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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Aug 11, 2023 11:15:10 GMT -5
The 6 man tag with BCG vs Golden Elite would be fire
As for OC, it makes all the sense in the world for him to defend the belt on an international show. Would be odd booking if he was in a tag match
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Post by KME on Aug 11, 2023 11:15:39 GMT -5
Agree strongly with Kalmia and eJm.
Like, would I prefer a Kenny singles match, sure, would I prefer Mox vs OC, sure, but doing it another way gets a bunch more guys on the card and chances are the matches would be great anyway. Anyone feeling short changed as if it's not a show fitting of its billing when they're getting AEW's hottest storyline in both a tag title match and the main event on the same night, plus an FTR/Bucks rematch, the final chapter of Punk/Joe, and a bunch more... I can't help but feel are being a tad overdramatic.
They're damned if they do damned if they don't when it comes to doing multi mans but you can't just stack the card with dream singles matches either as you'll risk wearing the crowd out.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Aug 11, 2023 11:21:22 GMT -5
Agree strongly with both posts above. Like, would I prefer a Kenny singles match, sure, would I prefer Mox vs OC, sure, but doing it another way gets a bunch more guys on the card and chances are the matches would be great anyway. Anyone feeling short changed as if it's not a show fitting of its billing when they're getting AEW's hottest storyline in both a tag title match and the main event on the same night, plus an FTR/Bucks rematch, the final chapter of Punk/Joe, and a bunch more... I can't help but feel are being a tad overdramatic. Oh yeah, it's definitely a big feeling show despite some of my issues. Bucks vs FTR 3 alone makes this huge imo. I also don't get people thinking the main event isn't big enough. It's the biggest drawing story in AEW and they're doing a big match where no one knows how it will turn out. Also, story aside, the match will rule.
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Post by cornettesracket on Aug 11, 2023 12:05:27 GMT -5
I know it’s the day before the event but this train strike may disrupt people coming into London for the weekend.
edit: is sky news tweets blocked in here ? Anyways that what the tweet said.
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Post by 4real on Aug 11, 2023 13:20:42 GMT -5
I never would have called AR Fox getting a match on this card a month ago.
I’m also going to get to see Sting live in 2023. I hope he plays “Invisible Sun”
Also doubting we are getting OC v Mox now and it will be some sort of tag match. Which most of this card will be now I feel.
Shida v Toni v Britt v Saraya (I assume this is the match we are getting) should be great. Atmosphere for that one will be immense I’m sure.
Keith Lee v Swerve I’ve heard is scheduled for All In 2036
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 11, 2023 13:35:28 GMT -5
I'm ok with a few multi-men matches to get everyone on the card and the crowd should get their money's worth tbh
I get wanting to defend the International Belt on the show, they could still do that, but I get if they want Best Friends to have like a crowning moment as a group on this stage, that's what the group is known best for, if they don't win belts they should be known for the big triumphs like the Parking Lot and Arcade Matches
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Post by kingoftheindies on Aug 11, 2023 13:54:33 GMT -5
I never would have called AR Fox getting a match on this card a month ago. I’m also going to get to see Sting live in 2023. I hope he plays “Invisible Sun” Also doubting we are getting OC v Mox now and it will be some sort of tag match. Which most of this card will be now I feel. Shida v Toni v Britt v Saraya (I assume this is the match we are getting) should be great. Atmosphere for that one will be immense I’m sure. Keith Lee v Swerve I’ve heard is scheduled for All In 2036 This may be unfair, but I cannot help but assume that AEW doesn't trust Keith Lee in a longer match by himself
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Post by clifford on Aug 11, 2023 14:02:40 GMT -5
Listen I'm sorry, but if you can't get your INTERNATIONAL champion defending his title- unanimously seen as the best title reign in AEW history might I add- on the biggest international show of all time, that is a MAJOR f*** up. OC deserves his crowning moment.
And Kenny Omega, finally getting to perform in front of a crowd whose size is worthy of his talents buried in a six man tag? People have been tried in the Hague for less.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Aug 11, 2023 14:16:57 GMT -5
AEW has a tough job with Wembley. Do you load the card with singles matches, knowing full well that means many of your top wrestlers (that people have probably bought tickets to see) won't get a match? Or do you get everyone on the card by doing multi-wrestler matches and have people complain about the lack of singles? I don't think there's a way to win this one unless they do a card that is ten hours long. And then there'd be complaints about that as well, lol You do the first one. I don't understand at what point getting people on a card became a goal fans are invested in. I can't think of any other medium where having people involved to protect their feelings > the product itself. Do a battle royal if you want to get people on the card for the sake of it, but TK should be strong enough to book matches at the top of the card which are significant and have high stakes. If that means people are left out, so be it.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 11, 2023 14:19:40 GMT -5
Listen I'm sorry, but if you can't get your INTERNATIONAL champion defending his title- unanimously seen as the best title reign in AEW history might I add- on the biggest international show of all time, that is a MAJOR f*** up. OC deserves his crowning moment. And Kenny Omega, finally getting to perform in front of a crowd whose size is worthy of his talents buried in a six man tag? People have been tried in the Hague for less. I mean nothing's finalized anyway so I don't think it's worth getting worked up over yet But we have a whole week till Omega likely tells us what he's doing at either show.
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Post by markymark on Aug 11, 2023 14:21:26 GMT -5
I'm ok with a few multi-men matches to get everyone on the card and the crowd should get their money's worth tbh I get wanting to defend the International Belt on the show, they could still do that, but I get if they want Best Friends to have like a crowning moment as a group on this stage, that's what the group is known best for, if they don't win belts they should be known for the big triumphs like the Parking Lot and Arcade Matches
The thing to worry is that TK re-did the All In card last week with a very few exceptions like MJF/Cole which explains why they put the breaks on DO heel turn and their feud with the Elite was quietly dropped, I think FTR was originally going to feud with Aussie Open like it was planned for FD before Davis got hurt.
The original women plan as said in the other thread was Shida vs Toni with Shida winning but I guess they changed it to Dynamite due to the fan outrage Taya/Britt caused
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Post by clifford on Aug 11, 2023 14:27:17 GMT -5
Listen I'm sorry, but if you can't get your INTERNATIONAL champion defending his title- unanimously seen as the best title reign in AEW history might I add- on the biggest international show of all time, that is a MAJOR f*** up. OC deserves his crowning moment. And Kenny Omega, finally getting to perform in front of a crowd whose size is worthy of his talents buried in a six man tag? People have been tried in the Hague for less. I mean nothing's finalized anyway so I don't think it's worth getting worked up over yet But we have a whole week till Omega likely tells us what he's doing at either show. I aint getting worked up but if Uncle Dave is reporting this, you know its at the very least halfway true with his high profile sources. Hopefully they've fed him some 'potential' matches to gauge fan reaction. But really, this card should've been finalised behind the scenes months ago. I don't get the last-minuteness of a lot of this.
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Post by Kalmia on Aug 11, 2023 14:27:51 GMT -5
AEW has a tough job with Wembley. Do you load the card with singles matches, knowing full well that means many of your top wrestlers (that people have probably bought tickets to see) won't get a match? Or do you get everyone on the card by doing multi-wrestler matches and have people complain about the lack of singles? I don't think there's a way to win this one unless they do a card that is ten hours long. And then there'd be complaints about that as well, lol You do the first one. I don't understand at what point getting people on a card became a goal fans are invested in. I can't think of any other medium where having people involved to protect their feelings > the product itself. Do a battle royal if you want to get people on the card for the sake of it, but TK should be strong enough to book matches at the top of the card which are significant and have high stakes. If that means people are left out, so be it. I'd imagine that fans who want to see their favorite wrestler on the card and have bought a ticket to see them would be invested in who's on the card and who isn't.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Aug 11, 2023 14:35:17 GMT -5
With All Out coming a week after, you can either sacrifice one show, or you can thread the line on making both shows mean something. If OC is in a tag match at Wembley against BCC I imagine that's to set up Moxley vs. OC match for Chicago, which will work to advance that story while giving it some meat. It's not as if there's not important matches happening on the card in other places. That doesn't mean a card gets hurt for it; I think fans are getting way too hung up on like the symbolism of a certain kind of spot for "This is a big show so this person needs a singles match" and I'm not really sure booking for symbols is better than managing the dual needs of what the company's got going on.
All Out is a show that's happening, and sacrificing it in full just to overstuff the Wembley card is just a really bad idea.
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Post by KME on Aug 11, 2023 14:37:15 GMT -5
It's not just anyone they're looking to get on the card though, it's guys like Hangman, Eddie Kingston, Jay White and Claudio in the rumoured multi man matches, they're more than worthy of being on a show like this. If it was a multi man match getting lesser talents on the show I'd get it but these are guys with links to big storylines recently and big parts of the company. There's an argument of saying just leave them out for the betterment of the card but there's the matter of keeping the talent happy to think about and not everyone is going to want to see the same guys and the same matches, by including more you're appealing to more people, it's definitely not some kind of attack on the audience by not giving them a string of singles bouts, as much as I'd like a lot of them. A fair amount of the guys have interlinking stories to the point where a multi man match makes sense for them and they never really disappoint with matches like those anyway.
A couple of the rumours could easily end up being wrong too as others have stated.
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Post by Bo Rida on Aug 11, 2023 15:47:12 GMT -5
With All Out coming a week after, you can either sacrifice one show, or you can thread the line on making both shows mean something. If OC is in a tag match at Wembley against BCC I imagine that's to set up Moxley vs. OC match for Chicago, which will work to advance that story while giving it some meat. It's not as if there's not important matches happening on the card in other places. That doesn't mean a card gets hurt for it; I think fans are getting way too hung up on like the symbolism of a certain kind of spot for "This is a big show so this person needs a singles match" and I'm not really sure booking for symbols is better than managing the dual needs of what the company's got going on. All Out is a show that's happening, and sacrificing it in full just to overstuff the Wembley card is just a really bad idea. OC with Best Friends getting revenge on BCC wouldn't be my first choice but would be fine. It's OC being in a team of randoms I have the issue with. Same as Omega/Hangman Vs Takeshita/Ospreay rather than Bullet club being involved for some reason and Takeshita joining his fourth stable this month while his actual stable has yet to get started. Or BCC Vs HoB and Oc defending his title. I'm not completely against using multiman matches to get everyone notable on the card, it's more the random match generator that's being used when there's better options.
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Post by raymondo316 on Aug 11, 2023 15:53:40 GMT -5
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Aug 11, 2023 16:05:25 GMT -5
DAMN YOU OKADA!
…I mean, we all know it was Danielson’s fault BUT STILL!
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Post by Mid-Carder on Aug 11, 2023 16:40:21 GMT -5
Do I really live in a world where Jeff Jarrett has a singles match at AEW's first stadium show and KENNY OMEGA doesn't?
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Post by The Ichi on Aug 11, 2023 16:46:23 GMT -5
...Just do Omega/Takeshita
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