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Post by mistery on May 6, 2023 11:36:40 GMT -5
They don't treat literally anyone as a threat towards Bianca. That's the problem. Hell. Bianca is already treating Iyo like a minor nuisance at best. Which harms Iyo's image. And this is why WWE absolutely fails at creating new stars. Bianca is basically Female Cena except a thousand times more harmful to the division. Its why that once Bianca drops the title, she needs a VERY long stay outside of the title picture. And to put over other women besides (inevitably) Charlotte. Cena at least got his ass kicked constantly in the leadup to the match(it's where the "Can John Cena overcome the odds" became a thing after all) Bianca basically has all the negative traits of Cena/Hogan, but none of the positives. Like freaking Rhea is doing a better job of making Zelina a credible threat than Bianca has with literally anyone. Bianca just doesn't like making others look like threats to her. At all. And its either a decision she's making on her own, or the agents are telling her to go out there and make the rest of the women look like absolute garbage in the ring. And I doubt someone like Tyson Kidd is telling her backstage that she has to make everyone else look terrible. Bianca is just an atrocious seller and doesn't know how to put others over. The sooner she loses the title, the sooner she can take a step back and relearn some of the basics apparently, because her time at the top has severely exposed her as a performer. The kicker is this is all during AAPI month which WWE has been pushing pretty heavily so far. WWE is showing its appreciation for AAPI month by making all of their AAPI talent...look like absolute losers (Iyo, Dakota) or keeping them off of TV entirely (Asuka) due to fear of the audience siding with her instead of Bianca.
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Post by SAJ Forth on May 6, 2023 12:40:39 GMT -5
Ben off for a time, but back
Riddle, Zayn and Owens, Rhodes, Ripley, Theory, Seth, Belair, Bad Bunny
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Post by chronocross on May 6, 2023 13:13:18 GMT -5
My predictions:
Lesnar Bad Bunny Seth, probably by DQ Usos/Solo get the win when Solo gets the pin for his team Theory, Ripley and Bianca all retain their titles in their respective matches
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Post by theironyuppie on May 6, 2023 13:15:45 GMT -5
WWE's been posting some pretty nice vlogs to hype up the show, including Rhea talking up Priest's match tonight:
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on May 6, 2023 13:22:40 GMT -5
The kicker is this is all during AAPI month which WWE has been pushing pretty heavily so far. WWE is showing its appreciation for AAPI month by making all of their AAPI talent...look like absolute losers (Iyo, Dakota) or keeping them off of TV entirely (Asuka) due to fear of the audience siding with her instead of Bianca. Good lord. Thatβs a reach and a half to continue the Bianca hate train.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Weather Machine on May 6, 2023 13:24:41 GMT -5
Unironically looking forward to Bad Bunny vs. Damian Priest the most out of anything tonight. Damian has been amazing in the build to this. Like I've thought about bumping the DAMIAN IS THE GUY thread almost weekly, especially when he did that whole promo at Bad Bunny in Spanish.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on May 6, 2023 13:31:03 GMT -5
Unironically looking forward to Bad Bunny vs. Damian Priest the most out of anything tonight. Damian has been amazing in the build to this. Like I've thought about bumping the DAMIAN IS THE GUY thread almost weekly, especially when he did that whole promo at Bad Bunny in Spanish. Itβs all the more insane they couldnβt find ANYTHING for Damian at Mania.
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Post by theironyuppie on May 6, 2023 13:37:25 GMT -5
Theyβve done Iyo so dirty in the build to this match. They havenβt even tried to present her as being a credible threat to Bianca. They don't treat literally anyone as a threat towards Bianca. That's the problem. Hell. Bianca is already treating Iyo like a minor nuisance at best. Which harms Iyo's image. And this is why WWE absolutely fails at creating new stars. Bianca is basically Female Cena except a thousand times more harmful to the division. Its why that once Bianca drops the title, she needs a VERY long stay outside of the title picture. And to put over other women besides (inevitably) Charlotte.
I don't think they'd keep her out of the title picture for long even when she does lose the title, and it's quite likely even that loss will be heavily protected. Though the thing for me is that Bianca matches tend to follow a pretty defined formula by now where Bianca has to get all her moves in, and usually counters what her opponents do or else doesn't sell much for them. The focus is on her getting the shine because that's what her fans expect and what defines the EST character, as limited as it is. It's how her TV matches go, it's how her house show matches go, and it's usually effective enough for live crowds even if it makes her matches blur together. It'd be nice if tonight deviates a little from that formula even if she retains, but it is what it is.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on May 6, 2023 14:00:49 GMT -5
Unironically looking forward to Bad Bunny vs. Damian Priest the most out of anything tonight. Damian has been amazing in the build to this. Like I've thought about bumping the DAMIAN IS THE GUY thread almost weekly, especially when he did that whole promo at Bad Bunny in Spanish.Β Iβm glad that Judgement Day has actually flipped around to be the thing that revitalized literally every person in the group. Rhea before joining was in a nothing tag team with Liv, Finn was just kinda showing up here and there but nothing of importance, Dominik was on the verge of being sent to Orlando and Priest was doing the corny Dr Jekyll Mr Hyde shit.
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Post by XIII on May 6, 2023 14:17:34 GMT -5
Iβm loving all of these promos being done in Spanish and then being summarized quickly in English. Itβs fun switching my mind between the two and is much more realistic than English everywhere, pals.
Bad Bunny vs. Priest has to be the main event. The crowd going to go ballistic for that match.
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Post by mistery on May 6, 2023 14:21:40 GMT -5
They don't treat literally anyone as a threat towards Bianca. That's the problem. Hell. Bianca is already treating Iyo like a minor nuisance at best. Which harms Iyo's image. And this is why WWE absolutely fails at creating new stars. Bianca is basically Female Cena except a thousand times more harmful to the division. Its why that once Bianca drops the title, she needs a VERY long stay outside of the title picture. And to put over other women besides (inevitably) Charlotte.
I don't think they'd keep her out of the title picture for long even when she does lose the title, and it's quite likely even that loss will be heavily protected. Though the thing for me is that Bianca matches tend to follow a pretty defined formula by now where Bianca has to get all her moves in, and usually counters what her opponents do or else doesn't sell much for them. The focus is on her getting the shine because that's what her fans expect and what defines the EST character, as limited as it is. It's how her TV matches go, it's how her house show matches go, and it's usually effective enough for live crowds even if it makes her matches blur together. It'd be nice if tonight deviates a little from that formula even if she retains, but it is what it is.
I think they'll take her out of the title picture for awhile after she gets a rematch and loses. Because I feel like they are going to build up either her or Rhea to face the other for their title at Wrestlemania next year. And that would require one of them to drop the title. And of the group, Bianca is way more likely to drop hers, because she's almost at 400 days already and fatigue has set in for her reign. It also sets off red flags that they moved a large chunk of the super talented women to Smackdown, most of whom Bianca has already beaten. Which tells me that they don't plan to drag her reign out for much longer. Either they have Charlotte kill it and then put the title on a woman they want to establish on SD, or Bianca loses it to another woman, who then in turn loses it to Charlotte probably. But regardless, we are at the point where absolutely none of Bianca's feuds are interesting and it reflects in the engagement metrics as well (her stuff is routinely some of the lowest viewed stuff uploaded). It's been 400 days of her doing the same stupid stuff every week, and it's blatantly clear that WWE has nothing left they can do with her. The only reason she has the title now is so they can break a record with her. Otherwise she could easily be taken out of the title picture and not be harmed at all with how she's currently booked. And they could use the title to build up more stars.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on May 6, 2023 14:41:54 GMT -5
Smackdown with a bunch of random midcard matches had an even better atmosphere than NYR 05 so tonight with bigger matches should be hotter still. Brock/Cody is definitely ending in a way that'll keep it going until next month. The fact it's a regular match makes me think they'll do a wild brawl/DQ/ref stoppage type thing then do no holds barred at the next PPV. If you're ever going to allow blood then this is a match/feud that could use it. It would almost seem sacrilegious to have a big PPV in Puerto Rico without any foreheads being scarred by blading. Cody also needs a kayfabe reason not to be in the new world title picture and him being busy with Brock is a way to do that. Ideally some kind of screwy finish tonight, Cody then beats Brock at Night of Champions, then wins MITB and announces he's facing Roman at Summerslam. Having him challenge for the new title would make no sense after being screwed at Mania and all his talk about winning the WWE title specifically. Unironically looking forward to Bad Bunny vs. Damian Priest the most out of anything tonight. Damian has been amazing in the build to this. Like I've thought about bumping the DAMIAN IS THE GUY thread almost weekly, especially when he did that whole promo at Bad Bunny in Spanish. Iβm glad that Judgement Day has actually flipped around to be the thing that revitalized literally every person in the group. Rhea before joining was in a nothing tag team with Liv, Finn was just kinda showing up here and there but nothing of importance, Dominik was on the verge of being sent to Orlando and Priest was doing the corny Dr Jekyll Mr Hyde shit. They've become one of my favorite groups of recent times. I love that they all seem equal and there isn't a clear leader. When they cut group promos everyone gets their shine. Right now it's Priest because he's likely main eventing tonight but who gets the most focus can change from week to week. I can't remember many stables with a dynamic like this. Normally you have a clear number one and/or at least one or two members who are a level below the rest.
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Post by coleslaw on May 6, 2023 15:41:08 GMT -5
God I am so on the OMOS TRAIN LET'S GOOOOOOOO BABY
LOCOMOSTION
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Post by XIII on May 6, 2023 15:45:52 GMT -5
God I am so on the OMOS TRAIN LET'S GOOOOOOOO BABY LOCOMOSTION OMOSAPIENS RISE!
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Post by stevescorpio on May 6, 2023 15:55:07 GMT -5
Hopefully, I can stay up for the whole thing.
Brock Bunny Riddle, Owens & Zayn Bianca (though I would prefer Iyo) Rhea Theory Rollins
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on May 6, 2023 16:00:16 GMT -5
God I am so on the OMOS TRAIN LET'S GOOOOOOOO BABY LOCOMOSTION OMOSAPIENS RISE! Seth "Freakin'" Rollins is going to get his "freakin'" ass kicked.
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Post by yokohamacpfc on May 6, 2023 16:47:11 GMT -5
Bianca will win but not cleanly, either a dusty finish and/or Damage CTRL interference backfiring so they can do this match again at SS or MiTB. She has to lose the title eventually, Sky is a good choice but I just don't see it happening at Backlash, especially in front of a crowd that is going to be extremely loud for each babyface.
Cody v Brock is either going to be a repeat of Extreme Rules 2012 with Cody putting himself back in the title hunt or a complete squash with the ref having to declare Brock the winner by stoppage sending Cody into a redemption/self-discovery arc which could introduce WWE audiences to the Codyverse. Either way the result has fascinating implications for the storylines for the rest of the summer.
Pretty much a one-match card other than that though. It's been put together with the local territory more in mind than the audience at home (not that there's anything wrong with that before some sensitive souls get angry).
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2023 17:03:48 GMT -5
IF one had to pick which title had even a remote chance of changing hands tonight then it is absoloutley Bianca dropping it.
And I f***ing DARE YOU WWE TO GIVE IYO THE TITLE TONIGHT! come on do it cowards!
But I am also resigned to my fate of hoping against hope because WWE has this stupid meaningless obsession with stats and records in a company with pre-determined outcomes and considering they are touting her breaking Becky's record if she retains so this is literally pushing the boulder up an incline and it just keeps rolling back ontop of me.
BUT with all that said having IYO win is just a better overall move because not only does it freshen the title scene right up but also there is alot more story to play with.
IYO wins and it changes the whole power structure of Dmg Cntrl and you really level up Bayleys jealousy because remember she gave up her chance which allowed IYO this chance.
Also IYO stopping Bianca at the preverbial final hour from achieving being the longEST womens title reign can be something that forever bothers Bianca giving her some much needed character growth (maybe) and making her unable to double down on her EST schtick atleast for the near future and you can have her follow up feuds hold that over her head and hell you can use it to turn her heel if you so wanted to.
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Post by mj0mn0m on May 6, 2023 17:29:57 GMT -5
Absolutely lit Saturday with my BFF gals. π Love it that they appreciate my silly fandom for wrestling. π #surpriseguests #gurlsthatpaymydrinks #grateful > Let's f***ing go, Liv! β¨π₯
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Post by Gecko on May 6, 2023 17:37:56 GMT -5
So they'll probably split up next week then?
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