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Post by wildojinx on Apr 25, 2023 15:05:26 GMT -5
Cheri Oteri was a huge star when she was on SNL and responsible for several memorable main characters. Yet, after SNL, while she still has steady work, she didnt become a huge household name like say Will Ferrell (who she did several sketches with). Looking at her wikipedia page, I see a lot of obscure movies and small roles in tv shows (her biggest post SNL tv show success was as a VA on Puppy Dog Pals, which she did 62 eps of). So why didnt she achieve success?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 25, 2023 15:08:33 GMT -5
For the same reason Molly Shannon never quite hit the level people expected of her: She was very solid piece of a very strong ensemble cast, but on her own/outside the SNL environment, just wasn't *quite* talented enough to do more.
While we're talking about that era and the strong female cast, Ana Gasteyer was better than both of 'em and she never found anything substantial post SNL
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 25, 2023 15:10:09 GMT -5
Probably just comes down to the "it" factor and not finding that true breakout role. SNL is a very specific type of show, and has produced a lot of stars, but it's also had many, many more people who've just gone on to do very little.
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Post by tirtefaa on Apr 25, 2023 15:30:45 GMT -5
You look at anyone from the 1996 cast, and there's a lot of "should have been bigger" members;
Jim Breuer Darryl Hammond Chris Kattan Michael McKinney Cheri O'Teri Molly Shannon Nancy Walls
Even Norm Macdonald I assumed was going to get a gig similar to Dennis Miller. Even when I was 11, this was the highlight of the show for me.
Of all the people who were on the show at the time, I didn't think that Will Ferrell would be the breakout star. Not only did he not have any major original characters outside of the Spartan Cheerleaders and the Roxbury Guys, and in both situations he was outclassed by his co-star.
While Ferrell would hit his stride a little better in the subsequent season, and even moreso by 1998...I never understood why he was always given these big opportunities, while other far more talented people could have done a better job. He appeared in just about every sketch in one form or another, and again he was largely outclassed by everyone around him.
Years later, it made sense. Adam McKay was the head writer and they were BFFs for years, and after hearing a couple other cast members speak out against McKay (without directly naming him), things began to line up better.
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Post by salz4life on Apr 25, 2023 15:51:11 GMT -5
For the same reason Molly Shannon never quite hit the level people expected of her: She was very solid piece of a very strong ensemble cast, but on her own/outside the SNL environment, just wasn't *quite* talented enough to do more. While we're talking about that era and the strong female cast, Ana Gasteyer was better than both of 'em and she never found anything substantial post SNL I'm trying to remember the last time I saw Ana Gasteyer after SNL and before the show American Auto on NBC.
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Post by salz4life on Apr 25, 2023 15:53:46 GMT -5
You look at anyone from the 1996 cast, and there's a lot of "should have been bigger" members; Jim Breuer Darryl Hammond Chris Kattan Michael McKinney Cheri O'Teri Molly Shannon Nancy Walls Even Norm Macdonald I assumed was going to get a gig similar to Dennis Miller. Even when I was 11, this was the highlight of the show for me. Of all the people who were on the show at the time, I didn't think that Will Ferrell would be the breakout star. Not only did he not have any major original characters outside of the Spartan Cheerleaders and the Roxbury Guys, and in both situations he was outclassed by his co-star. While Ferrell would hit his stride a little better in the subsequent season, and even moreso by 1998...I never understood why he was always given these big opportunities, while other far more talented people could have done a better job. He appeared in just about every sketch in one form or another, and again he was largely outclassed by everyone around him. Years later, it made sense. Adam McKay was the head writer and they were BFFs for years, and after hearing a couple other cast members speak out against McKay (without directly naming him), things began to line up better. I remember thinking between Chris Kattan and Will Ferrell, I thought Kattan had the bigger chance at post SNL success. It's no wonder I would never make it in Talent management. LOL
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Post by tirtefaa on Apr 25, 2023 16:04:13 GMT -5
I remember thinking between Chris Kattan and Will Ferrell, I thought Kattan had the bigger chance at post SNL success. It's no wonder I would never make it in Talent management. LOL Yeah, Kattan was very loose on camera and pretty comfortable with whatever he did. The same I could say for Breuer at the time, I know Goat Boy was polarizing, but even in situations where a sketch died a horrible death, both guys always kept it together and never reacted. Ferrell was just weird. He always had some weird stiffness to his performance, like he was in a choir recital or something. He was also notorious for clearly reading the cue cards instead of seeming more engaged in the sketch. I'm not going to say he wasn't funny at times, but compared to everyone else who got their reactions down to a T, Ferrel was the worst of the bunch.
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Post by KingPooper on Apr 25, 2023 16:41:47 GMT -5
Elf is the only thing I can stand Will in.
I was thinking how much could Adam and Will be BBFs... oh they did seven movies together in a row... got it.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 25, 2023 16:58:18 GMT -5
You look at anyone from the 1996 cast, and there's a lot of "should have been bigger" members; Jim Breuer Darryl Hammond Chris Kattan Michael McKinney Cheri O'Teri Molly Shannon Nancy Walls Even Norm Macdonald I assumed was going to get a gig similar to Dennis Miller. Even when I was 11, this was the highlight of the show for me. Of all the people who were on the show at the time, I didn't think that Will Ferrell would be the breakout star. Not only did he not have any major original characters outside of the Spartan Cheerleaders and the Roxbury Guys, and in both situations he was outclassed by his co-star. While Ferrell would hit his stride a little better in the subsequent season, and even moreso by 1998...I never understood why he was always given these big opportunities, while other far more talented people could have done a better job. He appeared in just about every sketch in one form or another, and again he was largely outclassed by everyone around him. Years later, it made sense. Adam McKay was the head writer and they were BFFs for years, and after hearing a couple other cast members speak out against McKay (without directly naming him), things began to line up better. I remember thinking between Chris Kattan and Will Ferrell, I thought Kattan had the bigger chance at post SNL success. It's no wonder I would never make it in Talent management. LOL Kattan was probably derailed by his broken neck (suffered in a sketch in 02ish) that he didn't acknowledge until years later
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Post by BorneAgain on Apr 25, 2023 17:00:27 GMT -5
Norm probably could have big bigger, but his interest was more in standup than acting most of the time, and didn't really care about projects that didn't gel with his sense of humor or allow him to hang out with his friends.
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Post by The Warthog on Apr 25, 2023 18:53:42 GMT -5
For the same reason Molly Shannon never quite hit the level people expected of her: She was very solid piece of a very strong ensemble cast, but on her own/outside the SNL environment, just wasn't *quite* talented enough to do more. While we're talking about that era and the strong female cast, Ana Gasteyer was better than both of 'em and she never found anything substantial post SNL Ana Gasteyer is currently in "American Auto",which may or may not get a 3rd season.
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Post by schma on Apr 25, 2023 20:52:27 GMT -5
Elf is the only thing I can stand Will in. I was thinking how much could Adam and Will be BBFs... oh they did seven movies together in a row... got it. That makes more sense. I remember for the longest time it felt like Will Ferrell was playing the exact same character in each of his movies. If he had the same writer each time, that's probably why.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 25, 2023 21:43:25 GMT -5
Tim Meadows has had a good career and has always been working since SNL, but he's someone who I always thought should have been a slightly bigger star
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Post by agent817 on Apr 25, 2023 21:54:18 GMT -5
For the same reason Molly Shannon never quite hit the level people expected of her: She was very solid piece of a very strong ensemble cast, but on her own/outside the SNL environment, just wasn't *quite* talented enough to do more. While we're talking about that era and the strong female cast, Ana Gasteyer was better than both of 'em and she never found anything substantial post SNL Now that I think about it, but was "Superstar" a flop in theaters back then? I remember even as far back as when I was in middle school, some girls I knew actually did the "Superstar" pose complete with saying the word. I am aware that "Superstar" was an SNL skit that was adapted into a film, but still.
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Post by poodoojenkins on Apr 26, 2023 6:55:13 GMT -5
For the same reason Molly Shannon never quite hit the level people expected of her: She was very solid piece of a very strong ensemble cast, but on her own/outside the SNL environment, just wasn't *quite* talented enough to do more. While we're talking about that era and the strong female cast, Ana Gasteyer was better than both of 'em and she never found anything substantial post SNL Now that I think about it, but was "Superstar" a flop in theaters back then? I remember even as far back as when I was in middle school, some girls I knew actually did the "Superstar" pose complete with saying the word. I am aware that "Superstar" was an SNL skit that was adapted into a film, but still. Yeah, it bombed hard in theaters and critics hated it, too. I think it really found it's audience when it hit video and HBO. I remember seeing it that way, and it being quoted a lot.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 26, 2023 7:01:48 GMT -5
For the same reason Molly Shannon never quite hit the level people expected of her: She was very solid piece of a very strong ensemble cast, but on her own/outside the SNL environment, just wasn't *quite* talented enough to do more. While we're talking about that era and the strong female cast, Ana Gasteyer was better than both of 'em and she never found anything substantial post SNL Now that I think about it, but was "Superstar" a flop in theaters back then? I remember even as far back as when I was in middle school, some girls I knew actually did the "Superstar" pose complete with saying the word. I am aware that "Superstar" was an SNL skit that was adapted into a film, but still. The problem is that the Mary Katherine Gallagher skits were a one note joke that someone thought could be stretched out into a 90 min movie. It wasn't the only one (see: Ladies Man, and Night At The Roxbury) To this day, I am absolutely stunned we never got a Spartan Cheerleader movie
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Apr 26, 2023 7:15:01 GMT -5
Tim Meadows has had a good career and has always been working since SNL, but he's someone who I always thought should have been a slightly bigger star He was in Mean Girls, that alone makes him a big star. Honestly, after Ladies Man flopped seems like Meadows said "f*** trying to be a leading man, I'll go the supporting road", and he's had a great career because of it. His role in Mean Girls, appearances on Brooklyn Nine Nine, Walk Hard, and a long recurring role in The Goldbergs. Dude's had a better career just focusing on supporting roles. I don't think he gets a cameo in The Mandalorian if he didn't focus on being a supporting guy. Now that I think about it, but was "Superstar" a flop in theaters back then? I remember even as far back as when I was in middle school, some girls I knew actually did the "Superstar" pose complete with saying the word. I am aware that "Superstar" was an SNL skit that was adapted into a film, but still. The problem is that the Mary Katherine Gallagher skits were a one note joke that someone thought could be stretched out into a 90 min movie. It wasn't the only one (see: Ladies Man, and Night At The Roxbury) To this day, I am absolutely stunned we never got a Spartan Cheerleader movie I liked A Night at the Roxbury.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 26, 2023 7:41:13 GMT -5
Tim Meadows has had a good career and has always been working since SNL, but he's someone who I always thought should have been a slightly bigger star He was in Mean Girls, that alone makes him a big star. Honestly, after Ladies Man flopped seems like Meadows said "f*** trying to be a leading man, I'll go the supporting road", and he's had a great career because of it. His role in Mean Girls, appearances on Brooklyn Nine Nine, Walk Hard, and a long recurring role in The Goldbergs. Dude's had a better career just focusing on supporting roles. I don't think he gets a cameo in The Mandalorian if he didn't focus on being a supporting guy. The problem is that the Mary Katherine Gallagher skits were a one note joke that someone thought could be stretched out into a 90 min movie. It wasn't the only one (see: Ladies Man, and Night At The Roxbury) To this day, I am absolutely stunned we never got a Spartan Cheerleader movie I liked A Night at the Roxbury. Oh, I did too. But it flopped because most people didn't wanna see a Ladies Man skit for 90 min
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Post by salz4life on Apr 26, 2023 8:30:26 GMT -5
To this day, I am absolutely stunned we never got a Spartan Cheerleader movie Agreed.... everybody I knew loved this sketch back in the day.
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Post by salz4life on Apr 26, 2023 8:31:09 GMT -5
Tim Meadows has had a good career and has always been working since SNL, but he's someone who I always thought should have been a slightly bigger star He was in Mean Girls, that alone makes him a big star. Honestly, after Ladies Man flopped seems like Meadows said "f*** trying to be a leading man, I'll go the supporting road", and he's had a great career because of it. His role in Mean Girls, appearances on Brooklyn Nine Nine, Walk Hard, and a long recurring role in The Goldbergs. Dude's had a better career just focusing on supporting roles. I don't think he gets a cameo in The Mandalorian if he didn't focus on being a supporting guy. The problem is that the Mary Katherine Gallagher skits were a one note joke that someone thought could be stretched out into a 90 min movie. It wasn't the only one (see: Ladies Man, and Night At The Roxbury) To this day, I am absolutely stunned we never got a Spartan Cheerleader movie I liked A Night at the Roxbury. A Night at The Roxbury was very quotable. To this day, I know most of the movie by heart. LOL
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