on event like SummerSlam 92? How on earth did that happen? Fair play to AEW just amazed it all just passed me by. They advertised it really well and the UK is a hot wrestling market right now, fair chance they get over 80K by August Was a gamble and it paid off, and they've done this mind you with no card announced Very worth keeping up with the product as the event approaches!
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Jul 9, 2023 18:20:38 GMT -5
Ok, im going to level with you guys. I haven't kept up with WWE in years but I do catch a little AEW on ITV when its on late at night which I watch and enjoy, although it's late at night and I'm pretty tired. I don't follow the story lines but just watch what I see. Now I've got that out of the way, I see AEW are doing Wembley Stadium in August. From what I see, it's sold extremely well. My question, are we talking a full on event like SummerSlam 92? How on earth did that happen? Fair play to AEW just amazed it all just passed me by. They advertised it really well and the UK is a hot wrestling market right now, fair chance they get over 80K by August Was a gamble and it paid off, and they've done this mind you with no card announced Very worth keeping up with the product as the event approaches! Yeah, the fact they have sold this many tickets with no card is crazy. I don't know what TV numbers AEW pulls in the UK but it's clear there is a demand for the product.
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Post by Ryushinku on Jul 10, 2023 3:48:02 GMT -5
AEW will announce it as 93,174 attending, then Dave will say it's actually 78,001.
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