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Post by mrbananagrabber on Apr 7, 2023 14:21:15 GMT -5
HOW DO YOU JUST ACCIDENTALLY USE AUSCHWITZ-BIRKENAU IMAGERY WHAT f***ING STOCK FOOTAGE LIBRARY IS THIS Because WWE is too Goddamn lazy to do their research before putting things out there. But still, it astounds me how this even got past anyone. Nah. Of all the things you can say about WWE, their production is 99% of the time world class. This is a rare slip up.
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Post by poodoojenkins on Apr 7, 2023 14:28:55 GMT -5
I know I'm just going to be screaming into the void here, but as someone who has worked with stock footage a fair bit in my life, you would actually be amazed at how disorganized it can be. Many times, things ARE in fact just labeled like "Prison 7" or "Little Girl A-23" that should be FAR more specific.
And as far as some folks are saying about "do your research" and the like...I hate to break it to you, but things like this happen all the time, and it's rarely caught by anyone at home. This was just a rare case of it actually being noticed. And at any rate, nobody is doing thorough research on a 2 second clip of stock footage, get real.
There is every possibility that this was an honest mistake.
EDIT: Also, I can't help but LOL at the overly dramatic title and opening post of this thread. The worst possible screwup? Really? The same company that has literally wound up with dozens and dozens of dead employees and assaults and shit on their watch, and THIS is what you consider a big screwup? Come on, let's get a little perspective here.
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Post by Mike Strike on Apr 7, 2023 14:29:56 GMT -5
Hearing this reminded me of when they were gonna call WALTER "Gunther Stark". WWE never learns, do they? I'm starting to think the Vince of today would've loved the Heidenreich pitch.
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Post by Nosnorb on Apr 7, 2023 14:32:50 GMT -5
Hearing this reminded me of when they were gonna call WALTER "Gunther Stark". WWE never learns, do they? I'm starting to think the Vince of today would've loved the Heidenreich pitch. I can just imagine him saying "SUCH GOOD SHIT PAL!" after the writer had stopped goosestepping.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2023 14:38:29 GMT -5
Someone probably did a search for stock footage of prisons and came across this. Some of the clickbait links to the story had a picture of the front entrance with the infamous “Arbeit Macht Frei” sign, leading you to believe that was the footage that was used. I only knew the image used was from Auschwitz given that I’m Jewish and a WWII buff. I see this as being like the Jordan Myles T-shirt: a royal screw-up, but done out of ignorance and lack of familiarity rather than deliberate prejudice. Yeah im a 38 year old Christian American and wouldn't know it was footage from that by looking at it..so I agree with the ignorance not intent statement
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2023 14:41:21 GMT -5
I know I'm just going to be screaming into the void here, but as someone who has worked with stock footage a fair bit in my life, you would actually be amazed at how disorganized it can be. Many times, things ARE in fact just labeled like "Prison 7" or "Little Girl A-23" that should be FAR more specific. And as far as some folks are saying about "do your research" and the like...I hate to break it to you, but things like this happen all the time, and it's rarely caught by anyone at home. This was just a rare case of it actually being noticed. And at any rate, nobody is doing thorough research on a 2 second clip of stock footage, get real. There is every possibility that this was an honest mistake. EDIT: Also, I can't help but LOL at the overly dramatic title and opening post of this thread. The worst possible screwup? Really? The same company that has literally wound up with dozens and dozens of dead employees and assaults and shit on their watch, and THIS is what you consider a big screwup? Come on, let's get a little perspective here. It's been this way in this section for a long time unfortunately
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Post by poodoojenkins on Apr 7, 2023 14:51:00 GMT -5
I know I'm just going to be screaming into the void here, but as someone who has worked with stock footage a fair bit in my life, you would actually be amazed at how disorganized it can be. Many times, things ARE in fact just labeled like "Prison 7" or "Little Girl A-23" that should be FAR more specific. And as far as some folks are saying about "do your research" and the like...I hate to break it to you, but things like this happen all the time, and it's rarely caught by anyone at home. This was just a rare case of it actually being noticed. And at any rate, nobody is doing thorough research on a 2 second clip of stock footage, get real. There is every possibility that this was an honest mistake. EDIT: Also, I can't help but LOL at the overly dramatic title and opening post of this thread. The worst possible screwup? Really? The same company that has literally wound up with dozens and dozens of dead employees and assaults and shit on their watch, and THIS is what you consider a big screwup? Come on, let's get a little perspective here. It's been this way in this section for a long time unfortunately I get the want of people to dunk on WWE. I really do. I'm also displeased with the company on a multitude of levels, from the on-screen product to the backstage politics and beyond. But claiming an incredibly short piece of stock footage is some HUGE, UNFORGIVABLE MISTAKE while the company is literally being helmed by someone who is ACTIVELY BEING INVESTIGATED FOR PAYING OFF WOMEN FOR MULTIPLE SEXUAL ASSAULTS is about the most tone deaf, ridiculous thing I can imagine.
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Post by bob on Apr 7, 2023 14:55:40 GMT -5
WWE's reaction:
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Post by bob on Apr 7, 2023 15:00:24 GMT -5
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Post by mc74 on Apr 7, 2023 15:03:59 GMT -5
Because WWE is too Goddamn lazy to do their research before putting things out there. But still, it astounds me how this even got past anyone. Nah. Of all the things you can say about WWE, their production is 99% of the time world class. This is a rare slip up. Fair point. Thinking back on it, it could've easily been chalked up to a poorly-labeled roll, a lack of experience, or a combination of both that led to it being aired by mistake.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2023 15:08:08 GMT -5
Nah. Of all the things you can say about WWE, their production is 99% of the time world class. This is a rare slip up. Fair point. Thinking back on it, it could've easily been chalked up to a poorly-labeled roll, a lack of experience, or a combination of both that led to it being aired by mistake. Yeah I am serious when I say I would have no way of knowing this was auswitz by just looking at it... Definitely doesn't look like American jails or prisons (Dom wouldn't have went to prison anyway/Prison is only for felonies/he would be in County) but I would have no way of knowing it was a concentration camp
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Post by darbus alan on Apr 7, 2023 15:09:53 GMT -5
Not knowing that looks like a concentration camp says more about the sad state of Holocaust education in this country than anything.
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Post by Chiral on Apr 7, 2023 15:10:52 GMT -5
The concept of Dom's entrance was amazing how do you accidentally put Auschwitz footage in
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Apr 7, 2023 15:10:59 GMT -5
I know I'm just going to be screaming into the void here, but as someone who has worked with stock footage a fair bit in my life, you would actually be amazed at how disorganized it can be. Many times, things ARE in fact just labeled like "Prison 7" or "Little Girl A-23" that should be FAR more specific. And as far as some folks are saying about "do your research" and the like...I hate to break it to you, but things like this happen all the time, and it's rarely caught by anyone at home. This was just a rare case of it actually being noticed. And at any rate, nobody is doing thorough research on a 2 second clip of stock footage, get real. There is every possibility that this was an honest mistake. EDIT: Also, I can't help but LOL at the overly dramatic title and opening post of this thread. The worst possible screwup? Really? The same company that has literally wound up with dozens and dozens of dead employees and assaults and shit on their watch, and THIS is what you consider a big screwup? Come on, let's get a little perspective here. I mean if you're Jewish, this is a pretty horrific screwup independent of the cause.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2023 15:11:45 GMT -5
I'm not of Jewish faith or heritage, and therefore my opinion would obviously carry less weight, and I realize that.
That being said: Was this an obvious screw up caused by carelessness? Yes. Are they doing the right thing by jumping in front of it and putting out the PR machine to apologize for it? Yes. Do I think someone in the WWE production crew is such an antisemitic that they snuck Auschwitz footage into, of all things, a Dominik Mysterio match? No.
WWE's doing what they need to do and they're dealing with. If only they were this aggressive regarding how bad being in bed with the Saudi government makes them look.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Apr 7, 2023 15:13:27 GMT -5
Not knowing that looks like a concentration camp says more about the sad state of Holocaust education in this country than anything. It also says a lot about how cost cutting can affect companies because you absolutely know that there was a bigger team doing this stuff before 2020 because we didn’t hear about anything like that going. And now in the space of a year, WALTER was almost renamed to an actual Nazi general and Dominic Mysterio was associated with goddamn Auschwitz. That doesn’t happen if you have a substantial team working with this stuff to double and triple check.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2023 15:14:26 GMT -5
I know I'm just going to be screaming into the void here, but as someone who has worked with stock footage a fair bit in my life, you would actually be amazed at how disorganized it can be. Many times, things ARE in fact just labeled like "Prison 7" or "Little Girl A-23" that should be FAR more specific. And as far as some folks are saying about "do your research" and the like...I hate to break it to you, but things like this happen all the time, and it's rarely caught by anyone at home. This was just a rare case of it actually being noticed. And at any rate, nobody is doing thorough research on a 2 second clip of stock footage, get real. There is every possibility that this was an honest mistake. EDIT: Also, I can't help but LOL at the overly dramatic title and opening post of this thread. The worst possible screwup? Really? The same company that has literally wound up with dozens and dozens of dead employees and assaults and shit on their watch, and THIS is what you consider a big screwup? Come on, let's get a little perspective here. I mean if you're Jewish, this is a pretty horrific screwup independent of the cause. Oh i absolutely agree with this too I just find it very hard to prove intent here especially with it being a 2 second clip in a Dom promo...I am absolutely not playing down the horrors the Jewish community has faced.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Apr 7, 2023 15:17:21 GMT -5
But claiming an incredibly short piece of stock footage is some HUGE, UNFORGIVABLE MISTAKE while the company is literally being helmed by someone who is ACTIVELY BEING INVESTIGATED FOR PAYING OFF WOMEN FOR MULTIPLE SEXUAL ASSAULTS is about the most tone deaf, ridiculous thing I can imagine. Nobody has claimed that though? It's a giant sloppy careless f***-up and I don't think anyone is looking at it as anything beyond a giant lsoppy careless f***-up.
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Post by Nosnorb on Apr 7, 2023 15:18:56 GMT -5
Not knowing that looks like a concentration camp says more about the sad state of Holocaust education in this country than anything. It also says a lot about how cost cutting can affect companies because you absolutely know that there was a bigger team doing this stuff before 2020 because we didn’t hear about anything like that going. And now in the space of a year, WALTER was almost renamed to an actual Nazi general and Dominic Mysterio was associated with goddamn Auschwitz. That doesn’t happen if you have a substantial team working with this stuff to double and triple check. Ludwig Kaiser was also almost given the same name as a Nazi too.
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Post by poodoojenkins on Apr 7, 2023 15:19:18 GMT -5
But claiming an incredibly short piece of stock footage is some HUGE, UNFORGIVABLE MISTAKE while the company is literally being helmed by someone who is ACTIVELY BEING INVESTIGATED FOR PAYING OFF WOMEN FOR MULTIPLE SEXUAL ASSAULTS is about the most tone deaf, ridiculous thing I can imagine. Nobody has claimed that though? It's a giant sloppy careless f***-up and I don't think anyone is looking at it as anything beyond a giant lsoppy careless f***-up. You're arguing this in a thread that literally calls it the "Worst Possible Mistake" right in the damn title lol.
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