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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on May 4, 2023 13:03:30 GMT -5
Apparently, need to see more sources before it can be fully said, the other Hollywood based unions (SAGAFTRA, IATSE, DGA etc) were at the last WGA meeting. If that’s the case, and with a lot of those deals expiring in June…ho boy… If SAG is joining with the Writers Guild, the studios be f***ed. Everything in production would be shut down, doesn't matter if they've got scripts.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2023 13:30:52 GMT -5
Wonder what Matt Stone and Trey Parker thinks of this go around of writer strikes.
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Post by thechase on May 4, 2023 13:39:49 GMT -5
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Post by chazraps on May 4, 2023 14:09:35 GMT -5
Wonder what Matt Stone and Trey Parker thinks of this go around of writer strikes. That's one of the absolute worst aging South Park episodes. They really manbearpigged that one.
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Post by wildojinx on May 4, 2023 16:32:48 GMT -5
We could see Star Trek Picard on CBS and some additional college football games OTA on friday nights even if its at the expense of high school football Wonder if CBS would be willing to show the Beavis and Butthead revival.
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Post by Renslayer on May 4, 2023 16:34:00 GMT -5
Wonder what Matt Stone and Trey Parker thinks of this go around of writer strikes. That's one of the absolute worst aging South Park episodes. They really manbearpigged that one. What did they do back in the last strike?
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on May 4, 2023 17:21:35 GMT -5
That's one of the absolute worst aging South Park episodes. They really manbearpigged that one. What did they do back in the last strike? Did an episode about Canada going on strike where basically the entire joke and purpose of it was, "No one's proven there's any money to be made on the Internet anyway so writers are stupid whiners to want residuals from it and don't actually contribute anything anyway."
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Post by burdette25159 on May 4, 2023 17:53:21 GMT -5
We could see Star Trek Picard on CBS and some additional college football games OTA on friday nights even if its at the expense of high school football Wonder if CBS would be willing to show the Beavis and Butthead revival. It'll probably be edited for broadcast television but not to the point of what was done to the early eps of the OG series after the Fire incident
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Post by Glitch on May 4, 2023 22:32:48 GMT -5
I still laugh at people who think chatgpt is gonna replace writers. It's not a self aware robot that wants to write. It's a tool that pastes different things together.
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Post by ace on May 4, 2023 22:50:39 GMT -5
I still laugh at people who think chatgpt is gonna replace writers. It's not a self aware robot that wants to write. It's a tool that pastes different things together. It’s not exactly to replace it…but I will say this…. Unless certain things are agreed to in order to future proof the industry against AI usage…the most useful skill in Hollywood will become someone who can quickly and effectively rewrite AI to sound more human. Which will be done at a much lower price than writing from scratch. When people talk about replacing writers with AI what they’re talking about is replacing creators with glorified copy editors.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 4, 2023 23:32:56 GMT -5
It’s not exactly to replace it…but I will say this…. Unless certain things are agreed to in order to future proof the industry against AI usage…the most useful skill in Hollywood will become someone who can quickly and effectively rewrite AI to sound more human. Which will be done at a much lower price than writing from scratch. When people talk about replacing writers with AI what they’re talking about is replacing creators with glorified copy editors. Basically this. I'd be shocked if it's not something that is already happening.
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Post by thechase on May 5, 2023 0:16:28 GMT -5
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on May 5, 2023 1:51:09 GMT -5
I still laugh at people who think chatgpt is gonna replace writers. It's not a self aware robot that wants to write. It's a tool that pastes different things together. Really though? You think an AI tool that can be used virtually for free isn't going to be used to replace human beings who want to be paid a living wage? We have this thing called capitalism, where those in charge of companies value profit ahead of quality and the lives of those who work for them. The people running Hollywood will absolutely replace as many creative jobs as they can, and while it won't replace all writers, it sure as heck will be used to replace the bulk of them if the writers unions don't do something, with the remaining being used to try and humanise AI output. Only two things will stop this, Copyright/Patent/Trademark law not allowing AI creations to be claimed and existing unions not letting their members be reduced to low paid script doctors. The law will be changed to benefit corporations, so that just leaves the WGA and allies, and they won't go down without a fight.
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Post by burdette25159 on May 5, 2023 2:06:31 GMT -5
Apparently, need to see more sources before it can be fully said, the other Hollywood based unions (SAGAFTRA, IATSE, DGA etc) were at the last WGA meeting. If that’s the case, and with a lot of those deals expiring in June…ho boy… If SAG is joining with the Writers Guild, the studios be f***ed. Everything in production would be shut down, doesn't matter if they've got scripts. Studios may end up having to resort to acquiring forign films and dubbing them into english with non union voice actors
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Post by thechase on May 5, 2023 4:47:44 GMT -5
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Post by willywonka666 on May 5, 2023 6:35:13 GMT -5
So a friend and I have been talking about this and he found that there are over 600 scripted shows. Now I'm just someone on the outside, but this is probably a record and there are more choices, but is every single one needed?
What if they cut a big hunk of the shows? It would suck and people would lose their jobs, but surviving writers of surviving shows that offered quality over quantity could conceivably get paid more.
I don't think the writers would want to agree to that, but again-600 shows?
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on May 5, 2023 7:04:40 GMT -5
So a friend and I have been talking about this and he found that there are over 600 scripted shows. Now I'm just someone on the outside, but this is probably a record and there are more choices, but is every single one needed? What if they cut a big hunk of the shows? It would suck and people would lose their jobs, but surviving writers of surviving shows that offered quality over quantity could conceivably get paid more. I don't think the writers would want to agree to that, but again-600 shows? Don't kid yourself, if they made fewer shows, they wouldn't pay the people making them more, they'd drive wages down due to more competition for the few jobs and they certainly wouldn't hire the most creative and best, they'd hire people who work fast, cheap and won't rock the boat. There would be fewer innovative shows as less risks would be taken, and a lot if the budget would be taken up by creatively stagnant cultural monoliths with safe, steady ratings late night comedies and the Simpsons, not the next Breaking bad. 600 scripted shows isn't a huge number considering the amount of airtime available, and cutting that would make things worse for everyone, writers, production staff, actors and audiences alike. You don't get more innovation by cutting back on opportunity, you get low pay, monopoly and stagnation.
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Post by thechase on May 5, 2023 7:33:10 GMT -5
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Post by eJm on May 5, 2023 8:05:05 GMT -5
Teamsters might be one of the biggest factor going into this. Not only have they shown support for the WGA by being one of the parties going into the meeting with the other unions, one of their agreed to rules is that if there are at least two people picketing outside of a place they're driving to, they can turn around and drive back with their cargo and suffer nothing from it.
So in theory, if this strike continues and more productions try to start that need equipment shipped in, planned shoots could shut down.
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Post by Milkman Norm on May 5, 2023 9:56:37 GMT -5
Apparently, need to see more sources before it can be fully said, the other Hollywood based unions (SAGAFTRA, IATSE, DGA etc) were at the last WGA meeting. If that’s the case, and with a lot of those deals expiring in June…ho boy… If SAG is joining with the Writers Guild, the studios be f***ed. Everything in production would be shut down, doesn't matter if they've got scripts. I learned from what I'm assuming was the same Twitter thread that the studios created The AMPAS (The Academy) because workers were asking for wages & healthcare and the studios were like "How about a party & little golden statues instead?"
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