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Post by XIII on Apr 29, 2023 15:24:17 GMT -5
Since this seems to be actually happening who even goes over with Punk aside from Jericho and his flunkies?
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Post by CeilingFan on Apr 29, 2023 16:08:27 GMT -5
Since this seems to be actually happening who even goes over with Punk aside from Jericho and his flunkies? FTR. House Of Black. Wardlow. ThunderRosa. Hobbs. Danhausen. The Firm. Hook. Abadon. Miro. And at least 20 others.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 29, 2023 16:27:40 GMT -5
Ok dude this is like the third thread you've made for AEW hypothetical booking and each one of them has some sort of spite thrown at Ring of Honor and how much you don't want any of the champions or wrestlers themselves to appear on the AEW brand, and I just have to ask... why? Quite a few of these talents are AEW contracted talents appearing on ROH shows as well, they're not just gonna disappear completely nor should they. Swerve jus got a better faction because of ROH by pairing with the The Embassy because Parker and Trench weren't working just as one example, but AEW's already cut down pretty hard on the ROH crossovers outside of some exceptions. Not wanting some of the insanely talented wrestlers to appear on either show is also kind of crazy to me? Like Shibata is the Pure champion right now, seeing a Pure title match on AEW with Shibata would be awesome imo I just don't understand your sudden obsession with total and complete brand segregation, that's not going to help Ring of Honor or AEW in the ways you presumably think it will. Please stop telling people they are wrong to voice their opinions / preferences. This isn’t close to the first time you’ve done this either. If you don’t agree - fine, but you don’t need to write a thesis paper on why someone’s preferences are wrong. Worst yet, you label it « an obsession » yet you’re constantly going after posters for expressing their OPINIONS or PREFERENCES. I asked him why because I didn't understand where he was coming from and provided why I thought having ROH wrestlers appear on AEW was a positive and why I thought total separation wouldn't help, and given he has given this take multiple times, I finally decided to ask him why he's so adamant about it. He provided me with a clear and concise answer in a civil manner. I didn't say he was wrong, I said I didn't see how it would help, multiple times in my statement, you can read it yourself as can everyone, I say it's my own personal stance. You're constantly trying to label me something I'm not and I'm sick of it tbh. I can respond to someone with however long of a "thesis paper" I like by the way. Nowhere in my statement did I say he couldn't think this way, you keep twisting my words because I don't agree with someone's stance. I haven't said one bad thing to Ceilingfan and that's going to continue, I just asked him to elaborate on a point, and he did. I disagreed with it and didn't think it'd help the brands, doesn't mean I'm right either. I ain't going after anyone, if anything, you go after me, constantly, telling me to stop doing something, because the way I post doesn't vibe with you and that's been made plenty clear. I'm leaving it there, because I don't want this to turn into another back and forth fight, so once again I thank Ceilingfan for his response, meant a lot because I did genuinely want to know.
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Post by Kay Faban on Apr 29, 2023 17:01:03 GMT -5
Collision is a good opportunity for new characters.
I think they should have a heel called the Counter.
He counters all your favorite wrestles moves, but also is constantly counting how many times you do something and complains about it but gets confused when you ask him about it.
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Post by Doo Doo Dickhead on Apr 29, 2023 19:34:35 GMT -5
Since this seems to be actually happening who even goes over with Punk aside from Jericho and his flunkies? FTR. House Of Black. Wardlow. ThunderRosa. Hobbs. Danhausen. The Firm. Hook. Abadon. Miro. And at least 20 others. We're going to have to add "going to Collision" to the list of 1000 ideas Miro's turned down.
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Post by Fade on Apr 29, 2023 22:27:33 GMT -5
Agreed on separating ROH. Separate the glut of titles. l think you put a world title on each show. I’d have Bitch Tony just give it Punk on the first Collision to really drum up heat. People already think Tony just gives Punk whatever he wants, play on that real life stuff. Gd I hate how entertaining that sounds. Specially with how Tony’s already and always awkward af. Yeah, I absolutely would not be doing this roster split nonsense, soft or hard ( - _ -), but if I had to.. - hard split baby. Different everything from commentary booth, to personnel and wrasslers. - You have to introduce a second world title, and who knows what tf you call it. TBS and TNT to the respective shows on said channels. Womens to collision, international to Dynamite, trios to collision, tag to dynamite. - And the most *important* thing, is maybe after doing a show or two, Tony Phil-Enthusiast Khan backs the f*** out of Collision and give it to someone else. In charge of it, creative etc. obviously they have to answer to Tony, but again, hard split for the shows in terms of creative. He will never in a million years do that, but that’s what I’d do.
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Post by Kay Faban on Apr 29, 2023 23:33:06 GMT -5
Agreed on separating ROH. Separate the glut of titles. l think you put a world title on each show. I’d have Bitch Tony just give it Punk on the first Collision to really drum up heat. People already think Tony just gives Punk whatever he wants, play on that real life stuff. Gd I hate how entertaining that sounds. Specially with how Tony’s already and always awkward af. Yeah, I absolutely would not be doing this roster split nonsense, soft or hard ( - _ -), but if I had to.. - hard split baby. Different everything from commentary booth, to personnel and wrasslers. - You have to introduce a second world title, and who knows what tf you call it. TBS and TNT to the respective shows on said channels. Womens to collision, international to Dynamite, trios to collision, tag to dynamite. - And the most *important* thing, is maybe after doing a show or two, Tony Phil-Enthusiast Khan backs the f*** out of Collision and give it to someone else. In charge of it, creative etc. obviously they have to answer to Tony, but again, hard split for the shows in terms of creative. He will never in a million years do that, but that’s what I’d do. J-E-DOUBLE F
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Post by Fade on Apr 29, 2023 23:44:03 GMT -5
Gd I hate how entertaining that sounds. Specially with how Tony’s already and always awkward af. Yeah, I absolutely would not be doing this roster split nonsense, soft or hard ( - _ -), but if I had to.. - hard split baby. Different everything from commentary booth, to personnel and wrasslers. - You have to introduce a second world title, and who knows what tf you call it. TBS and TNT to the respective shows on said channels. Womens to collision, international to Dynamite, trios to collision, tag to dynamite. - And the most *important* thing, is maybe after doing a show or two, Tony Phil-Enthusiast Khan backs the f*** out of Collision and give it to someone else. In charge of it, creative etc. obviously they have to answer to Tony, but again, hard split for the shows in terms of creative. He will never in a million years do that, but that’s what I’d do. J-E-DOUBLE F No GOD No! My vote is to hire Freddie Prinze Jr; time for put up or shut up for homey. Pair him with a more traditional insider booker/person, boom. I don’t know if I’m serious or not.
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Post by pinja on Apr 30, 2023 0:08:52 GMT -5
Collision gets Tony Khan, Dynamite gets Shakma with a mechanical typewriter.
Despite me never not thinking that a brand split based on professional and private dissonances would be the dumbest reason ever, I too would have everyone appear everywhere (excluding ROH). So no real split, but feuds lock people up.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Apr 30, 2023 7:23:58 GMT -5
Ok, so the whole roster gathers on the stage and Tony’s in the ring with a big Wile E. Coyote-style TNT plunger. He sets it off, there’s a big explosion on the stage and when all the smoke clears, half the wrestlers have disappeared. The remaining ones are the Dynamite roster.
The first episode of Collision opens with another explosion and the wrestlers that disappeared on Dynamite are wildly bumping into each on the stage until they finally regain their own momentum following the explosion. They are the Collision roster.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Apr 30, 2023 7:28:39 GMT -5
Multiverse shenanigans where an entire tour bus of AEW talent gets sucked into a wormhole and is broadcasting their wrestling show from another galaxy to make ends meet in a strange universe much like their own.
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Post by CeilingFan on Apr 30, 2023 8:18:51 GMT -5
No GOD No! My vote is to hire Freddie Prinze Jr; time for put up or shut up for homey. Pair him with a more traditional insider booker/person, boom. I don’t know if I’m serious or not. Supposedly, Freddie Prinze Jr will be starting a promotion called UWE (Universal Wrestling Entertainment).
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Post by firsttimelongtime on Apr 30, 2023 11:40:22 GMT -5
I think Jarrett definitely should help book. He’s finally too old to book himself, so it could work. All his programs in AEW have been a blast so far.
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Post by ERON on Apr 30, 2023 13:03:33 GMT -5
I would prefer a soft split. Some guys only show up on Dynamite and others only on Collision, but don't call attention to it, and anyone can theoretically appear on either show.
But if we must have a hard split, make the two brands different in other aspects besides just different rosters. Maybe make one more "real sports" and the other more "sports entertainment." Make one feel like you're watching a ball game and the other feel like you're watching a reality show. Maybe even allow vaguely supernatural, "Broken" type stuff on one while keeping the other firmly grounded in reality.
Either way, treat both shows equally - no "A show" and "B show." And definitely don't do any "Team Dynamite vs. Team Collision" or "Are you a Dynamite fan or a Collision fan?" nonsense. Both shows should be equally "must see."
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Post by CeilingFan on Apr 30, 2023 18:54:44 GMT -5
treat both shows equally - no "A show" and "B show." And definitely don't do any "Team Dynamite vs. Team Collision" or "Are you a Dynamite fan or a Collision fan?" nonsense. Both shows should be equally "must see." I agree 100%
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Post by sfvega on Apr 30, 2023 19:18:40 GMT -5
I would prefer a soft split. Some guys only show up on Dynamite and others only on Collision, but don't call attention to it, and anyone can theoretically appear on either show. But if we must have a hard split, make the two brands different in other aspects besides just different rosters. Maybe make one more "real sports" and the other more "sports entertainment." Make one feel like you're watching a ball game and the other feel like you're watching a reality show. Maybe even allow vaguely supernatural, "Broken" type stuff on one while keeping the other firmly grounded in reality. Either way, treat both shows equally - no "A show" and "B show." And definitely don't do any "Team Dynamite vs. Team Collision" or "Are you a Dynamite fan or a Collision fan?" nonsense. Both shows should be equally "must see." This absolutely. I would rather no talent be exclusive to one show or the other, but especially don't fall into the all-too-common trap of treating one like a B-show. Smackdown when it launched and the last couple years has shown you can have a 2nd show that is as good or better, and that people will tune in. There's NOTHING you can do to make me care less than treat one show like basically an overflow for ideas that you thought weren't good enough for Dynamite. Shit, I think I have about 20 unwatched of the last 25 Rampages in the DVR as exhibit A. It's tougher to get people back than it is to keep people watching.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Apr 30, 2023 22:12:40 GMT -5
I think Jarrett definitely should help book. He’s finally too old to book himself, so it could work. All his programs in AEW have been a blast so far. Well shit, now we know who the first champion of the new show is gonna be
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Post by markymark on May 1, 2023 17:06:17 GMT -5
So Nash said on his podcast that he heard AEW will indeed do a Brand Split.
Sonny Gutierrez said on WON board about someone being hired to help TK in creative(Will Washington?)
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Post by MolotovMocktail on May 2, 2023 14:26:40 GMT -5
Dynamite and Rampage are AEW, Collision (and maybe Dark) is ROH.
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Post by CeilingFan on May 3, 2023 6:46:02 GMT -5
Roderick Strong needs to be on Dynamite!
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