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Post by KME on Aug 10, 2023 7:03:23 GMT -5
Why don't they just do the Cole/MJF tag title match at All Out? I agree it'll probably affect their ovations for the main event if it's their second time appearing. I think that'd probably miss the point of what they're doing, they'll go into the Main Event either resenting each other for losing or as Champions, either way it adds a different element to their match, and more intrigue as to whether one of them would actually turn. I think it's a really good move and I love that I'm gonna get to see Aussie Open at Wembley. Seen a few complaints about the build in general but MJF/Cole has outstanding build, Shida/Toni/Saraya/Britt, assuming that's the four, have been involved with each other on and off for the majority of a year, the Darby/Swerve/Fox stuff had enough build from that home invasion segment alone for me, a match like FTR/Bucks just doesn't really need build, Takeshita/Omega assuming we get it will have had plenty in the BCC/Elite feud with the Callis factor too even before they do anything else on the road to Wembley, and Punk/Joe again doesn't really need build, it has two decades worth of it. To be honest I think people put too much on the build anyway, look at Mania 17, main event didn't actually have a great build at all, it mostly involved blind side attacks on each other and...Debra. They saved it with a great sit down promo with JR and an amazing video package but the match basically sold itself. TLC 2's lead up was similar to FTR/Bucks, these guys have had awesome matches before, watch them do it again. Benoit/Angle had basically no build whatsoever, nor did the Battle Royale for obvious reasons, Hardcore Title match was pretty random, as was Test vs Eddie, the Taz/APA vs RTC match etc. Honestly looking back the build was very low key for much of the card but the product was hot, they were coming off two fantastic PPV's and had matches people wanted to see in a huge venue, I remember being so excited for it rather than thinking about anything I've just mentioned above, and I don't think All In's build has been as weak as a lot of that.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Aug 10, 2023 7:20:53 GMT -5
Why don't they just do the Cole/MJF tag title match at All Out? I agree it'll probably affect their ovations for the main event if it's their second time appearing. I think that'd probably miss the point of what they're doing, they'll go into the Main Event either resenting each other for losing or as Champions, either way it adds a different element to their match, and more intrigue as to whether one of them would actually turn. This is a good point, I hadn't thought of it like this
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Aug 10, 2023 7:23:22 GMT -5
I think that'd probably miss the point of what they're doing, they'll go into the Main Event either resenting each other for losing or as Champions, either way it adds a different element to their match, and more intrigue as to whether one of them would actually turn. This is a good point, I hadn't thought of it like this Yeah, because as much as I'd like them to be friends and such, imagine if they lose and it simmers right up to the main event, they try to be polite and then beat the shit out of each other
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Post by KME on Aug 10, 2023 7:32:16 GMT -5
It also really plays into the idea of MJF being genuine, that he's willing to work twice in one night for titles that don't mean anything to him on the biggest night of his career.
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Post by discoelysium on Aug 10, 2023 7:35:38 GMT -5
There's a way you can do this, have Cole minimise his time in the match with the idea that it'll tire our MJF who just wants to fight for his new mate, meaning Cole has the advantage in their match. We're definitely doing the double turn. But ballsy to do that in the main of your biggest show ever. Don't know how well that'll go down.
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Post by lucaslawless on Aug 10, 2023 7:41:23 GMT -5
I get that it makes Zero Hour a must watch but instead we could have had another match on the card. Unless something major happens in the tag match to heighten the main event. But I agree this should have been on the Dynamite before.. or not at all really. Perhaps even the dynamite after IF they stay friends. Though, I sense a hugh angle finishing All In rather than a Hogan/Warrior WM6 show of respect.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Aug 10, 2023 8:04:57 GMT -5
Something's going to happen where Cole or MJF get "hurt" and it leads to a story as part of the main event. I'd rather have a match that advances a story on Zero Hour than some random match.
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Post by lucaslawless on Aug 10, 2023 8:49:57 GMT -5
Perhaps a Truth Magnum and Turbo Floyd run in and beat down Cole and MJF causing the main event to change to Outrunner Vs Outrunner?
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Aug 10, 2023 8:52:59 GMT -5
Look, if this show is so UK centric, there's only one match that needs to happen.
D'Lo Brown vs. Joe E Legend.
We never got the payoff on Celebrity Wrestling on ITV, we can get one 18 years in the making!
Kate Thornton can be guest referee!
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Post by Kalmia on Aug 10, 2023 12:41:13 GMT -5
Yeah, I think it's highly probable that there's a story reason for the Aussie Open vs Cole/MJF match happening on Zero Hour so until that story unfolds, calling it a bad or good idea is a little premature.
I think the card is shaping up to be really good and am glad that most of the matches so far are story heavy.
It does make me wonder what they're going to do for All Out though, lol
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Post by KME on Aug 10, 2023 13:01:44 GMT -5
Genuinely fascinated to see what kind of risks and bumps Darby will take at an event like this...Sting as well for that matter.
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Post by polarbearpete on Aug 10, 2023 13:04:35 GMT -5
What are we thinking is the direction for Hangman? The Bucks are facing FTR, and Omega looks to be facing Takeshita. Where does that leave Hangman? I can’t imagine they’d leave him off the card, or shuffle him into a random multi person match.
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Aug 10, 2023 14:00:37 GMT -5
Seeing Aussie Open at Wembley Stadium after seeing them for years in a tiny comedy club in Manchester that held 150 max, is mind-blowing. Aussie Experience forever. Been way too long since they did wrestling at the frog and bucket. First time I saw Takeshita and knew he was gonna be a star. Sadly, from what I understand the frog and bucket is way too expensive to run, and they hated hosting wrestling haha
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Post by discoelysium on Aug 10, 2023 16:25:02 GMT -5
Been way too long since they did wrestling at the frog and bucket. First time I saw Takeshita and knew he was gonna be a star. Sadly, from what I understand the frog and bucket is way too expensive to run, and they hated hosting wrestling haha Lol I mean I get it, imagine the logistical nightmare of getting the ring in that space!
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Aug 10, 2023 16:33:53 GMT -5
Sadly, from what I understand the frog and bucket is way too expensive to run, and they hated hosting wrestling haha Lol I mean I get it, imagine the logistical nightmare of getting the ring in that space! Gives me nightmares just thinking about it. The Bread Shed gave me enough headaches back when I promoted there, and the less said about Salford Uni the better haha
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Post by Bo Rida on Aug 10, 2023 16:59:55 GMT -5
I think Sammy will join the Callis Family and face Jericho at All In. They've been building that match since Dynamite started (hence Sammy wearing the IC jacket) and the motivation of JAS imploding and Sammy set to become a dad is the ideal time. The heat they'd get together will be insane.
Omgea/Hangman Vs Takeshita/Ospreay would probably work well, especially as it allows Will to take it a bit easier if required. Or split that into two singles matches.
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Post by KME on Aug 10, 2023 17:16:11 GMT -5
I think Sammy will join the Callis Family and face Jericho at All In. They've been building that match since Dynamite started (hence Sammy wearing the IC jacket) and the motivation of JAS imploding and Sammy set to become a dad is the ideal time. The heat they'd get together will be insane. Omgea/Hangman Vs Takeshita/Ospreay would probably work well, especially as it allows Will to take it a bit easier if required. Or split that into two singles matches. Yeah I also wondered if they might do Sammy vs Jericho after last night, would be a bit of a surprise after they teased a Sammy face turn though. Definitely like the idea of that tag match too, perfect way to get Hanger on the card where a matchup for him doesn't feel obvious. Two singles matches would be even better but no idea how it'd be looking with regards to card length in that scenario and the risk of burning the crowd out.
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Aug 10, 2023 17:19:37 GMT -5
I think Sammy will join the Callis Family and face Jericho at All In. They've been building that match since Dynamite started (hence Sammy wearing the IC jacket) and the motivation of JAS imploding and Sammy set to become a dad is the ideal time. The heat they'd get together will be insane. Omgea/Hangman Vs Takeshita/Ospreay would probably work well, especially as it allows Will to take it a bit easier if required. Or split that into two singles matches. Could be onto something here. You just know Jericho will want to be a face for a crowd that big all singing his song.
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Post by KME on Aug 10, 2023 19:01:31 GMT -5
The potential Jericho/Ospreay match would be kind of weird if Jericho is a face too with Ospreay being English. No idea how a crowd that big will really react to Ospreay but it wouldn't be absolutely ideal for Jericho's first match back as a face to be as the crowds second favourite guy in a one on one match.
Really think it should be Guevara/Jericho now with the history they have, and the fact Sammy was the only one to not leave him high and dry yet, and have Ospreay face someone else or do the suggested tag with Takeshita against Kenny and either Hangman or Ibushi if he's actually able to physically go.
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Post by Mr Mario Mario on Aug 10, 2023 19:29:34 GMT -5
Soon as they challenged Aussie Open for the titles at Zero Hour I figured it was gonna be used to build tension for the Main Event Don’t do it Tony. Don’t break my heart and have one turn on each other live. Not unless you want to see a grown man crying on TV whilst his daughter stands beside him looking embarrassed If you’d said to me a few weeks ago I’d be excited to watch an AR Fox match at All In I’d have called you delusional but man I got chills when Sting looked up at that sign because it’s freaking Sting….. Then they announce it’s a coffin match? Forget about it lol People who I need to defo be on the card The Elite so I can sing along to wayward son Jericho so I can sing along to Judas Daniel Garcia so I can do the dance The Acclaimed just because Since looks like we’re not getting wayward son….I need the other 2 Tony
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