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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 31, 2023 11:22:56 GMT -5
My thoughts exactly, “better start putting a card and angles together for $50” lmao Maybe “All Out” will be $20-something bucks, so you get both for $70-something. Because you have to believe they believe ppl will shell out the full price for “All In” and its spectacle. Kinda confuses me why tk was so vague about it for months for it just be on ppv like usual? Why not announce it like that ages ago? God only knows what they've been trying to hammer out: online options, package deals for both shows, whatever other alternative distribution since they no doubt know that two PPVs back to back weeks is a big ask if things are stuck at full price, etc. I still doubt it ends up just being "both shows are normal PPV for $50 each", so my guess is there's still haggling going on and they can't say anything until they know for certain. Yeah, these things can take a lot of time to sort out, which was probably why the only thing that could be done is to not say much and threaten that. Like, it sucks but if Tony tried to say that it would be the first show on Max or anything like that, it would just annoy all involved, PPV providers, WBD themselves etc.
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Post by Error on Jul 31, 2023 11:33:43 GMT -5
I'll just say to remember that despite having the Network, WWE still sells shows at $50 on regular ppv providers.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jul 31, 2023 11:42:46 GMT -5
I'll just say to remember that despite having the Network, WWE still sells shows at $50 on regular ppv providers. I don’t think anyone would be complaining about two $50 PPV offerings back to back if they also had the option of signing up for a $10-15 streaming service instead and watch the same shows.
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Post by Error on Jul 31, 2023 11:52:21 GMT -5
I'll just say to remember that despite having the Network, WWE still sells shows at $50 on regular ppv providers. I don’t think anyone would be complaining about two $50 PPV offerings back to back if they also had the option of signing up for a $10-15 streaming service instead and watch the same shows. Yeah, that's kinda my point. We don't know that something isn't being worked on/out, just it will be available on ppv and that doesn't really mean much. And AEW just recently trademarked stuff for a streaming service. PPV access just ensures the large swaths of the country (assuming it starts US only) that still don't have broadband internet access can see the shows.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jul 31, 2023 11:56:47 GMT -5
I don’t think anyone would be complaining about two $50 PPV offerings back to back if they also had the option of signing up for a $10-15 streaming service instead and watch the same shows. Yeah, that's kinda my point. We don't know that something isn't being worked on/out, just it will be available on ppv and that doesn't really mean much. And AEW just recently trademarked stuff for a streaming service. PPV access just ensures the large swaths of the country (assuming it starts US only) that still don't have broadband internet access can see the shows. Oh you’re saying you think it will be available via streaming as well? That would run counter to what Meltzer and others have been reporting the last couple of weeks.
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Post by Error on Jul 31, 2023 11:59:18 GMT -5
Yeah, that's kinda my point. We don't know that something isn't being worked on/out, just it will be available on ppv and that doesn't really mean much. And AEW just recently trademarked stuff for a streaming service. PPV access just ensures the large swaths of the country (assuming it starts US only) that still don't have broadband internet access can see the shows. Oh you’re saying you think it will be available via streaming as well? That would run counter to what Meltzer and others have been reporting the last couple of weeks. I'm just going off that embedded Tweet a page or two back and the recent trademarking AEW did. I have greatly fallen out of the news loop unless I see it here or on one of the few Facebook things I follow.
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Post by Kalmia on Jul 31, 2023 12:00:18 GMT -5
Until things are officially announced, nobody knows anything. It'll suck if there are two $50 PPVs in eight days (or however many days it is) but until it's announced it's not worth getting worked up over, IMO.
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Post by Moppy on Jul 31, 2023 12:22:22 GMT -5
So All In will likely be pay-per-view but has it been 100% confirmed that All Out will also be PPV?
(I'm going to get so confused this month and end up talking about All Shake It All About.)
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Post by markymark on Jul 31, 2023 12:41:01 GMT -5
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Post by markymark on Jul 31, 2023 13:15:19 GMT -5
Well it looks like they will invite Grado to be part of the show..
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Post by markymark on Jul 31, 2023 14:23:12 GMT -5
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jul 31, 2023 14:26:24 GMT -5
It's honestly poor form that all this information is coming out by reporters asking the TV providers instead of a coordinated push from AEW. Not saying it'd have an impact on the quality of the show or anything to that degree, but jeez.
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Post by Kalmia on Jul 31, 2023 14:50:32 GMT -5
It's honestly poor form that all this information is coming out by reporters asking the TV providers instead of a coordinated push from AEW. Not saying it'd have an impact on the quality of the show or anything to that degree, but jeez. IDK, I've worked with businesses that have things to announce and reveal before and they often sit on news for a few days to announce it in the most impactful way. Confirming the details on Dynamite (as they did with the show itself) will reach more people and be more impactful than a tweet would be.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jul 31, 2023 15:03:43 GMT -5
It's honestly poor form that all this information is coming out by reporters asking the TV providers instead of a coordinated push from AEW. Not saying it'd have an impact on the quality of the show or anything to that degree, but jeez. These things are always signed and nailed down before they're announced, and that always leaves wiggle room for reporters to just ask someone who doesn't have much stake in it what's happening. If they announce this on Wednesday, or if there's broader details of other stuff they're still sorting out, this is just the drawbacks of linear time.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 31, 2023 15:08:14 GMT -5
It's honestly poor form that all this information is coming out by reporters asking the TV providers instead of a coordinated push from AEW. Not saying it'd have an impact on the quality of the show or anything to that degree, but jeez. IDK, I've worked with businesses that have things to announce and reveal before and they often sit on news for a few days to announce it in the most impactful way. Confirming the details on Dynamite (as they did with the show itself) will reach more people and be more impactful than a tweet would be. Exactly. The only reason people are making a bigger deal of this than usual is because of what this show means and, yeah, I understand that but there is a process to these things and if you look through history of television, never mind pro wrestling, this has been the case more than once.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 31, 2023 15:42:49 GMT -5
Well it looks like they will invite Grado to be part of the show..
I mean I feel like Grado should be? Dude's still pretty big over in the UK and Jarrett's a good choice to do it with.
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Post by ANuclearError on Jul 31, 2023 15:53:12 GMT -5
Well it looks like they will invite Grado to be part of the show..
I mean I feel like Grado should be? Dude's still pretty big over in the UK and Jarrett's a good choice to do it with. I dunno, as someone who used to follow ICW pre-pandemic and who liked Grado when there was a lot of criticism to him during his TNA run. I'm not so sure about this.
Even during the peak of the attention he was getting, it was still very concentrated on Scotland specifically rather than the UK as a whole. And even before the pandemic settled in, he had pivoted to spending a lot more time doing TV/radio gigs rather than bumping. This even included missing a major ICW where he was part of a big angle because he was filming one of the TV shows he does up here.
Cagematch lists just 11 matches he's been in during the pandemic, so he's definitely going to be dealing with ring rust (and workrate was never his strong point). The best case scenario I see for him is at ringside for Colt or something like that during the preshow.
That said, his drawing power in Glasgow is still pretty decent, a show he booked at the theatre he does Christmas panto for drew 1400 fans.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 31, 2023 15:55:01 GMT -5
I mean I feel like Grado should be? Dude's still pretty big over in the UK and Jarrett's a good choice to do it with. I dunno, as someone who used to follow ICW pre-pandemic and who liked Grado when there was a lot of criticism to him during his TNA run. I'm not so sure about this.
Even during the peak of the attention he was getting, it was still very concentrated on Scotland specifically rather than the UK as a whole. And even before the pandemic settled in, he had pivoted to spending a lot more time doing TV/radio gigs rather than bumping. This even included missing a major ICW where he was part of a big angle because he was filming one of the TV shows he does up here.
Cagematch lists just 11 matches he's been in during the pandemic, so he's definitely going to be dealing with ring rust (and workrate was never his strong point). The best case scenario I see for him is at ringside for Colt or something like that during the preshow. Very ok with Colt Cabana vs Jeff Jarrett, or a tag, Grado and Cabana vs Jarrett and Lethal
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Post by Mid-Carder on Jul 31, 2023 15:56:20 GMT -5
I really don't want a show of niche British people. I paid for an AEW show and it's being advertised as one.
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Post by ANuclearError on Jul 31, 2023 16:00:22 GMT -5
That said, if Tony Khan shells out for Like a Prayer, then I've no complaints.
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