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Post by pinja on May 9, 2023 8:32:23 GMT -5
Owens is a Disciple of the Disco Inferno. Learning from the most gifted sports entertainers. I want him to do the Mango Spike.
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Post by clc on May 9, 2023 8:41:21 GMT -5
I too find something off about KO. Now, as a Zeke-freak I will eternally hate him for putting my man Ezekiel in a coma! But even before that, I was never able to take him seriously as a "tough guy" fighter character. Something about his face, his gear, the way he talks, I could never put my finger on it,...maybe the way that all comes together. I always liked him as more of a comedy character. He just sort of has the feel of your buddy rather than a world class prize fighter.
On the finisher. I always thought that the person doing the finisher is what makes it. Sure some moves have more impact than others, but the reason why a finisher is special for a specific wrestler is they have trained and perfected the move. Example, Sting puts you in the sharpshooter, it's game over because he has trained and perfected the move. The Rock puts you in the sharpshooter, maybe it hurts but since he did not take the time to master it, you could probably break out.
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May 9, 2023 8:48:02 GMT -5
Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on May 9, 2023 8:48:02 GMT -5
I'm fine with him doing the Stunner in principle.
I just don't feel like it ever looks that great.
If not the pop-up powerbomb or package piledriver, I feel like he could do well with a strike finish. Bull Hammer maybe? KO having a knockout blow just makes sense.
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May 9, 2023 11:02:43 GMT -5
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Post by defectiveepitaph on May 9, 2023 11:02:43 GMT -5
I have always hated him doing the Stunner I know all moves are plagiarised but that is like the single most iconic move in wrestling I have no issue with him using the stunner, I just wish it actually looked good. Willie Mack’s stunner looks significantly better, imo.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 9, 2023 11:08:35 GMT -5
I'd love a kayfabe explanation as to why every move that works isn't used by everybody else. Can you imagine having 'your finisher that no one else can use' in a real combat sport? A few people including Jake Roberts on the DDT has usually just been "they don't do it right", or just "yeah other people use it but i've mastered it" as the reasoning behind it.
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May 10, 2023 14:45:14 GMT -5
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Post by Squirrel Master on May 10, 2023 14:45:14 GMT -5
I too find something off about KO. I was never able to take him seriously as a "tough guy" fighter character. Something about his face, his gear, the way he talks, I could never put my finger on it,...maybe the way that all comes together. I always liked him as more of a comedy character. He just sort of has the feel of your buddy rather than a world class prize fighter. IMO Kevin should study film of Harley Race and as a tribute of sorts, adopt all of Race’s mannerisms in demeanor, promo skills and move set, thus becoming the quintessential tough guy. I mean, I could see it.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Weather Machine on May 10, 2023 16:12:33 GMT -5
I hated KO doing The Stunner for a hot minute but it's grown on me a lot, mainly because of the actual real association with Steve Austin now after they actually had a match but just in general he's been doing it so long now that it's whatever to me.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on May 11, 2023 1:12:40 GMT -5
I'm all for Owens using it primarily as a means of breaking the association that nobody else can use the stunner as their finisher because it's "Austin's". It's not a jersey number; retiring big moves because a famous top star did them when he's been retired for twenty years is dumb.
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May 11, 2023 5:11:14 GMT -5
Post by Raskovnik on May 11, 2023 5:11:14 GMT -5
I liked the Pop-Up Powerbomb because it always used to sound like Cole was saying "The Papa Powerbomb, for his family!"
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on May 11, 2023 9:12:39 GMT -5
If Stone Cold is cool with it, then let it be I remember Stone Cold absolutely gushing over KO when he interviewed him for his podcast years ago so not surprising that he thought highly enough of dude to "gift" him the legendary finisher. The Stunner/Ace Crusher is a GOAT finisher, tbh. Pretty much checks every box if you have to be a top WWE guy (can be hit on anybody, big or small, has a quick set-up but can be teased to hell and back for full crowd effect, and of course, the various reversals that DDP and Randy Orton made popular).
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May 12, 2023 1:46:33 GMT -5
Post by Banjo Is Broken on May 12, 2023 1:46:33 GMT -5
I remember when Cody's wife was a ring announcer for a while and she always used to say Kevin's name really over the top. KEVINOOOOOOOOOOWENS!!
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May 12, 2023 12:54:37 GMT -5
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Post by ghost on May 12, 2023 12:54:37 GMT -5
Yeah it’s not the fact that he uses the Stunner, it’s the fact that it looks like crap most of the time. Look at Orton. He took one of the most popular finishers of the MNW and he made it look so good that it’s now completely identified with him instead of DDP. Of course KO could do a perfect Stunner and people would still associate it with Austin, but the fact that it looks like trash most of time just accentuates that it’s a rip off.
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May 12, 2023 13:07:46 GMT -5
Post by pinja on May 12, 2023 13:07:46 GMT -5
It's Bertus with the og Stooner.
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